[Csnd] crashing on start

[Csnd] crashing on start

Date	2011-10-06 15:39
From	Rick
Subject	[Csnd] crashing on start
	Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython site any ideas? PPC osX 10.5.8 python 2.6 cheers, Rick On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: > Hi Carlos, > > From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait > for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. > However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, > then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it > may be the case that you are calling table length right after the > message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the > processing of that event. > > One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so > that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue > also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just > return. So something like: > > csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); > csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > .. then do table stuff .. > > I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but > worth a shot. > > steven > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with FlushMessageQueue. >> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending on >> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop until >> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >> >> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >> >> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >> actually received by the performance thread. >> >> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >> don't, just want to confirm it. >> >> Best regards >> -- >> Carlos >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:05
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Open the terminal and type /usr/local/bin/csound and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell you whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. Victor On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets > no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython > site > > any ideas? > > PPC > osX 10.5.8 > python 2.6 > > cheers, > > Rick > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >> Hi Carlos, >> >> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >> processing of that event. >> >> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >> return. So something like: >> >> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> .. then do table stuff .. >> >> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >> worth a shot. >> >> steven >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita > > wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>> FlushMessageQueue. >>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>> on >>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>> until >>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>> >>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>> >>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>> actually received by the performance thread. >>> >>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>> >>> Best regards >>> -- >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? >> group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:11
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Thanks, i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again now, just in case. I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as well, but that hasn't worked out either Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound 0dBFS level = 32768.0 Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 libsndfile-1.0.21 Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile Legal flags are: --help print long usage options -U unam run utility program unam -C use Cscore processing of scorefile -I I-time only orch run -n no sound onto disk -i fnam sound input filename -o fnam sound output filename -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer -A create an AIFF format output soundfile -W create a WAV format output soundfile -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile -h no header on output soundfile -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples -u ulaw sound samples -s short_int sound samples -l long_int sound samples -f float sound samples -3 24bit sound samples -r N orchestra srate override -k N orchestra krate override -K Do not generate PEAK chunks -v verbose orch translation -m N tty message level. Sum of: 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) 128=print benchmark information -d suppress all displays -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device 'dnam' -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time -Q dnam select MIDI output device -z List opcodes in this version -Z Dither output flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Open the terminal and type > > /usr/local/bin/csound > > and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell you > whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just > reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. > > Victor > > On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > >> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >> site >> >> any ideas? >> >> PPC >> osX 10.5.8 >> python 2.6 >> >> cheers, >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>> >>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>> processing of that event. >>> >>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>> return. So something like: >>> >>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> .. then do table stuff .. >>> >>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>> worth a shot. >>> >>> steven >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with FlushMessageQueue. >>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending on >>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop until >>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>> >>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>> >>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> -- >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound" > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:22
From	jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	That looks like the output I would expect ==John ff > Thanks, > > i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again > now, just in case. > I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as > well, but that hasn't worked out either > > Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > > PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > libsndfile-1.0.21 > Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > Legal flags are: > --help print long usage options > -U unam run utility program unam > -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > -I I-time only orch run > -n no sound onto disk > -i fnam sound input filename > -o fnam sound output filename > -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer > -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > -W create a WAV format output soundfile > -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > -h no header on output soundfile > -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > -u ulaw sound samples > -s short_int sound samples > -l long_int sound samples > -f float sound samples > -3 24bit sound samples > -r N orchestra srate override > -k N orchestra krate override > -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > -v verbose orch translation > -m N tty message level. Sum of: > 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > 128=print benchmark information > -d suppress all displays > -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' > -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N > -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device 'dnam' > -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) > -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write > -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done > -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > -Q dnam select MIDI output device > -z List opcodes in this version > -Z Dither output > flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Open the terminal and type >> >> /usr/local/bin/csound >> >> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >> you >> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >> >> Victor >> >> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >> >>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>> site >>> >>> any ideas? >>> >>> PPC >>> osX 10.5.8 >>> python 2.6 >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Carlos, >>>> >>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>> processing of that event. >>>> >>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>> return. So something like: >>>> >>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>> >>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>> worth a shot. >>>> >>>> steven >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with FlushMessageQueue. >>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending on >>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>> until >>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>> >>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>> >>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> -- >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound" > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:23
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Ok, csound seems to be fine. It's doing what it's expected of it. So I think it's not a problem with it. Do you have qutecsound? Does it work? Victor On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:11, Rick wrote: > Thanks, > > i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again > now, just in case. > I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as > well, but that hasn't worked out either > > Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > > PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > libsndfile-1.0.21 > Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > Legal flags are: > --help print long usage options > -U unam run utility program unam > -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > -I I-time only orch run > -n no sound onto disk > -i fnam sound input filename > -o fnam sound output filename > -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer > -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > -W create a WAV format output soundfile > -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > -h no header on output soundfile > -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > -u ulaw sound samples > -s short_int sound samples > -l long_int sound samples > -f float sound samples > -3 24bit sound samples > -r N orchestra srate override > -k N orchestra krate override > -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > -v verbose orch translation > -m N tty message level. Sum of: > 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > 128=print benchmark information > -d suppress all displays > -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' > -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N > -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device 'dnam' > -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) > -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write > -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done > -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > -Q dnam select MIDI output device > -z List opcodes in this version > -Z Dither output > flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Open the terminal and type >> >> /usr/local/bin/csound >> >> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will >> tell you >> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >> >> Victor >> >> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >> >>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the >>> MacPython >>> site >>> >>> any ideas? >>> >>> PPC >>> osX 10.5.8 >>> python 2.6 >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Carlos, >>>> >>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will >>>> wait >>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message >>>> handling, >>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. >>>> So it >>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to >>>> the >>>> processing of that event. >>>> >>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue >>>> twice, so >>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but >>>> FlushMessageQueue >>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will >>>> just >>>> return. So something like: >>>> >>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>> >>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, >>>> but >>>> worth a shot. >>>> >>>> steven >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order >>>>> to >>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I >>>>> call >>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 >>>>> depending on >>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>> until >>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>> >>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>> >>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) >>>>> are >>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> -- >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? >>> group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:32
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > That looks like the output I would expect > > ==John ff > >> Thanks, >> >> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >> now, just in case. >> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >> well, but that hasn't worked out either >> >> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >> >> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >> libsndfile-1.0.21 >> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >> Legal flags are: >> --help print long usage options >> -U unam run utility program unam >> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >> -I I-time only orch run >> -n no sound onto disk >> -i fnam sound input filename >> -o fnam sound output filename >> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >> -h no header on output soundfile >> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >> -u ulaw sound samples >> -s short_int sound samples >> -l long_int sound samples >> -f float sound samples >> -3 24bit sound samples >> -r N orchestra srate override >> -k N orchestra krate override >> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >> -v verbose orch translation >> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >> 128=print benchmark information >> -d suppress all displays >> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device 'dnam' >> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >> -z List opcodes in this version >> -Z Dither output >> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> wrote: >>> Open the terminal and type >>> >>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> >>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>> you >>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>> site >>>> >>>> any ideas? >>>> >>>> PPC >>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>> python 2.6 >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>> processing of that event. >>>>> >>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>> return. So something like: >>>>> >>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>> worth a shot. >>>>> >>>>> steven >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending on >>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>> until >>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>> >>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>> >>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >> >> >> > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 16:45
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. > > Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user > error. > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >> That looks like the output I would expect >> >> ==John ff >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>> now, just in case. >>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it >>> as >>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>> >>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>> >>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>> Legal flags are: >>> --help print long usage options >>> -U unam run utility program unam >>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>> -I I-time only orch run >>> -n no sound onto disk >>> -i fnam sound input filename >>> -o fnam sound output filename >>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>> -h no header on output soundfile >>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>> -u ulaw sound samples >>> -s short_int sound samples >>> -l long_int sound samples >>> -f float sound samples >>> -3 24bit sound samples >>> -r N orchestra srate override >>> -k N orchestra krate override >>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>> -v verbose orch translation >>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>> 128=print benchmark information >>> -d suppress all displays >>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>> 'dnam' >>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>> -z List opcodes in this version >>> -Z Dither output >>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> wrote: >>>> Open the terminal and type >>>> >>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>> >>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will >>>> tell >>>> you >>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, >>>> just >>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>> >>>> Victor >>>> >>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools >>>>> gets >>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the >>>>> MacPython >>>>> site >>>>> >>>>> any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> PPC >>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>> python 2.6 >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will >>>>>> wait >>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message >>>>>> handling, >>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. >>>>>> So it >>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten >>>>>> to the >>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue >>>>>> twice, so >>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but >>>>>> FlushMessageQueue >>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will >>>>>> just >>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table >>>>>> message, but >>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>> >>>>>> steven >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in >>>>>>> order to >>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say >>>>>>> I call >>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 >>>>>>> depending on >>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>> until >>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, >>>>>>> etc.) are >>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>> >>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>> Senior Lecturer >>>> Dept. of Music >>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? >> group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound" > Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 17:02
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. Thanks r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? > > On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > >> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >> >> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>> >>> That looks like the output I would expect >>> >>> ==John ff >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>> now, just in case. >>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>> >>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>> >>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>> Legal flags are: >>>> --help print long usage options >>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>> -f float sound samples >>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>> -d suppress all displays >>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>> 'dnam' >>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>> -Z Dither output >>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>> >>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>> >>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>> you >>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>> site >>>>>> >>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> PPC >>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> steven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound" > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 17:21
From	Rory Walsh
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that years ago! On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: > I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I > have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it > isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. > > Thanks > > r > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >> >> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >> >>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>> >>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>> >>>> ==John ff >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>>> now, just in case. >>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>> >>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>> >>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>>> 'dnam' >>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>>> >>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>>> >>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>>> you >>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Victor >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>>> site >>>>>>> >>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PPC >>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 17:23
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	good. be right back then On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: > No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that years ago! > > On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I >> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it >> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >> >> Thanks >> >> r >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> wrote: >>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>> >>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>> >>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>> >>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>>> >>>>> ==John ff >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>>>> now, just in case. >>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>>> >>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>>>> 'dnam' >>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PPC >>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 19:25
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to so many dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless? and Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to be my worst dead end luck. really appreciate the help, btw. r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick wrote: > good. be right back then > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: >> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that years ago! >> >> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I >>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it >>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> r >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> wrote: >>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>>> >>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>>> >>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>>> >>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>>>> >>>>>> ==John ff >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>>>>> now, just in case. >>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>>>>> 'dnam' >>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PPC >>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>> >>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>> Senior Lecturer >>>> Dept. of Music >>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 19:36
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Just to say that fftools expects Csound double. So can you also try typing this in the terminal: csound64 P On 6 October 2011 16:23, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Ok, csound seems to be fine. It's doing what it's expected of it. So I think > it's not a problem with it. > Do you have qutecsound? Does it work? > > > Victor > On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:11, Rick wrote: > >> Thanks, >> >> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >> now, just in case. >> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >> well, but that hasn't worked out either >> >> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >> >> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >> libsndfile-1.0.21 >> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >> Legal flags are: >> --help print long usage options >> -U unam run utility program unam >> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >> -I I-time only orch run >> -n no sound onto disk >> -i fnam sound input filename >> -o fnam sound output filename >> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >> -h no header on output soundfile >> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >> -u ulaw sound samples >> -s short_int sound samples >> -l long_int sound samples >> -f float sound samples >> -3 24bit sound samples >> -r N orchestra srate override >> -k N orchestra krate override >> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >> -v verbose orch translation >> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >> 128=print benchmark information >> -d suppress all displays >> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device 'dnam' >> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >> -z List opcodes in this version >> -Z Dither output >> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> wrote: >>> >>> Open the terminal and type >>> >>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> >>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell you >>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>> site >>>> >>>> any ideas? >>>> >>>> PPC >>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>> python 2.6 >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>> processing of that event. >>>>> >>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>> return. So something like: >>>>> >>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>> worth a shot. >>>>> >>>>> steven >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending on >>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop until >>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>> >>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>> >>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>> csound" >>>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>> csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >> csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe > csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 19:38
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 19:43
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not work on PPC. Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. P On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: > Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to so many > dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer > is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless? > > and > > Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to be my > worst dead end luck. > > really appreciate the help, btw. > > r > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick wrote: >> good. be right back then >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: >>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that years ago! >>> >>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I >>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it >>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> r >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>> wrote: >>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>>>> >>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==John ff >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PPC >>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>> csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To 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Date	2011-10-06 19:51
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 19:52
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) goes to LinkedIn. The whole thing is a mess. Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked fun though. Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi wrote: > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not work on PPC. > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. > > P > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to so many >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer >> is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless? >> >> and >> >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to be my >> worst dead end luck. >> >> really appreciate the help, btw. >> >> r >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick wrote: >>> good. be right back then >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that years ago! >>>> >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual etc. When I >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to know it >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> r >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily be user error. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll do it again >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia would fix it as >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer >>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at tempo N >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events from device >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. This will tell >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound installation. If so, just >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related anymore. FFTools gets >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go to the MacPython >>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it has waiting. >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do message handling, >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length right after the >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps has gotten to the >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but FlushMessageQueue >>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on the message stack or it will just >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank table message, but >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance thread in order to >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API call? Say I call >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to get -1 depending >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter a wait loop >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score event, etc.) are >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics imply that f >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or not. I guess they >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>>> csound" >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>>>>> Dept. of Music >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe >>>>>> csound" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >> >> > > > Send bugs reports to 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Date	2011-10-06 19:54
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 19:56
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 20:00
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	yeah, that version crashes on start up. On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, wrote: > It takes me to: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm > Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > >> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on >> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rick >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the >> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >> > goes to >> > LinkedIn. >> > >> > The whole thing is a mess. >> > >> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >> > fun though. >> > >> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal >> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses >> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. >> > >> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links >> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >> > wrote: >> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >> > > >> > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ >> > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not >> > work on PPC. >> > > >> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >> > > >> > > P >> > > >> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to >> > so many >> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >> > pointless?>> >> > >> and >> > >> >> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >> > to be my >> > >> worst dead end luck. >> > >> >> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >> > >> >> > >> r >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >> > >>> >> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >> > wrote: >> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >> > years ago! >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >> > etc. When I >> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to >> > know it >> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Thanks >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> r >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >> > easily be user error. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >> > I'll do it again >> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >> > would fix it as >> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O >> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >> > file 'fnam' >> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >> > at tempo N >> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >> > from device >> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >> > soundfile write >> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >> > is done >> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >> > screen. This will tell >> > >>>>>>>>>> you >> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >> > installation. If so, just >> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >> > anymore. FFTools gets >> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to >> > go to the MacPython >> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >> > wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it >> > has waiting. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do >> > message handling, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >> > right after the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >> > has gotten to the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but >> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on >> > the message stack or it will just >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >> > table message, but >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >> > thread in order to >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >> > API call? Say I call >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to >> > get -1 depending >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >> > enter a wait loop >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >> > score event, etc.) are >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >> > semantics imply that f >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or >> > not. I guess they >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> > with body >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> > with body >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >> > >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> > with body >> > >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> > >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> > >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >> > >>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music >> > >>>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> > >>>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> > with body >> > >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> > >>>>>>>>>> csound" >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >> > >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >> > body "unsubscribe >> > >>>>>>>>> csound" >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> 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Date	2011-10-06 20:01
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	oops. I take that back hold on On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: > yeah, that version crashes on start up. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, wrote: >> It takes me to: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rick >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>> > goes to >>> > LinkedIn. >>> > >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>> > >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>> > fun though. >>> > >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal >>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. >>> > >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>> > wrote: >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>> > > >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ >>> > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not >>> > work on PPC. >>> > > >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>> > > >>> > > P >>> > > >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to >>> > so many >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>> > pointless?>> >>> > >> and >>> > >> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>> > to be my >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>> > >> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>> > >> >>> > >> r >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>> > years ago! >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>> > etc. When I >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to >>> > know it >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> r >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>> > easily be user error. >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>> > I'll do it again >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>> > would fix it as >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>> > file 'fnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>> > at tempo N >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>> > from device >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>> > soundfile write >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>> > is done >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>> > screen. This will tell >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>> > installation. If so, just >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to >>> > go to the MacPython >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it >>> > has waiting. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do >>> > message handling, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>> > right after the >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>> > has gotten to the >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on >>> > the message stack or it will just >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>> > table message, but >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>> > thread in order to >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>> > API call? Say I call >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to >>> > get -1 depending >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>> > enter a wait loop >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>> > score event, etc.) are >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>> > semantics imply that f >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or >>> > not. I guess they >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music >>> > >>>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> > >>>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -- >>> > >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> > >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>> > body "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>> > body "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> -- >>> > >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> > >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>> > body "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>>> Senior Lecturer >>> > >>>>>> Dept. of Music >>> > >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> > >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> > >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>> > body "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> -- >>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> > >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features 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>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > > >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > Dr. Richard Nance >>> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> > >>> > >>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>> > >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 20:02
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: > yeah, that version crashes on start up. > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, wrote: >> It takes me to: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rick >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>> > goes to >>> > LinkedIn. >>> > >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>> > >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>> > fun though. >>> > >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal >>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. >>> > >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>> > wrote: >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>> > > >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ >>> > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not >>> > work on PPC. >>> > > >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>> > > >>> > > P >>> > > >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to >>> > so many >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>> > pointless?>> >>> > >> and >>> > >> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>> > to be my >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>> > >> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>> > >> >>> > >> r >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>> > years ago! >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>> > etc. When I >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to >>> > know it >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> r >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>> > easily be user error. >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>> > I'll do it again >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>> > would fix it as >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>> > file 'fnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>> > at tempo N >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>> > from device >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>> > soundfile write >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>> > is done >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>> > screen. This will tell >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>> > installation. If so, just >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to >>> > go to the MacPython >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>> > wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it >>> > has waiting. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do >>> > message handling, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>> > right after the >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>> > has gotten to the >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on >>> > the message stack or it will just >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>> > table message, but >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>> > thread in order to >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>> > API call? Say I call >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to >>> > get -1 depending >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>> > enter a wait loop >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>> > score event, etc.) are >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>> > semantics imply that f >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or >>> > not. I guess they >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> > with body >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 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Date	2011-10-06 20:04
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 20:07
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route audio? Core and RME aren't getting it r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote: > Run qutecsound that comes with it > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm > Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > >> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >> >> r >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: >> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >> wrote:>> It takes me to: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >> >> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >> link on >> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: Rick >> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> >> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >> another. the >> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >> >>> > goes to >> >>> > LinkedIn. >> >>> > >> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >> >>> > fun though. >> >>> > >> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >> page says it uses >> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >> that up. >> >>> > >> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >> wrecked links >> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >> >>> > > >> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >> know is only built for intel and will not >> >>> > work on PPC. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > P >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >> in to >> >>> > so many >> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >> >>> > pointless?>> >> >>> > >> and >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >> >>> > to be my >> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> r >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >> >>> > years ago! >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >> wrote: >> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >> >>> > etc. When I >> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >> Good to >> >>> > know it >> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> r >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >> >>> > easily be user error. >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >> >>> > I'll do it again >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >> >>> > would fix it as >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >> sound I/O >> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >> format (raw,dB,colors) >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >> >>> > file 'fnam' >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >> >>> > at tempo N >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >> a temporary >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >> >>> > from device >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >> device 'dnam' >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >> file 'fnam' >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >> >>> > soundfile write >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >> >>> > is done >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >> is done >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >> performance time >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >> >>> > screen. This will tell >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >> >>> > installation. If so, just >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >> me to >> >>> > go to the MacPython >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >> messages it >> >>> > has waiting. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >> to do >> >>> > message handling, >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >> >>> > right after the >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >> >>> > has gotten to the >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >> through, but >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >> be on >> >>> > the message stack or it will just >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >> >>> > table message, but >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >> >>> > thread in order to >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >> queue with >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >> >>> > API call? Say I call >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >> expect to >> >>> > get -1 depending >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >> >>> > enter a wait loop >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >> != -1). >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >> >>> > score event, etc.) are >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >> >>> > semantics imply that f >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >> end or >> >>> > not. I guess they >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> > with body >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> > >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To 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>> >>> > body "unsubscribe >> >>> > >>>>>> csound" >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> -- >> >>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>> > >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >> >>> > >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>> > >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >> >>> > body "unsubscribe csound" >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >>> > >>>> >> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>> >> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >>> > >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> with body >> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >> >>> 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Date	2011-10-06 20:10
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	No need for Jack. Open preferences and set the device in "Realtime Play". P On 6 October 2011 20:07, Rick wrote: > Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route > audio? Core and RME aren't getting it > > > r > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote: >> Run qutecsound that comes with it >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rick >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >>> >>> r >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: >>> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >>> wrote:>> It takes me to: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >>> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >>> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >> >>> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >>> link on >>> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Rick >>> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >>> another. the >>> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>> >>> > goes to >>> >>> > LinkedIn. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>> >>> > fun though. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >>> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >>> page says it uses >>> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >>> that up. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >>> wrecked links >>> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >>> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >>> know is only built for intel and will not >>> >>> > work on PPC. >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > P >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >>> in to >>> >>> > so many >>> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>> >>> > pointless?>> >>> >>> > >> and >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>> >>> > to be my >>> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> r >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>> >>> > years ago! >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>> >>> > etc. When I >>> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >>> Good to >>> >>> > know it >>> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> r >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>> >>> > easily be user error. >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>> >>> > I'll do it again >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>> >>> > would fix it as >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >>> sound I/O >>> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >>> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >>> format (raw,dB,colors) >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>> >>> > file 'fnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>> >>> > at tempo N >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >>> a temporary >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>> >>> > from device >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >>> device 'dnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >>> file 'fnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>> >>> > soundfile write >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>> >>> > is done >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >>> is done >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >>> performance time >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>> >>> > screen. This will tell >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>> >>> > installation. If so, just >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >>> me to >>> >>> > go to the MacPython >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >>> messages it >>> >>> > has waiting. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >>> to do >>> >>> > message handling, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>> >>> > right after the >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>> >>> > has gotten to the >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >>> through, but >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >>> be on >>> >>> > the message stack or it will just >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>> >>> > table message, but >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>> >>> > thread in order to >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >>> queue with >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>> >>> > API call? Say I call >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >>> expect to >>> >>> > get -1 depending >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>> >>> > enter a wait loop >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >>> != -1). >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>> >>> > score event, etc.) are >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>> >>> > semantics imply that f >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >>> end or >>> >>> > not. I guess they >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > with body >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > with body >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > with body >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer 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Date	2011-10-06 20:11
From	Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
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Date	2011-10-06 20:13
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	not crashing this time. running examples nicely. Good start. Will ditch this Cecilia idea. Shame though, I did like her. r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Rick wrote: > Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route > audio? Core and RME aren't getting it > > > r > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote: >> Run qutecsound that comes with it >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rick >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >>> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >>> >>> r >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: >>> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >>> wrote:>> It takes me to: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >>> >> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >>> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >>> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >> >>> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >>> link on >>> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Rick >>> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >>> another. the >>> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>> >>> > goes to >>> >>> > LinkedIn. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>> >>> > fun though. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >>> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >>> page says it uses >>> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >>> that up. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >>> wrecked links >>> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >>> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >>> know is only built for intel and will not >>> >>> > work on PPC. >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > P >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >>> in to >>> >>> > so many >>> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>> >>> > pointless?>> >>> >>> > >> and >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>> >>> > to be my >>> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> r >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>> >>> > years ago! >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>> >>> > etc. When I >>> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >>> Good to >>> >>> > know it >>> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> r >>> >>> > >>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>> >>> > easily be user error. >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>> >>> > I'll do it again >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>> >>> > would fix it as >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >>> sound I/O >>> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >>> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >>> format (raw,dB,colors) >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>> >>> > file 'fnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>> >>> > at tempo N >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >>> a temporary >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>> >>> > from device >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >>> device 'dnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >>> file 'fnam' >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>> >>> > soundfile write >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>> >>> > is done >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >>> is done >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >>> performance time >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>> >>> > screen. This will tell >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>> >>> > installation. If so, just >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >>> me to >>> >>> > go to the MacPython >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >>> messages it >>> >>> > has waiting. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >>> to do >>> >>> > message handling, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>> >>> > right after the >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>> >>> > has gotten to the >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >>> through, but >>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >>> be on >>> >>> > the message stack or it will just >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>> >>> > table message, but >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>> >>> > thread in order to >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >>> queue with >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>> >>> > API call? Say I call >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >>> expect to >>> >>> > get -1 depending >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>> >>> > enter a wait loop >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >>> != -1). >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>> >>> > score event, etc.) are >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>> >>> > semantics imply that f >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >>> end or >>> >>> > not. I guess they >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>> > with body >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here 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> >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599> >>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > -- >>> >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> > Dr. Richard Nance >>> >>> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>> >>> > >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>> > >>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>> >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, 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Date	2011-10-06 20:16
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	yes, thanks. I've been using cecilia for years, so I've been effectively insulated from having to know all that much. Times change. Saints are de-sanctified. So it goes. All seems smooth now. Thanks very much. much. bunches. r On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:11 PM, wrote: > No, you should not need it. Try opening the qutecsound settings and defining > the dac numbers for the devices you have. These should have been listed in > the csound messages in the qutecsound console when you ran a CSD file for > the first time. > > Check out http://www.flossmanuals.net/csound/ if you're new to the system. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:07 pm > Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > >> Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route >> audio? Core and RME aren't getting it >> >> >> r >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, >> wrote: >> > Run qutecsound that comes with it >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Rick >> > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm >> > Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> > >> >> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >> >> >> >> r >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick >> wrote:>> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >> >> wrote:>> It takes me to: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >> >> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> >> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >> >> >> >> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >> >> link on >> >> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>> From: Rick >> >> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >> >> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >> >> another. the >> >> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i >> actually need) >> >> >>> > goes to >> >> >>> > LinkedIn. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that >> again. Looked >> >> >>> > fun though. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >> >> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >> >> page says it uses >> >> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >> >> that up. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >> >> wrecked links >> >> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >> >> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >> >> know is only built for intel and will not >> >> >>> > work on PPC. >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > P >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >> >> in to >> >> >>> > so many >> >> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because >> my own >> >> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >> >> >>> > pointless?>> >> >> >>> > >> and >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? >> That seems >> >> >>> > to be my >> >> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> r >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >> >> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up >> on that >> >> >>> > years ago! >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the >> manual>> >>> > etc. When I >> >> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >> >> Good to >> >> >>> > know it >> >> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> r >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> >> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >> >> >>> > easily be user error. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >> >> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >> >> >>> > I'll do it again >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing >> cecilia>> >>> > would fix it as >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >> >> sound I/O >> >> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >> >> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >> >> format (raw,dB,colors) >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >> >> >>> > file 'fnam' >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, >> initially>> >>> > at tempo N >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >> >> a temporary >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime >> score events >> >> >>> > from device >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >> >> device 'dnam' >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >> >> file 'fnam' >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >> >> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >> >> >>> > soundfile write >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or >> miditrack>> >>> > is done >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >> >> is done >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >> >> performance time >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 >> -m135 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >> >> >>> > screen. This will tell >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >> >> >>> > installation. If so, just >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >> >> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >> >> me to >> >> >>> > go to the MacPython >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >> >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >> >> messages it >> >> >>> > has waiting. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >> >> to do >> >> >>> > message handling, >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >> >> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table >> length>> >>> > right after the >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before >> csoundPerformKsmps>> >>> > has gotten to the >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >> >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >> >> through, but >> >> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >> >> be on >> >> >>> > the message stack or it will just >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send >> a blank >> >> >>> > table message, but >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a >> performance>> >>> > thread in order to >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >> >> queue with >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for >> the next >> >> >>> > API call? Say I call >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >> >> expect to >> >> >>> > get -1 depending >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting >> so I >> >> >>> > enter a wait loop >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >> >> != -1). >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >> >> >>> > score event, etc.) are >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >> >> >>> > semantics imply that f >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >> >> end or >> >> >>> > not. I guess they >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug >> tracker>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email >> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk>> >>> > with body >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> 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>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -- >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email >> >> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >> >> >>> > body "unsubscribe >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> csound" >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Discussions of bugs 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>>> > >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> >> >>> > >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> >> >>> > >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>> > >> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email >> sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >> >> >>> > body "unsubscribe >> >> >>> > >>>>>> csound" >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> -- >> >> >>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>> > >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >> >> >>> > >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> 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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>> > >> Dr. Richard Nance >> >> >>> > >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>> >> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> with body >> >> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599> >> >> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >> with body >> >> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > -- >> >> >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>> > Dr. Richard Nance >> >> >>> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >>> > >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>> > >> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> >> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >> >> >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >> >> >> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > Dr. Richard Nance >> >> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Dr. Richard Nance >> >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> >> >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> >> "unsubscribe csound" >> >> >> > >> > Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >> > National University of Ireland, Maynooth >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> >> >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >> "unsubscribe csound" >> > > Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, > National University of Ireland, Maynooth > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Richard Nance www.PlasticMusic.Net Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of 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Date	2011-10-06 20:17
From	peiman khosravi
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	Welcome to the wonderful world of Csound Rick!! P On 6 October 2011 20:13, Rick wrote: > not crashing this time. running examples nicely. Good start. Will > ditch this Cecilia idea. Shame though, I did like her. > > r > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Rick wrote: >> Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route >> audio? Core and RME aren't getting it >> >> >> r >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote: >>> Run qutecsound that comes with it >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rick >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>> >>>> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >>>> >>>> r >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: >>>> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >>>> wrote:>> It takes me to: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >>>> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> >> >>>> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >>>> link on >>>> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: Rick >>>> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>>> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >>>> another. the >>>> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>>> >>> > goes to >>>> >>> > LinkedIn. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>>> >>> > fun though. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >>>> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >>>> page says it uses >>>> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >>>> that up. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >>>> wrecked links >>>> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >>>> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >>>> know is only built for intel and will not >>>> >>> > work on PPC. >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > P >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>>> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >>>> in to >>>> >>> > so many >>>> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>>> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>>> >>> > pointless?>> >>>> >>> > >> and >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>>> >>> > to be my >>>> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> r >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>>> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>>> >>> > >>> >>>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>>> >>> > years ago! >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>>> >>> > etc. When I >>>> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >>>> Good to >>>> >>> > know it >>>> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> r >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>>> >>> > easily be user error. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>>> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>>> >>> > I'll do it again >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>>> >>> > would fix it as >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >>>> sound I/O >>>> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >>>> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >>>> format (raw,dB,colors) >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>>> >>> > file 'fnam' >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>>> >>> > at tempo N >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >>>> a temporary >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>>> >>> > from device >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >>>> device 'dnam' >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >>>> file 'fnam' >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>>> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>>> >>> > soundfile write >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>>> >>> > is done >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >>>> is done >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >>>> performance time >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>>> >>> > screen. This will tell >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>>> >>> > installation. If so, just >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>>> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >>>> me to >>>> >>> > go to the MacPython >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >>>> messages it >>>> >>> > has waiting. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >>>> to do >>>> >>> > message handling, >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>>> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>>> >>> > right after the >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>>> >>> > has gotten to the >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >>>> through, but >>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >>>> be on >>>> >>> > the message stack or it will just >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>>> >>> > table message, but >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>>> >>> > thread in order to >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >>>> queue with >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>>> >>> > API call? Say I call >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >>>> expect to >>>> >>> > get -1 depending >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>>> >>> > enter a wait loop >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >>>> != -1). >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>>> >>> > score event, etc.) are >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>>> >>> > semantics imply that f >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >>>> end or >>>> >>> > not. I guess they >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> >>> > with body >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > Discussions of bugs and 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>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>>> >>> > body "unsubscribe >>>> >>> > >>>>>> csound" >>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> -- >>>> >>> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>> > >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> >>> > >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>> > >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with >>>> >>> > body "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> with body >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>> >>>> >>> > >>> >>>> >>> > >>> >>>> >>> > >>> -- >>>> >>> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>> > >>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> >>> > >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>> > >>> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> -- >>>> >>> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>> > >> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> >>> > >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > >> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599> >>>> >>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > -- >>>> >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>> > Dr. Richard Nance >>>> >>> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> >>> > >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>> > >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> >>> > "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>>> >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>>> >> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> > Dr. Richard Nance >>>> > www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Dr. Richard Nance >>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net >>>> >>>> >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body >>>> "unsubscribe csound" >>>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Dr. Richard Nance >> www.PlasticMusic.Net >> > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dr. Richard Nance > www.PlasticMusic.Net > > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" > > Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599 Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound"

Date	2011-10-06 20:20
From	Rick
Subject	Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
	thanks On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:17 PM, peiman khosravi wrote: > Welcome to the wonderful world of Csound Rick!! > > P > > On 6 October 2011 20:13, Rick wrote: >> not crashing this time. running examples nicely. Good start. Will >> ditch this Cecilia idea. Shame though, I did like her. >> >> r >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Rick wrote: >>> Okay. I can run Qute sound. I assume I need to use Jack to route >>> audio? Core and RME aren't getting it >>> >>> >>> r >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:04 PM, wrote: >>>> Run qutecsound that comes with it >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Rick >>>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:02 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> >>>>> okay. just installed that. Now I can't find it. That may be a lead. >>>>> >>>>> r >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Rick wrote: >>>>> > yeah, that version crashes on start up. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:56 PM, >>>>> wrote:>> It takes me to: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >>>>> >> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>>>> >> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first >>>>> link on >>>>> >>> downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>> From: Rick >>>>> >>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm >>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start >>>>> >>> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is >>>>> another. the >>>>> >>> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) >>>>> >>> > goes to >>>>> >>> > LinkedIn. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > The whole thing is a mess. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked >>>>> >>> > fun though. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a >>>>> universal>>> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One >>>>> page says it uses >>>>> >>> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs >>>>> that up. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only >>>>> wrecked links >>>>> >>> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi >>>>> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >>> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > The most recent cecilia is here >>>>> http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/>>> > > FFTools as far as I >>>>> know is only built for intel and will not >>>>> >>> > work on PPC. >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > P >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: >>>>> >>> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run >>>>> in to >>>>> >>> > so many >>>>> >>> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own >>>>> >>> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting >>>>> >>> > pointless?>> >>>>> >>> > >> and >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems >>>>> >>> > to be my >>>>> >>> > >> worst dead end luck. >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> r >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick >>>>> >>> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then >>>>> >>> > >>> >>>>> >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh >>>>> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that >>>>> >>> > years ago! >>>>> >>> > >>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual >>>>> >>> > etc. When I >>>>> >>> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. >>>>> Good to >>>>> >>> > know it >>>>> >>> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> r >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>> >>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? >>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could >>>>> >>> > easily be user error. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, >>>>> >>> > wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. >>>>> >>> > I'll do it again >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia >>>>> >>> > would fix it as >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software >>>>> sound I/O >>>>> >>> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, >>>>> 4=warnings>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp >>>>> format (raw,dB,colors) >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract >>>>> >>> > file 'fnam' >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially >>>>> >>> > at tempo N >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than >>>>> a temporary >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events >>>>> >>> > from device >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from >>>>> device 'dnam' >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from >>>>> file 'fnam' >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing >>>>> >>> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each >>>>> >>> > soundfile write >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack >>>>> >>> > is done >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack >>>>> is done >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until >>>>> performance time >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your >>>>> >>> > screen. This will tell >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound >>>>> >>> > installation. If so, just >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related >>>>> >>> > anymore. FFTools gets >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells >>>>> me to >>>>> >>> > go to the MacPython >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi >>>>> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, >>>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue will wait >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the >>>>> messages it >>>>> >>> > has waiting. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded >>>>> to do >>>>> >>> > message handling, >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to >>>>> >>> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length >>>>> >>> > right after the >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps >>>>> >>> > has gotten to the >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call >>>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs >>>>> through, but >>>>> >>> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message >>>>> be on >>>>> >>> > the message stack or it will just >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank >>>>> >>> > table message, but >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance >>>>> >>> > thread in order to >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread >>>>> queue with >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next >>>>> >>> > API call? Say I call >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I >>>>> expect to >>>>> >>> > get -1 depending >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I >>>>> >>> > enter a wait loop >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength >>>>> != -1). >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send >>>>> >>> > score event, etc.) are >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" >>>>> >>> > semantics imply that f >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very >>>>> end or >>>>> >>> > not. I guess they >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>>> >>> > with body >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker >>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> 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