Cecilia3 uses whatever Csound you have in your path, I think. I might be wrong, though. I think if csound~ is a fat binary, maybe FFTools is also a fat binary. Is Max a fat a binary? Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: peiman khosravi Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:44 pm Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not > work on PPC. > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. > > P > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: > > Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to > so many > > dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer > > is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless? > > > > and > > > > Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to > be my > > worst dead end luck. > > > > really appreciate the help, btw. > > > > r > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick wrote: > >> good. be right back then > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh > wrote: > >>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that > years ago! > >>> > >>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: > >>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual > etc. When I > >>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to > know it > >>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> r > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? > >>>>> > >>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily > be user error. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ==John ff > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll > do it again > >>>>>>>> now, just in case. > >>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia > would fix it as > >>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > >>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > >>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > >>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 > >>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > >>>>>>>> Legal flags are: > >>>>>>>> --help print long usage options > >>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam > >>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > >>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run > >>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk > >>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename > >>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename > >>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer > >>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > >>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > >>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile > >>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > >>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile > >>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > >>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > >>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples > >>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples > >>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples > >>>>>>>> -f float sound samples > >>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples > >>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override > >>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override > >>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > >>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation > >>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: > >>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > >>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > >>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information > >>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays > >>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > >>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > >>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file > 'fnam'>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, > initially at tempo N > >>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > >>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events > from device > >>>>>>>> 'dnam' > >>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > >>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > >>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) > >>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write > >>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done > >>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > >>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > >>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device > >>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version > >>>>>>>> -Z Dither output > >>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > >>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. > This will tell > >>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound > installation. If so, just > >>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Victor > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related > anymore. FFTools gets > >>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go > to the MacPython > >>>>>>>>>> site > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> any ideas? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PPC > >>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 > >>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> cheers, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Rick > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, > FlushMessageQueue will wait > >>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it > has waiting. > >>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do > message handling, > >>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to > csoundPerformKsmps. So it > >>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length > right after the > >>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps > has gotten to the > >>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call > FlushMessageQueue twice, so > >>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on > the message stack or it will just > >>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); > >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank > table message, but > >>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> steven > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance > thread in order to > >>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with > >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API > call? Say I call > >>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to > get -1 depending > >>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I > enter a wait loop > >>>>>>>>>>>> until > >>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score > event, etc.) are > >>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics > imply that f > >>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or > not. I guess they > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> 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