I guess it's because csound has had a long history and there are various versions etc. But you should always look at the sourceforge site for releases.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick <ricknance@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk

> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to so many
> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer
> is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless?
>
> and
>
> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to
> be my
> worst dead end luck.
>
> really appreciate the help, btw.
>
> r
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > good. be right back then
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh
> <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
> >> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that
> years ago!
> >>
> >> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual
> etc. When I
> >>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to
> know it
> >>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> r
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily
> be user error.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM,  <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ==John ff
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll
> do it again
> >>>>>>> now, just in case.
> >>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia
> would fix it as
> >>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
> >>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
> >>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011
> >>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21
> >>>>>>> Usage:        csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile
> >>>>>>> Legal flags are:
> >>>>>>> --help        print long usage options
> >>>>>>> -U unam       run utility program unam
> >>>>>>> -C    use Cscore processing of scorefile
> >>>>>>> -I    I-time only orch run
> >>>>>>> -n    no sound onto disk
> >>>>>>> -i fnam       sound input filename
> >>>>>>> -o fnam       sound output filename
> >>>>>>> -b N  sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer
> >>>>>>> -B N  samples per hardware sound I/O buffer
> >>>>>>> -A    create an AIFF format output soundfile
> >>>>>>> -W    create a WAV format output soundfile
> >>>>>>> -J    create an IRCAM format output soundfile
> >>>>>>> -h    no header on output soundfile
> >>>>>>> -c    8-bit signed_char sound samples
> >>>>>>> -8    8-bit unsigned_char sound samples
> >>>>>>> -u    ulaw sound samples
> >>>>>>> -s    short_int sound samples
> >>>>>>> -l    long_int sound samples
> >>>>>>> -f    float sound samples
> >>>>>>> -3    24bit sound samples
> >>>>>>> -r N  orchestra srate override
> >>>>>>> -k N  orchestra krate override
> >>>>>>> -K    Do not generate PEAK chunks
> >>>>>>> -v    verbose orch translation
> >>>>>>> -m N  tty message level. Sum of:
> >>>>>>>              1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings
> >>>>>>>              0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors)
> >>>>>>>              128=print benchmark information
> >>>>>>> -d    suppress all displays
> >>>>>>> -g    suppress graphics, use ascii displays
> >>>>>>> -G    suppress graphics, use Postscript displays
> >>>>>>> -x fnam       extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam'
> >>>>>>> -t N  use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at
> tempo N
> >>>>>>> -t 0  use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary
> >>>>>>> -L dnam       read Line-oriented realtime score events
> from device
> >>>>>>> 'dnam'
> >>>>>>> -M dnam       read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam'
> >>>>>>> -F fnam       read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam'
> >>>>>>> -R    continually rewrite header while writing soundfile
> (WAV/AIFF)>>>>>>> -H#   print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each
> soundfile write
> >>>>>>> -N    notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done
> >>>>>>> -T    terminate the performance when miditrack is done
> >>>>>>> -D    defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time
> >>>>>>> -Q dnam       select MIDI output device
> >>>>>>> -z    List opcodes in this version
> >>>>>>> -Z    Dither output
> >>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135
> >>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen.
> This will tell
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound
> installation. If so, just
> >>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related
> anymore. FFTools gets
> >>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go
> to the MacPython
> >>>>>>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> any ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PPC
> >>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8
> >>>>>>>>> python 2.6
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Rick
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi
> <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code,
> FlushMessageQueue will wait
> >>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it
> has waiting.
> >>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do
> message handling,
> >>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to
> csoundPerformKsmps.  So it
> >>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length
> right after the
> >>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps
> has gotten to the
> >>>>>>>>>> processing of that event.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call
> FlushMessageQueue twice, so
> >>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but
> FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on
> the message stack or it will just
> >>>>>>>>>> return.  So something like:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage("");
> >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff ..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank
> table message, but
> >>>>>>>>>> worth a shot.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita
> >>>>>>>>>> <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance
> thread in order to
> >>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with
> >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API
> call? Say I call
> >>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to
> get -1 depending
> >>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter
> a wait loop
> >>>>>>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score
> event, etc.) are
> >>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics
> imply that f
> >>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or
> not. I guess they
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
> >>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
> >>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
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> >>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
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> >>>>
> >>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> >>>> Senior Lecturer
> >>>> Dept. of Music
> >>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> >>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> >>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Dr. Richard Nance
> > www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dr. Richard Nance
> www.PlasticMusic.Net
>
>
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Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth