It takes me to:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download
----- Original Message -----
From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick <ricknance@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
>
> > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the
> > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need)
> > goes to
> > LinkedIn.
> >
> > The whole thing is a mess.
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked
> > fun though.
> >
> > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal
> > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses
> > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up.
> >
> > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links
> > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi
> > <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?)
> > >
> > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/
> > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not
> > work on PPC.
> > >
> > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know.
> > >
> > > P
> > >
> > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to
> > so many
> > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own
> > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting
> > pointless?>>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems
> > to be my
> > >> worst dead end luck.
> > >>
> > >> really appreciate the help, btw.
> > >>
> > >> r
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com>
> > wrote:>>> good. be right back then
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh
> > <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
> > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that
> > years ago!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual
> > etc. When I
> > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to
> > know it
> > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> r
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> > >>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could
> > easily be user error.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk>
> > wrote:>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year.
> > I'll do it again
> > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case.
> > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia
> > would fix it as
> > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
> > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
> > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011
> > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21
> > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile
> > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are:
> > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options
> > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam
> > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile
> > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run
> > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk
> > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename
> > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename
> > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O
> > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer
> > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile
> > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile
> > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile
> > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile
> > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples
> > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override
> > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override
> > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks
> > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation
> > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of:
> > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings
> > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors)
> > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information
> > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays
> > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays
> > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays
> > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract
> > file 'fnam'
> > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially
> > at tempo N
> > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary
> > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events
> > from device
> > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam'
> > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam'
> > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam'
> > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing
> > soundfile (WAV/AIFF)
> > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each
> > soundfile write
> > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack
> > is done
> > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done
> > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time
> > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device
> > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version
> > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output
> > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135
> > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> > >>>>>>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your
> > screen. This will tell
> > >>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound
> > installation. If so, just
> > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related
> > anymore. FFTools gets
> > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to
> > go to the MacPython
> > >>>>>>>>>>> site
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC
> > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8
> > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi
> > <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code,
> > FlushMessageQueue will wait
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it
> > has waiting.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do
> > message handling,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to
> > csoundPerformKsmps. So it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length
> > right after the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps
> > has gotten to the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call
> > FlushMessageQueue twice, so
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but
> > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on
> > the message stack or it will just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage("");
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff ..
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank
> > table message, but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance
> > thread in order to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next
> > API call? Say I call
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to
> > get -1 depending
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I
> > enter a wait loop
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send
> > score event, etc.) are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received"
> > semantics imply that f
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or
> > not. I guess they
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
> > >>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
> > >>>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> > >>>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> > >>>>>>> csound"
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> > >>>>>> Senior Lecturer
> > >>>>>> Dept. of Music
> > >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> > >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> > >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> Dr. Richard Nance
> > >> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
> > >>
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> > >
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Dr. Richard Nance
> > www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >
> >
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> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,
National University of Ireland, Maynooth