It takes me to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/csound5.13-OSX10.5-universal.dmg/download ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:55 pm Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm > Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start > To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > > > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the > > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) > > goes to > > LinkedIn. > > > > The whole thing is a mess. > > > > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked > > fun though. > > > > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal > > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses > > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. > > > > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links > > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi > > wrote: > > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) > > > > > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ > > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not > > work on PPC. > > > > > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. > > > > > > P > > > > > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: > > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to > > so many > > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own > > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting > > pointless?>> > > >> and > > >> > > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems > > to be my > > >> worst dead end luck. > > >> > > >> really appreciate the help, btw. > > >> > > >> r > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick > > wrote:>>> good. be right back then > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh > > wrote: > > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that > > years ago! > > >>>> > > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: > > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual > > etc. When I > > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to > > know it > > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks > > >>>>> > > >>>>> r > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could > > easily be user error. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, > > wrote:>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> ==John ff > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. > > I'll do it again > > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. > > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia > > would fix it as > > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 > > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: > > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options > > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam > > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run > > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk > > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename > > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename > > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O > > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile > > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile > > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples > > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override > > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override > > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation > > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: > > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information > > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays > > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract > > file 'fnam' > > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially > > at tempo N > > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events > > from device > > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' > > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing > > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) > > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each > > soundfile write > > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack > > is done > > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device > > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version > > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output > > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your > > screen. This will tell > > >>>>>>>>>> you > > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound > > installation. If so, just > > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Victor > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related > > anymore. FFTools gets > > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to > > go to the MacPython > > >>>>>>>>>>> site > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC > > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 > > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi > > wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, > > FlushMessageQueue will wait > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it > > has waiting. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do > > message handling, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to > > csoundPerformKsmps. So it > > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length > > right after the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps > > has gotten to the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call > > FlushMessageQueue twice, so > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but > > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on > > the message stack or it will just > > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); > > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank > > table message, but > > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance > > thread in order to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next > > API call? Say I call > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to > > get -1 depending > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I > > enter a wait loop > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send > > score event, etc.) are > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" > > semantics imply that f > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or > > not. I guess they > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > > with body > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > > with body > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > 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