Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick <ricknance@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the
> tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need)
> goes to
> LinkedIn.
>
> The whole thing is a mess.
>
> Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked
> fun though.
>
> Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal
> install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses
> CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up.
>
> How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links
> I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi
> <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?)
> >
> > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/
> > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not
> work on PPC.
> >
> > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know.
> >
> > P
> >
> > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to
> so many
> >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own
> computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting
> pointless?>>
> >> and
> >>
> >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems
> to be my
> >> worst dead end luck.
> >>
> >> really appreciate the help, btw.
> >>
> >> r
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com>
> wrote:>>> good. be right back then
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh
> <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
> >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that
> years ago!
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual
> etc. When I
> >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to
> know it
> >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> r
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could
> easily be user error.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk>
> wrote:>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ==John ff
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year.
> I'll do it again
> >>>>>>>>> now, just in case.
> >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia
> would fix it as
> >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
> >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
> >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011
> >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21
> >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile
> >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are:
> >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options
> >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam
> >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile
> >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run
> >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk
> >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename
> >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename
> >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O
> buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer
> >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile
> >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples
> >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override
> >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override
> >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks
> >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation
> >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of:
> >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings
> >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors)
> >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information
> >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays
> >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays
> >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays
> >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract
> file 'fnam'
> >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially
> at tempo N
> >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary
> >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events
> from device
> >>>>>>>>> 'dnam'
> >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam'
> >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam'
> >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing
> soundfile (WAV/AIFF)
> >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each
> soundfile write
> >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack
> is done
> >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done
> >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time
> >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device
> >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version
> >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output
> >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135
> >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your
> screen. This will tell
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound
> installation. If so, just
> >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related
> anymore. FFTools gets
> >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to
> go to the MacPython
> >>>>>>>>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> PPC
> >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8
> >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Rick
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi
> <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code,
> FlushMessageQueue will wait
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it
> has waiting.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do
> message handling,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to
> csoundPerformKsmps. So it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length
> right after the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps
> has gotten to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call
> FlushMessageQueue twice, so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but
> FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on
> the message stack or it will just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage("");
> >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank
> table message, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance
> thread in order to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next
> API call? Say I call
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to
> get -1 depending
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I
> enter a wait loop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send
> score event, etc.) are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received"
> semantics imply that f
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or
> not. I guess they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
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> >>>>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
> >>>>>>>>>> Dept. of Music
> >>>>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> >>>>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> >>>>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>> Senior Lecturer
> >>>>>> Dept. of Music
> >>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> >>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> >>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> Dr. Richard Nance
> >>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Dr. Richard Nance
> >> www.PlasticMusic.Net
> >>
> >>
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> Dr. Richard Nance
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