I guess it's because csound has had a long history and there are various versions etc. But you should always look at the sourceforge site for releases. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:26 pm Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to so many > dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer > is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless? > > and > > Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to > be my > worst dead end luck. > > really appreciate the help, btw. > > r > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick wrote: > > good. be right back then > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh > wrote: > >> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that > years ago! > >> > >> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: > >>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual > etc. When I > >>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to > know it > >>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> r > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>> wrote: > >>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? > >>>> > >>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. > >>>>> > >>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily > be user error. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ==John ff > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll > do it again > >>>>>>> now, just in case. > >>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia > would fix it as > >>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > >>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > >>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > >>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 > >>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > >>>>>>> Legal flags are: > >>>>>>> --help print long usage options > >>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam > >>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > >>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run > >>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk > >>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename > >>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename > >>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer > >>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > >>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > >>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile > >>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > >>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile > >>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > >>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > >>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples > >>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples > >>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples > >>>>>>> -f float sound samples > >>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples > >>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override > >>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override > >>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > >>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation > >>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: > >>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > >>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > >>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information > >>>>>>> -d suppress all displays > >>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > >>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > >>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file 'fnam' > >>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially at > tempo N > >>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > >>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events > from device > >>>>>>> 'dnam' > >>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > >>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > >>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing soundfile > (WAV/AIFF)>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each > soundfile write > >>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done > >>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > >>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > >>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device > >>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version > >>>>>>> -Z Dither output > >>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > >>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen. > This will tell > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound > installation. If so, just > >>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Victor > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related > anymore. FFTools gets > >>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go > to the MacPython > >>>>>>>>> site > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> any ideas? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PPC > >>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 > >>>>>>>>> python 2.6 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> cheers, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Rick > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, > FlushMessageQueue will wait > >>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it > has waiting. > >>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do > message handling, > >>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to > csoundPerformKsmps. So it > >>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length > right after the > >>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps > has gotten to the > >>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call > FlushMessageQueue twice, so > >>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on > the message stack or it will just > >>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); > >>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank > table message, but > >>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> steven > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance > thread in order to > >>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with > >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. > >>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API > call? Say I call > >>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to > get -1 depending > >>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I enter > a wait loop > >>>>>>>>>>> until > >>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score > event, etc.) are > >>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics > imply that f > >>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or > not. I guess they > >>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Richard Nance > >>>>>>>>> www.PlasticMusic.Net > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > >>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini > >>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer > >>>>>>>> Dept. of Music > >>>>>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland > >>>>>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > >>>>>>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > >>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 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Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with > body "unsubscribe > >>>>> csound" > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini > >>>> Senior Lecturer > >>>> Dept. of Music > >>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland > >>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > >>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe>>>> csound" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>> Dr. Richard Nance > >>> www.PlasticMusic.Net > >>> > >>> > >>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>> > 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