Cecilia3 uses whatever Csound you have in your path, I think. I might be wrong, though. I think if csound~ is a fat binary, maybe FFTools is also a fat binary. Is Max a fat a binary?
Victor
----- Original Message -----
From: peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start
To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?)
>
> The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/
> FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not
> work on PPC.
>
> Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know.
>
> P
>
> On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to
> so many
> > dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own computer
> > is so old that finding a newish version is getting pointless?
> >
> > and
> >
> > Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems to
> be my
> > worst dead end luck.
> >
> > really appreciate the help, btw.
> >
> > r
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> good. be right back then
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh
> <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
> >>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that
> years ago!
> >>>
> >>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick <ricknance@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual
> etc. When I
> >>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to
> know it
> >>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> r
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could easily
> be user error.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ==John ff
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. I'll
> do it again
> >>>>>>>> now, just in case.
> >>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia
> would fix it as
> >>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound
> >>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound
> >>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0
> >>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011
> >>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21
> >>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile
> >>>>>>>> Legal flags are:
> >>>>>>>> --help print long usage options
> >>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam
> >>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile
> >>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run
> >>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk
> >>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename
> >>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename
> >>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O buffer
> >>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer
> >>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile
> >>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile
> >>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -f float sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples
> >>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override
> >>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override
> >>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks
> >>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation
> >>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of:
> >>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings
> >>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors)
> >>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information
> >>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays
> >>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays
> >>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays
> >>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract file
> 'fnam'>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score,
> initially at tempo N
> >>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary
> >>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events
> from device
> >>>>>>>> 'dnam'
> >>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam'
> >>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam'
> >>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing
> soundfile (WAV/AIFF)
> >>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each soundfile write
> >>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack is done
> >>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done
> >>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time
> >>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device
> >>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version
> >>>>>>>> -Z Dither output
> >>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135
> >>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>>>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your screen.
> This will tell
> >>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound
> installation. If so, just
> >>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related
> anymore. FFTools gets
> >>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to go
> to the MacPython
> >>>>>>>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> any ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> PPC
> >>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8
> >>>>>>>>>> python 2.6
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Rick
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi
> <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code,
> FlushMessageQueue will wait
> >>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it
> has waiting.
> >>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do
> message handling,
> >>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to
> csoundPerformKsmps. So it
> >>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length
> right after the
> >>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps
> has gotten to the
> >>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call
> FlushMessageQueue twice, so
> >>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but
> FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on
> the message stack or it will just
> >>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage("");
> >>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue();
> >>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff ..
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank
> table message, but
> >>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita
> >>>>>>>>>>> <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance
> thread in order to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next API
> call? Say I call
> >>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to
> get -1 depending
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I
> enter a wait loop
> >>>>>>>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send score
> event, etc.) are
> >>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" semantics
> imply that f
> >>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or
> not. I guess they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>> Dept. of Music
> >>>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> >>>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
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> >
> >
> >
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