Why is http://csound.sourceforge.net/ a dead end? The first link on downloads is Csound for OSX 10.5 universal. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:53 pm Subject: Re: [Csnd] crashing on start To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > sourceforge is a specific dead end. The Cecilia page is another. the > tcl/tk link on that page (which I don't think i actually need) > goes to > LinkedIn. > > The whole thing is a mess. > > Thanks for the heads up on FFTools. Won't try that again. Looked > fun though. > > Cecilia 4, which is supposed to be and acts as if it is a universal > install, (for 10.5.8) does nothing but crash. One page says it uses > CSound 5, but there's nothing in my experience that backs that up. > > How do you guys keep up with it? These aren't the only wrecked links > I've found. They're everywhere. It's like hunting for snipes. > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:43 PM, peiman khosravi > wrote: > > OK, I think you're trying to run cecilia3(?) > > > > The most recent cecilia is here http://code.google.com/p/cecilia4/ > > FFTools as far as I know is only built for intel and will not > work on PPC. > > > > Cecilia3 does not use Csound5 at all as far as I know. > > > > P > > > > On 6 October 2011 19:25, Rick wrote: > >> Why is it that when you go looking for CSound, you run in to > so many > >> dead links and out of date sites? Is it just because my own > computer>> is so old that finding a newish version is getting > pointless?>> > >> and > >> > >> Can someone direct me to some Cecilia resources? That seems > to be my > >> worst dead end luck. > >> > >> really appreciate the help, btw. > >> > >> r > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rick > wrote:>>> good. be right back then > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Rory Walsh > wrote: > >>>> No need for intelligence on this list. We gave up on that > years ago! > >>>> > >>>> On 6 October 2011 17:02, Rick wrote: > >>>>> I'll keep fooling with it, and you know, read the manual > etc. When I > >>>>> have something intelligent to say, I'll come back. Good to > know it > >>>>> isn't CSound itself though. Narrows things down a bit. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> r > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> what makes it crash? I shouldn't expect that? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 16:32, Rick wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> okay then! no re-install. Gotta like that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Qute runs. But crashes pretty quickly. Could > easily be user error. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:22 PM, > wrote:>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That looks like the output I would expect > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ==John ff > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> i have reinstalled a few times over the past year. > I'll do it again > >>>>>>>>> now, just in case. > >>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that re-installing cecilia > would fix it as > >>>>>>>>> well, but that hasn't worked out either > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Here's what I get btw, when I run ther terminal > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PortMIDI real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>>>> PortAudio real-time audio module for Csound > >>>>>>>>> virtual_keyboard real time MIDI plugin for Csound > >>>>>>>>> 0dBFS level = 32768.0 > >>>>>>>>> Csound version 5.13 (float samples) Jan 17 2011 > >>>>>>>>> libsndfile-1.0.21 > >>>>>>>>> Usage: csound [-flags] orchfile scorefile > >>>>>>>>> Legal flags are: > >>>>>>>>> --help print long usage options > >>>>>>>>> -U unam run utility program unam > >>>>>>>>> -C use Cscore processing of scorefile > >>>>>>>>> -I I-time only orch run > >>>>>>>>> -n no sound onto disk > >>>>>>>>> -i fnam sound input filename > >>>>>>>>> -o fnam sound output filename > >>>>>>>>> -b N sample frames (or -kprds) per software sound I/O > buffer>>>>>>>>> -B N samples per hardware sound I/O buffer > >>>>>>>>> -A create an AIFF format output soundfile > >>>>>>>>> -W create a WAV format output soundfile > >>>>>>>>> -J create an IRCAM format output soundfile > >>>>>>>>> -h no header on output soundfile > >>>>>>>>> -c 8-bit signed_char sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -8 8-bit unsigned_char sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -u ulaw sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -s short_int sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -l long_int sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -f float sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -3 24bit sound samples > >>>>>>>>> -r N orchestra srate override > >>>>>>>>> -k N orchestra krate override > >>>>>>>>> -K Do not generate PEAK chunks > >>>>>>>>> -v verbose orch translation > >>>>>>>>> -m N tty message level. Sum of: > >>>>>>>>> 1=note amps, 2=out-of-range msg, 4=warnings > >>>>>>>>> 0/32/64/96=note amp format (raw,dB,colors) > >>>>>>>>> 128=print benchmark information > >>>>>>>>> -d suppress all displays > >>>>>>>>> -g suppress graphics, use ascii displays > >>>>>>>>> -G suppress graphics, use Postscript displays > >>>>>>>>> -x fnam extract from score.srt using extract > file 'fnam' > >>>>>>>>> -t N use uninterpreted beats of the score, initially > at tempo N > >>>>>>>>> -t 0 use score.srt for sorted score rather than a temporary > >>>>>>>>> -L dnam read Line-oriented realtime score events > from device > >>>>>>>>> 'dnam' > >>>>>>>>> -M dnam read MIDI realtime events from device 'dnam' > >>>>>>>>> -F fnam read MIDIfile event stream from file 'fnam' > >>>>>>>>> -R continually rewrite header while writing > soundfile (WAV/AIFF) > >>>>>>>>> -H# print heartbeat style 1, 2 or 3 at each > soundfile write > >>>>>>>>> -N notify (ring the bell) when score or miditrack > is done > >>>>>>>>> -T terminate the performance when miditrack is done > >>>>>>>>> -D defer GEN01 soundfile loads until performance time > >>>>>>>>> -Q dnam select MIDI output device > >>>>>>>>> -z List opcodes in this version > >>>>>>>>> -Z Dither output > >>>>>>>>> flag defaults: csound -s -otest -b1024 -B4096 -m135 > >>>>>>>>> Csound Command ERROR: insufficient arguments > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Open the terminal and type > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/csound > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> and see if csound prints some messages to your > screen. This will tell > >>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>> whether you have a problem with your csound > installation. If so, just > >>>>>>>>>> reinstall csound, which will probably fix it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Victor > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 15:39, Rick wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I can't run anything CSound related > anymore. FFTools gets > >>>>>>>>>>> no audio, Cecilia crashes on start and tells me to > go to the MacPython > >>>>>>>>>>> site > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> any ideas? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PPC > >>>>>>>>>>> osX 10.5.8 > >>>>>>>>>>> python 2.6 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> cheers, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Rick > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Steven Yi > wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlos, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I'm seeing in the source code, > FlushMessageQueue will wait > >>>>>>>>>>>> for csPerfThread to process all of the messages it > has waiting. > >>>>>>>>>>>> However, csPerfThread's perform loop is coded to do > message handling, > >>>>>>>>>>>> then flush notification, then do a call to > csoundPerformKsmps. So it > >>>>>>>>>>>> may be the case that you are calling table length > right after the > >>>>>>>>>>>> message queue is done but before csoundPerformKsmps > has gotten to the > >>>>>>>>>>>> processing of that event. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> One thing you might be able to do is call > FlushMessageQueue twice, so > >>>>>>>>>>>> that you wait until the next loop runs through, but > FlushMessageQueue>>>>>>>>>>>> also requires that a message be on > the message stack or it will just > >>>>>>>>>>>> return. So something like: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->InputMessage(""); > >>>>>>>>>>>> csPerfThread->FlushMessageQueue(); > >>>>>>>>>>>> .. then do table stuff .. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not positive if that will work to send a blank > table message, but > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth a shot. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Carlos Pita > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose I send an f score event to a performance > thread in order to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create a table. Then I flush the thread queue with > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Should this warrant table creation for the next > API call? Say I call > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TableLength for the new table, should I expect to > get -1 depending > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timing? (In fact, that's what I'm getting so I > enter a wait loop > >>>>>>>>>>>>> until > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the table does get created and TableLength != -1). > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> FlushMessageQueue documentation states: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Waits until all pending messages (pause, send > score event, etc.) are > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually received by the performance thread. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if these "actually received" > semantics imply that f > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions are executed till their very end or > not. I guess they > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, just want to confirm it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker > >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599>>>>>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk > with body > >>>>>>>>>>>> "unsubscribe > >>>>>>>>>>>> csound" > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 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