Hi to all,
with 4.23 I was using with my students (which are artists and not 
computer scientists) winsound by John to quickly access csound, and 
winXsound (which had syntax colorizing, and was very useful to write 
csound code).
Actually I cannot find any reference to them in csounds.com. Why? Are 
they non more available? I know John was porting is winsound and that  
there is something going on by Istvan related to frontends, but I did 
not understand exactly the situation.

What can be used as frontend for rendering and for developing (on win 
platform) which is ready-togo, so that it can be installed without 
compiling?
Links? What about ...?


Thanks a lot

-a-



Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it

You could try my front end found here: www.ear.ie/Lettuce.htm
It's still in beta development but most of the bugs seem to be sorted 
out. It works with Csound5 and installing it is very straightforward, no 
compilation needed. There are some new features which I haven't got 
around to documenting on the web page yet, but if you read over the 
latest changes section you will see some of the new features added, like 
the sound file player and things like that. Also if you or your students 
have any suggestions to improve the usability of the software I would be 
glad to hear them.

Rory.


andrea valle wrote:
> Hi to all,
> with 4.23 I was using with my students (which are artists and not 
> computer scientists) winsound by John to quickly access csound, and 
> winXsound (which had syntax colorizing, and was very useful to write 
> csound code).
> Actually I cannot find any reference to them in csounds.com. Why? Are 
> they non more available? I know John was porting is winsound and that  
> there is something going on by Istvan related to frontends, but I did 
> not understand exactly the situation.
> 
> What can be used as frontend for rendering and for developing (on win 
> platform) which is ready-togo, so that it can be installed without 
> compiling?
> Links? What about ...?
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> -a-
> 
> 
> 
> Andrea Valle
> DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
> Università degli Studi di Torino
> http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
> andrea.valle@unito.it

Rory, Istvan, thanks.

I think I will introduce comamnd line and then switch to Lettuce

Best

-a-
On 13 May 2006, at 10:34, Istvan Varga wrote:

> On Saturday 13 May 2006 10:51, andrea valle wrote:
>
>
>> and that there is something going on by Istvan related to
>> frontends, but I did not understand exactly the situation.
>
> Yes, there is a new frontend with similar functionality to
> Winsound but also a few additonal features; it is in a
> reasonably stable and usable state on Win32 now. If you can
> wait a week or so, it will be included with the 5.02 release
> so no compiling should be needed.
> Of course, you can also try CsoundVST that can be found in
> already existing Csound 5 releases.
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>
>
Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it

Winsound is available from cSounds.com. Perhaps you missed the [+] 
Winsound expanding div on the index page under "Windows Users" ?

Quoted from cSounds.com:

"Synchronized to canonical Csound version 4.08, this is a version of 
Winsound for 32-bit Windows and Linux under Wine. It is Barry Vercoe's 
historic frontend and comes bundled with a handy scanned synthesis 
matrix editor (matrix.tk) written in Tcl/Tk by John ffitch that is 
compatible with the cswish frontend that is a part of Csound5.

Users may be interested in exploring this software and it can be found 
here"

http://www.csounds.com/winsound/Winsound.zip

http://www.csounds.com/winsound/Winhlp_for_csound_415.zip


Although it sounds like you're just trying to find an intuitive 
frontend for the Windows platform rather than specifically requiring 
Winsound.

Just so you know, cSounds.com is committed to providing links and easy 
access to all versions of Csound, past and present. We have actually 
been trying to find the Winsound synchronized to canonical version 
4.23. I do have it on a DX486 at my home, but I am currently on the 
road traveling so it will be 3 days at least before I can get the 
version 4.23 and add it to the page.

If your students are artists and not computer scientists (as I am), 
then why not teach them Blue ? It features the syntax colorization as 
well as an intuitive timeline editor, piano roll, and breakpoint 
display; which every commercial "artist" is used to seeing. The bonus 
is that it is *NOT* API based so it will work with all versions of 
Csound.


-David

On May 13, 2006, at 4:51 AM, andrea valle wrote:

> Hi to all,
> with 4.23 I was using with my students (which are artists and not 
> computer scientists) winsound by John to quickly access csound, and 
> winXsound (which had syntax colorizing, and was very useful to write 
> csound code).
> Actually I cannot find any reference to them in csounds.com. Why? Are 
> they non more available?

Thanks David,
yes, I missed the "+" as I was looking under frontends on the top. I 
guessed that they were coodinated. More, it's true, I  like a intuitive 
frontedn, and I'd like the idea of let the students use something in RT 
  as with csound5.


> If your students are artists and not computer scientists (as I am), 
> then why not teach them Blue ? It features the syntax colorization as 
> well as an intuitive timeline editor, piano roll, and breakpoint 
> display; which every commercial "artist" is used to seeing. The bonus 
> is that it is *NOT* API based so it will work with all versions of 
> Csound.
>

Yeah, I was also thinking about Cecilia. This year I will explore 
csound5 in real time with Cabel. Maybe next year.

Best

-a-





Andrea Valle
DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea
andrea.valle@unito.it