I have uploaded to SourceForge a new Windows installer for Csound 5, release 
candidate 2, 64 bit samples.

The installer has the same programs and plugins and creates the same 
directories as Istvan Varga's zip file.

The installer also includes CsoundVST as both a GUI front-end and a VST 
plugin, tclcsound, csoundapi~, the VST opcodes, the Loris opcodes, the fluid 
(SoundFont) opcodes, and API autodocs in addition to the complete HTML 
manual.

This installer does not include sources.

There are probably rough edges. I haven't tested every feature, and the 
documentation probably needs work. There is obviously a need for better 
examples, although I have fixed up some of the Python examples to work with 
the csnd package, or to work better than they used to. The LISP interface 
needs to be extended to CLOS as well.

I also built a 32 bit version with full optimization, but it did not run 
faster on my PC than the 64 bit version. I would appreciate some more advice 
on how to build the fastest possible version of Csound5 for 32 bit samples 
on Windows.

Please let me know of any bugs you find, or any suggestions you may have.

Regards,
Mike

The rc2 windows installer does not seem to read the csoundrc located in C:\Csound\csound5,
even if I added a system variable CSOUNDRC=C:\Csound\csound5

Entering command line options inside a csd file's  tag does work,
but it would be handy to have system wide settings in .csoundrc

Oeyvind

> From: Michael Gogins [gogins@pipeline.com]
> Sent: 2006-01-08 05:02:33 CET
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk, csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Csnd] Windows installer for Csound5.rc2
> 
> I have uploaded to SourceForge a new Windows installer for Csound 5, release 
> candidate 2, 64 bit samples.
> 

You're right, my mistake,
it works now,
sorry
Oeyvind





> From: Istvan Varga [istvan_v@fibermail.hu]
> Sent: 2006-01-09 11:29:03 CET
> To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] re: [Csnd] Windows installer for Csound5.rc2
> 
> The environment variable should contain the name of the file with
> full path, not just the directory where it is found.

There seems to be differences in how the Varga and Gogins releases access the sound card. With the Varga release, I have 16 audio devices, and I can select MME, ASIO, or ASIO4All types of access to my internal sound card. With the Gogins release, I have only 2 devices , and can only select ASIO4All for my internal sound card.
My external soundcard works nicely in both situations, but it would be good to have access to the internal soundcard when programming while I'm not in my studio.
ASIO4All does not seem to work as nicely as the "proper" ASIO driver, and I get dropouts. I tried raising the buffer settings (e.g. -b256 -B2048), but that actually made it worse. It's close to good at -b64 -B128, but even then I have occational dropouts.

I tried copying the portaudio.dll.0.0.19 file that was used by the Istvan release, but it does not seem to change anything.

It would be nicest to have access to all devices in the final version of csound5.

best
Oeyvind

Is that because they are using different Portaudio DLLs? Depending on how
the portaudio is built, it has different options of the three driver 
backends: MME, DirectX and ASIO.
If you have two different portaudio DLLS, that's why. The should be 
interchangeable,so
you can use whichever you want.

I think the Windows release should have a portaudio DLL that supports 
everything but the
kitchen sink.

Victor


At 14:50 09/01/2006, you wrote:
>There seems to be differences in how the Varga and Gogins releases access 
>the sound card. With the Varga release, I have 16 audio devices, and I can 
>select MME, ASIO, or ASIO4All types of access to my internal sound card. 
>With the Gogins release, I have only 2 devices , and can only select 
>ASIO4All for my internal sound card.
>My external soundcard works nicely in both situations, but it would be 
>good to have access to the internal soundcard when programming while I'm 
>not in my studio.
>ASIO4All does not seem to work as nicely as the "proper" ASIO driver, and 
>I get dropouts. I tried raising the buffer settings (e.g. -b256 -B2048), 
>but that actually made it worse. It's close to good at -b64 -B128, but 
>even then I have occational dropouts.
>
>I tried copying the portaudio.dll.0.0.19 file that was used by the Istvan 
>release, but it does not seem to change anything.
>
>It would be nicest to have access to all devices in the final version of 
>csound5.
>
>best
>Oeyvind

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth 

I have done this in November when you pointed out how old the DLL was;
I have a 10 Nov 2005 dll. Would that do? It's up in

http://www.nuim.ie/academic/music/vlazzarini/tmp/portaudio.zip

Victor

At 15:58 09/01/2006, you wrote:
>On Monday 09 January 2006 16:00, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
> > Is that because they are using different Portaudio DLLs? Depending on how
> > the portaudio is built, it has different options of the three driver
> > backends: MME, DirectX and ASIO.
> > If you have two different portaudio DLLS, that's why. The should be
> > interchangeable,so you can use whichever you want.
> >
> > I think the Windows release should have a portaudio DLL that supports
> > everything but the
> > kitchen sink.
>
>I included the PortAudio DLL file from your MSVC release. The last
>time I tried building a Win32 version of PortAudio with MinGW, it
>only allowed to select one interface - having MME, DirectSound, and
>ASIO in a single DLL is only possible when building with MSVC, unless
>the PortAudio developers have fixed this since then.
>As you have MSVC, you could build a DLL from recent PortAudio sources
>(the one currently available has a date of something like Oct 2004,
>so it is somewhat outdated) for use in the Windows installers.
>--
>Send bugs reports to this list.
>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth 

I already tried swapping the portaudio.dll.0.0.19 included with the Gogins release with Victor's version included with the Varga release. But it does not change anything.
I even tried deleting the file entirely, and still getting the same result.
The file is in csound5/bin, 
it seems as if the Gogins release does not use the file, but have some other way of accessing the output device. Strange as it sounds...

Oeyvind





> From: Victor Lazzarini [Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie]
> Sent: 2006-01-09 17:17:34 CET
> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Windows installer for Csound5.rc2
> 
> I have done this in November when you pointed out how old the DLL was;
> I have a 10 Nov 2005 dll. Would that do? It's up in
> 
> http://www.nuim.ie/academic/music/vlazzarini/tmp/portaudio.zip
> 
> Victor
> 
> At 15:58 09/01/2006, you wrote:
> >On Monday 09 January 2006 16:00, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >
> > > Is that because they are using different Portaudio DLLs? Depending on how
> > > the portaudio is built, it has different options of the three driver
> > > backends: MME, DirectX and ASIO.
> > > If you have two different portaudio DLLS, that's why. The should be
> > > interchangeable,so you can use whichever you want.
> > >
> > > I think the Windows release should have a portaudio DLL that supports
> > > everything but the
> > > kitchen sink.
> >
> >I included the PortAudio DLL file from your MSVC release. The last
> >time I tried building a Win32 version of PortAudio with MinGW, it
> >only allowed to select one interface - having MME, DirectSound, and
> >ASIO in a single DLL is only possible when building with MSVC, unless
> >the PortAudio developers have fixed this since then.
> >As you have MSVC, you could build a DLL from recent PortAudio sources
> >(the one currently available has a date of something like Oct 2004,
> >so it is somewhat outdated) for use in the Windows installers.
> >--
> >Send bugs reports to this list.
> >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 
> Victor Lazzarini
> Music Technology Laboratory
> Music Department
> National University of Ireland, Maynooth 
> 
> -- 
> Send bugs reports to this list.
> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
> 

My system is a bit crazy, because it had the modification date
to Oct 2004 and creation date to Nov 2005. Anyway, I changed it
to a different DLL which I'm sure is the one I made in Nov 2005, when
I downloaded a new tarball from the portaudio site.

Victor

At 11:51 10/01/2006, you wrote:
>On Monday 09 January 2006 17:17, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
> > I have done this in November when you pointed out how old the DLL was;
> > I have a 10 Nov 2005 dll. Would that do? It's up in
> >
> > http://www.nuim.ie/academic/music/vlazzarini/tmp/portaudio.zip
>
>It seems to be the same file from 2004.
>--
>Send bugs reports to this list.
>To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth