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[Csnd] csound editor survey

Date2008-04-20 22:25
From"Brad Fuller"
Subject[Csnd] csound editor survey
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Date2008-04-20 22:39
From"Bruce H. McCosar"
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound editor survey
I switch between editors, depending on what I'm doing.  I'll
arrange my responses in order of most common to least common:

1. Kate.

Plus: Excellent syntax highlighting -- even accommodates unified
csound files.  Vertical list of open files (as opposed to tabs)
saves a lot of aggravation for those of us who like to have more
than a dozen files open at once (mainly examples).

Minus: Can't do many tricks with it, unlike Vim.

2. Vim (Cream variety).

Plus: Is it an editor or a programming language?  All sorts of
amazing tricks can be run from within the editor, including mass
processing of lines through multiple shell commands.  It's kind
of like someone turned Perl loose inside WordStar.

Minus: Csound syntax files do not work well with Cream, or at
any rate I've not figured out how to get them to autoload or
file associate.

3. Scite.

I am used to Scite from Python programming.  So, oddly, if I'm
working on Csound in Kate (where I have tabs set as actual tab
characters), but need to do Python, I will open up Scite on
another desktop (where a tab = 4 spaces).  Python needs more
indents, so a full 8 spaces is aggravating; Csound needs nice
columns, especially for score files.  C'est la vie.

I'm sure I could figure this all out by editing configuration
files, but it's low priority compared to getting actual work
done.

--- Brad Fuller  wrote:

> What do you use to edit csound files? Looking to get a general
> survey
> of what editor you use, why you like it, and what issues you
> have with
> the particular editor.
> 
> thanks,
> brad


Date2008-04-20 23:08
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound editor survey
I've started using emacs and Csound-X although I only avail of the 
syntax highlighting. To run csound I use eshell and the command line. I 
use Lettuce with my students, but it's windows only. The thing I like 
about emacs is that it can pretty much anything at all.

Rory.


Brad Fuller wrote:
> What do you use to edit csound files? Looking to get a general survey
> of what editor you use, why you like it, and what issues you have with
> the particular editor.
> 
> thanks,
> brad
> 

Date2008-04-21 03:44
FromJacob Joaquin
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound editor survey
I use jEdit v4.2.

I like it because it's simple, I rarely have to touch a mouse, works great
with the various programming languages I code with, syntax highlighting, and
it's cross platform.  It's even possible to run Csound directly from jEdit
with a custom script:

http://www.nabble.com/Running-Csound-from-jEdit-p16392544.html

I don't have any serious issues with it.

Best,
Jake
---- 
The Csound Blog 
http://www.thumbuki.com/csound/blog/



Brad Fuller-5 wrote:
> 
> What do you use to edit csound files? Looking to get a general survey
> of what editor you use, why you like it, and what issues you have with
> the particular editor.
> 

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Date2008-04-21 08:08
FromStéphane Rollandin
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: csound editor survey
Rory Walsh a écrit :
> I've started using emacs and Csound-X although I only avail of the 
> syntax highlighting. To run csound I use eshell and the command line. I 
> use Lettuce with my students, but it's windows only. The thing I like 
> about emacs is that it can pretty much anything at all.
> 
> Rory.

I'm very surprised that you run emacs via eshell. what is wrong with the 
integrated csound-x process mechanism ?

Stef (always willing to improve what can be improved :)


Date2008-04-21 13:36
FromDave Seidel
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound editor survey
I'm on Windows.  I use blue as my primary environment, but I also use 
WinXound.  I love blue as a multi-faceted compositional tool, but the 
code editor is not as fully-featured as I'm used to in my day-to-day 
work as a programmer.  OTOH, neither is WinXound, though I find it more 
natural for editing.

I'd love to have a really well-implemented Csound editor in Eclipse. 
Never been able to really grok emacs, despite many attempts.  I've been 
meaning to try both jEdit and SciTE, both of which have been mentioned here.

- Dave

Brad Fuller wrote:
> What do you use to edit csound files? Looking to get a general survey
> of what editor you use, why you like it, and what issues you have with
> the particular editor.
> 
> thanks,
> brad
> 


Date2008-04-21 13:47
FromMichael Rhoades
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: csound editor survey
Just to put in my two cents...

I use WinXound for orchestra editing but use Excel for score editing. I 
enjoy that WinXound will allow me to have only an orchestra window open 
and save only an .orc file if I so choose. The text highlighting is 
great for easily seeing sections of the code. Excel is perfect for score 
editing as it allows for horizontal as well as vertical cell selection 
and therefore editing as well as the ability to apply formulas and 
macros to groups of cells.

Michael Rhoades
www.perceptionfactory.com
>
>
> Brad Fuller wrote:
>> What do you use to edit csound files? Looking to get a general survey
>> of what editor you use, why you like it, and what issues you have with
>> the particular editor.
>>
>> thanks,
>> brad
>>
>
>
>
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Date2008-04-21 18:08
FromDavidW
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: csound editor survey
I use MacCsound, vi, IDLE, TextEdit, approx. in that order, depending  
on what I'm doing.

David.



Date2008-04-21 19:20
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csound editor survey
The reason I don't avail of the other Csound-X tools is that I'm 
normally building an API application and working on a Csound instrument 
at the same time so I find it quicker to work between the text and the 
command line. To each his own I guess. Take it easy,

Rory.


Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
> Rory Walsh a écrit :
>> I've started using emacs and Csound-X although I only avail of the 
>> syntax highlighting. To run csound I use eshell and the command line. 
>> I use Lettuce with my students, but it's windows only. The thing I 
>> like about emacs is that it can pretty much anything at all.
>>
>> Rory.
> 
> I'm very surprised that you run emacs via eshell. what is wrong with the 
> integrated csound-x process mechanism ?
> 
> Stef (always willing to improve what can be improved :)
> 
> 
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Date2008-04-21 19:25
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csound editor survey
On the Macintosh, when teaching, I use MacCsound and the PPC version  
of Csound5.08,
Sometimes, I just use BBedit and TextWrangler - to zap gremlins  
especially, and when developing and
performing and using the latest Intel Native Csound5.08, I use  
Smultron with Pieman Koshravi's  opcode
syntax definition file and opcode hiliting, and his quick links to the
csound manual and wonderful .csd rendering shortcuts.   Smultron -  
with Pieman's trix works out really great.

(http://www.esnips.com/web/csound-smultron-utilities) named "Csound  
named "Csound
Utilities for Smultron_ improved version.zip".

-dB

On Apr 21, 2008, at 1:08 PM, DavidW wrote:

> I use MacCsound, vi, IDLE, TextEdit, approx. in that order,  
> depending on what I'm doing.
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
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Date2008-04-21 20:51
From"Brad Fuller"
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: csound editor survey
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Date2008-04-21 21:03
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject[Csnd] Re: csound editor survey
I am referring to Intel/Mac.

Smultron is great.  Check the mail archives...

-dB

On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>  wrote:
>> On the Macintosh, when teaching, I use MacCsound and the PPC  
>> version of
>> Csound5.08,
>>  Sometimes, I just use BBedit and TextWrangler - to zap gremlins  
>> especially,
>> and when developing and
>>  performing and using the latest Intel Native Csound5.08,
>
> Is this a special Csound? or are you referring to Intel/Mac?
>
>> I use Smultron
>> with Pieman Koshravi's  opcode
>>  syntax definition file and opcode hiliting, and his quick links  
>> to the
>>  csound manual and wonderful .csd rendering shortcuts.   Smultron  
>> - with
>> Pieman's trix works out really great.
>>
>>  (http://www.esnips.com/web/csound-smultron-utilities) named  
>> "Csound named
>> "Csound
>>  Utilities for Smultron_ improved version.zip".
>
> I've never heard of these. Are they only for the MAC?
>
> -- 
> Brad Fuller
> www.bradfuller.com
>
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Date2008-04-21 22:04
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: csound editor survey
Unfortunately yes, both Smultron and MacCsound run only on MACs. Blue is 
completely cross platform and as pointed out already extremely well 
supported.

Rory.


Brad Fuller wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>  wrote:
>> On the Macintosh, when teaching, I use MacCsound and the PPC version of
>> Csound5.08,
>>  Sometimes, I just use BBedit and TextWrangler - to zap gremlins especially,
>> and when developing and
>>  performing and using the latest Intel Native Csound5.08,
> 
> Is this a special Csound? or are you referring to Intel/Mac?
> 
>> I use Smultron
>> with Pieman Koshravi's  opcode
>>  syntax definition file and opcode hiliting, and his quick links to the
>>  csound manual and wonderful .csd rendering shortcuts.   Smultron - with
>> Pieman's trix works out really great.
>>
>>  (http://www.esnips.com/web/csound-smultron-utilities) named "Csound named
>> "Csound
>>  Utilities for Smultron_ improved version.zip".
> 
> I've never heard of these. Are they only for the MAC?
> 

Date2008-04-22 00:29
Frompeiman khosravi
Subject[Csnd] Re: Re: csound editor survey
Just watched Bergman's wild strawberries, Smultron means strawberry  
in swedish!!! I also use Smaltron if I'm not Blueing.

Best
Peiman


On 21 Apr 2008, at 21:03, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> I am referring to Intel/Mac.
>
> Smultron is great.  Check the mail archives...
>
> -dB
>
> On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>>  wrote:
>>> On the Macintosh, when teaching, I use MacCsound and the PPC  
>>> version of
>>> Csound5.08,
>>>  Sometimes, I just use BBedit and TextWrangler - to zap gremlins  
>>> especially,
>>> and when developing and
>>>  performing and using the latest Intel Native Csound5.08,
>>
>> Is this a special Csound? or are you referring to Intel/Mac?
>>
>>> I use Smultron
>>> with Pieman Koshravi's  opcode
>>>  syntax definition file and opcode hiliting, and his quick links  
>>> to the
>>>  csound manual and wonderful .csd rendering shortcuts.   Smultron  
>>> - with
>>> Pieman's trix works out really great.
>>>
>>>  (http://www.esnips.com/web/csound-smultron-utilities) named  
>>> "Csound named
>>> "Csound
>>>  Utilities for Smultron_ improved version.zip".
>>
>> I've never heard of these. Are they only for the MAC?
>>
>> -- 
>> Brad Fuller
>> www.bradfuller.com
>>
>>
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>
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