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Date2019-10-05 13:13
FromJamesEdwardCosby
Subject[Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi everyone, 

I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant trip home from the ICSC2019. It was
wonderful meeting you for sure.

One of the topics discussed during the conference was the lack of a
corporate I.D... In particular the lack of a meaningful logo to identify and
promote Csound within projects and hardware that use the language...

As both a sound and a graphic designer, and with this issue in mind, I have
designed a Csound Logo which I feel conveys the sprit of Csound.

The logo of course, contains the letter "C" but in the form of the musical
notation for the "Common Time Signature" to convey both "C" and Orchestral
Musical Scoring. It also contains a Digital Graphic depicting a Sound Wave
to represent both "Sound" and the "Digital Domain". These identities were
then combined into a graphic which at a distance resembles the human ear
which overall represents Listening...

I have attempted to make the logo as clean and simple as possible whilst
conveying the important ideas of the language, of course this is only a
suggestion but perhaps it is a starting point for discussion or the
submission of other ideas...

 

Here is the logo in-situ...

 


Many thanks for your time,
James.





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Date2019-10-05 13:25
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Thanks for this, James. I quite like it, very
nice looking.

Also the other thing I'd like to make sure,
alongside any logo, is that whenever the
name is mentioned the correct spelling is
used: Csound (not CSound or cSound).
I think it is important to be correct about it.

At some point, if the logo is well adopted,
it should just imply the name...



Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 5 Oct 2019, at 13:15, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant trip home from the ICSC2019. It was
> wonderful meeting you for sure.
> 
> One of the topics discussed during the conference was the lack of a
> corporate I.D... In particular the lack of a meaningful logo to identify and
> promote Csound within projects and hardware that use the language...
> 
> As both a sound and a graphic designer, and with this issue in mind, I have
> designed a Csound Logo which I feel conveys the sprit of Csound.
> 
> The logo of course, contains the letter "C" but in the form of the musical
> notation for the "Common Time Signature" to convey both "C" and Orchestral
> Musical Scoring. It also contains a Digital Graphic depicting a Sound Wave
> to represent both "Sound" and the "Digital Domain". These identities were
> then combined into a graphic which at a distance resembles the human ear
> which overall represents Listening...
> 
> I have attempted to make the logo as clean and simple as possible whilst
> conveying the important ideas of the language, of course this is only a
> suggestion but perhaps it is a starting point for discussion or the
> submission of other ideas...
> 
>  
> 
> Here is the logo in-situ...
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Many thanks for your time,
> James.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Date2019-10-05 13:37
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Beautiful 

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Oct 5, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this, James. I quite like it, very
> nice looking.
> 
> Also the other thing I'd like to make sure,
> alongside any logo, is that whenever the
> name is mentioned the correct spelling is
> used: Csound (not CSound or cSound).
> I think it is important to be correct about it.
> 
> At some point, if the logo is well adopted,
> it should just imply the name...
> 
> 
> 
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 5 Oct 2019, at 13:15, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> 
>> I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant trip home from the ICSC2019. It was
>> wonderful meeting you for sure.
>> 
>> One of the topics discussed during the conference was the lack of a
>> corporate I.D... In particular the lack of a meaningful logo to identify and
>> promote Csound within projects and hardware that use the language...
>> 
>> As both a sound and a graphic designer, and with this issue in mind, I have
>> designed a Csound Logo which I feel conveys the sprit of Csound.
>> 
>> The logo of course, contains the letter "C" but in the form of the musical
>> notation for the "Common Time Signature" to convey both "C" and Orchestral
>> Musical Scoring. It also contains a Digital Graphic depicting a Sound Wave
>> to represent both "Sound" and the "Digital Domain". These identities were
>> then combined into a graphic which at a distance resembles the human ear
>> which overall represents Listening...
>> 
>> I have attempted to make the logo as clean and simple as possible whilst
>> conveying the important ideas of the language, of course this is only a
>> suggestion but perhaps it is a starting point for discussion or the
>> submission of other ideas...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is the logo in-situ...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks for your time,
>> James.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Date2019-10-05 13:41
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
i like it, too.  simple but meaningful.  in case we get to an agreement 
about it, and the csound foundation is able to pay the honorarium for 
james, some variants would be good to have for the different situations:
- with or without "Csound"
- with colour as you did, and black on white, and white on black.

thanks for your work james!

	j



On 05/10/19 14:25, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Thanks for this, James. I quite like it, very
> nice looking.
>
> Also the other thing I'd like to make sure,
> alongside any logo, is that whenever the
> name is mentioned the correct spelling is
> used: Csound (not CSound or cSound).
> I think it is important to be correct about it.
>
> At some point, if the logo is well adopted,
> it should just imply the name...
>
>
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 5 Oct 2019, at 13:15, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant trip home from the ICSC2019. It was
>> wonderful meeting you for sure.
>>
>> One of the topics discussed during the conference was the lack of a
>> corporate I.D... In particular the lack of a meaningful logo to identify and
>> promote Csound within projects and hardware that use the language...
>>
>> As both a sound and a graphic designer, and with this issue in mind, I have
>> designed a Csound Logo which I feel conveys the sprit of Csound.
>>
>> The logo of course, contains the letter "C" but in the form of the musical
>> notation for the "Common Time Signature" to convey both "C" and Orchestral
>> Musical Scoring. It also contains a Digital Graphic depicting a Sound Wave
>> to represent both "Sound" and the "Digital Domain". These identities were
>> then combined into a graphic which at a distance resembles the human ear
>> which overall represents Listening...
>>
>> I have attempted to make the logo as clean and simple as possible whilst
>> conveying the important ideas of the language, of course this is only a
>> suggestion but perhaps it is a starting point for discussion or the
>> submission of other ideas...
>>
>> 
>>
>> Here is the logo in-situ...
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for your time,
>> James.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date2019-10-05 13:51
FromLeonardo Foletto
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Love it too!
I agree, there should be variants with/without the "Csound" text and black with transparent background.. 
Also another variant I'd like to propose: squared lines instead of rounded ones for the waveform (maybe a little less wide if they end up looking too bold that way?)
These are just some ideas..
 Love the concept behind it, very well thought out!


On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 8:41 AM joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
i like it, too.  simple but meaningful.  in case we get to an agreement
about it, and the csound foundation is able to pay the honorarium for
james, some variants would be good to have for the different situations:
- with or without "Csound"
- with colour as you did, and black on white, and white on black.

thanks for your work james!

        j



On 05/10/19 14:25, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Thanks for this, James. I quite like it, very
> nice looking.
>
> Also the other thing I'd like to make sure,
> alongside any logo, is that whenever the
> name is mentioned the correct spelling is
> used: Csound (not CSound or cSound).
> I think it is important to be correct about it.
>
> At some point, if the logo is well adopted,
> it should just imply the name...
>
>
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 5 Oct 2019, at 13:15, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope everyone had a safe and pleasant trip home from the ICSC2019. It was
>> wonderful meeting you for sure.
>>
>> One of the topics discussed during the conference was the lack of a
>> corporate I.D... In particular the lack of a meaningful logo to identify and
>> promote Csound within projects and hardware that use the language...
>>
>> As both a sound and a graphic designer, and with this issue in mind, I have
>> designed a Csound Logo which I feel conveys the sprit of Csound.
>>
>> The logo of course, contains the letter "C" but in the form of the musical
>> notation for the "Common Time Signature" to convey both "C" and Orchestral
>> Musical Scoring. It also contains a Digital Graphic depicting a Sound Wave
>> to represent both "Sound" and the "Digital Domain". These identities were
>> then combined into a graphic which at a distance resembles the human ear
>> which overall represents Listening...
>>
>> I have attempted to make the logo as clean and simple as possible whilst
>> conveying the important ideas of the language, of course this is only a
>> suggestion but perhaps it is a starting point for discussion or the
>> submission of other ideas...
>>
>> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/AEBB5CF0-4ADA-40EA-A5FA-538661D828BD.png>
>>
>> Here is the logo in-situ...
>>
>> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/43372D19-6297-4623-B5F3-1881565A6689.png>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for your time,
>> James.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date2019-10-05 14:08
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Yes indeed, whatever logo is adopted, there undoubtedly will be an interim
period for the graphic to become synonymous... The following is the "long"
version of my proposed design with "sound" included. The long version of any
logo can be always present on the main website thus cementing the attachment
between full title and representative logo...

James.

 



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Date2019-10-05 14:18
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I have reserved a dropbox folder to contain the hi-res graphics, they can be
made available as any foreground colour on transparent background or indeed
any background colour required.

Here is the link...

Dropbox Folder...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0

I can also "square off" the digital wave to compare...



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Date2019-10-05 14:20
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
love it with and without the "sound" part.,  nice to have both ways.
_____________________________________________
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Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)
______________________________________________


On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:09 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
I have reserved a dropbox folder to contain the hi-res graphics, they can be
made available as any foreground colour on transparent background or indeed
any background colour required.

Here is the link...

Dropbox Folder...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0

I can also "square off" the digital wave to compare...



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Date2019-10-05 14:27
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Squared wave White on Black...

 



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Date2019-10-05 14:30
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
It's very good indeed

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

On 5 Oct 2019, at 14:20, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@ndee.edu> wrote:

love it with and without the "sound" part.,  nice to have both ways.
_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)
______________________________________________
______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58



On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:09 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
I have reserved a dropbox folder to contain the hi-res graphics, they can be
made available as any foreground colour on transparent background or indeed
any background colour required.

Here is the link...

Dropbox Folder...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0

I can also "square off" the digital wave to compare...



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Date2019-10-05 14:32
FromLeonardo Foletto
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I think it could be nice to keep all these different versions, since the differences are subtle, so that everyone can adopt the one they prefer. Liked the squared one a lot! Thanks for your work, James!

Leo

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
love it with and without the "sound" part.,  nice to have both ways.
_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)
______________________________________________


On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:09 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
I have reserved a dropbox folder to contain the hi-res graphics, they can be
made available as any foreground colour on transparent background or indeed
any background colour required.

Here is the link...

Dropbox Folder...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0

I can also "square off" the digital wave to compare...



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Date2019-10-05 14:42
FromHlöðver Sigurðsson
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
It's very fine logo but does it attract young people (now I sound like an old man thinking about how the youth thinks). But how does a call for a logo competition sound like, anonymous submissions and vote from the community? I'd like to try some wild ideas myself :)

Thanks for sharing James!

On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 15:32, Leonardo Foletto <lfoletto@berklee.edu> wrote:
I think it could be nice to keep all these different versions, since the differences are subtle, so that everyone can adopt the one they prefer. Liked the squared one a lot! Thanks for your work, James!

Leo

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
love it with and without the "sound" part.,  nice to have both ways.
_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)
______________________________________________


On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:09 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
I have reserved a dropbox folder to contain the hi-res graphics, they can be
made available as any foreground colour on transparent background or indeed
any background colour required.

Here is the link...

Dropbox Folder...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0

I can also "square off" the digital wave to compare...



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Date2019-10-05 15:28
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Yes the original idea is actually a "Call for Graphics" and I am proffering
this idea as a starting point...

I have placed the following eight hi-res .png versions of this idea in the
dropbox folder...

Logo only...
White on Transparent Background
Black on Transparent Background
White on Black Background
Black on White Background

Logo + "sound"
White on Transparent Background
Black on Transparent Background
White on Black Background
Black on White Background

(**The White foreground on transparent background png files will appear
invisible when viewed on a white background but when imported can be placed
over any background of choice)

Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0





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Date2019-10-05 16:31
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I like this logo very much (especially appreciate all the formats) and would be very happy to encourage others to share their design ideas as well.  

I am not sure that the logo has a "goal" other than that it should identify that Csound is under the hood!  That this app is empowered with Csound inside.

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Oct 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
> 
> Yes the original idea is actually a "Call for Graphics" and I am proffering
> this idea as a starting point...
> 
> I have placed the following eight hi-res .png versions of this idea in the
> dropbox folder...
> 
> Logo only...
> White on Transparent Background
> Black on Transparent Background
> White on Black Background
> Black on White Background
> 
> Logo + "sound"
> White on Transparent Background
> Black on Transparent Background
> White on Black Background
> Black on White Background
> 
> (**The White foreground on transparent background png files will appear
> invisible when viewed on a white background but when imported can be placed
> over any background of choice)
> 
> Dropbox
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9tv7secgipo3qz1/AADxGsMnsFqQPqgok-goE_oNa?dl=0
> 
> 
> 
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Date2019-10-05 16:56
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Thanks everyone for the great feedback, I hope this is a good starting point.
I am very much looking forward to seeing all the other ideas. :0)

James.





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Date2019-10-05 17:29
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Wonderful initiative and contribution, John, thanks a lot!!

To me it looks good and clear. I think it must definitely  read "Csound", C with the wave remains just C. C + wave + sound - seems very good to me!

Thanks!
tarmo

Kontakt JamesEdwardCosby (<jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>) kirjutas kuupäeval L, 5. oktoober 2019 kell 18:48:
Thanks everyone for the great feedback, I hope this is a good starting point.
I am very much looking forward to seeing all the other ideas. :0)

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Date2019-10-06 07:08
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Date2019-10-06 08:39
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 14:41
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
AttachmentsCsound_Suggestion.jpg  
Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 15:05
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Cool suggestion Marijana

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On Oct 6, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Marijana Janevska <marijana.janevska90@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 15:12
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi,

And I would encourage also other ideas and approaches! Would be nice to see also other candidates.

Tarmo

P, 6. oktoober 2019 17:05 Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> kirjutas:
Cool suggestion Marijana

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Professor
Electronic Production and Design
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On Oct 6, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Marijana Janevska <marijana.janevska90@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 15:21
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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There was a similar discussion a while ago, which didn’t really lead anywhere, so I am happy the question has been raised again!
I had an ugly example of a design, but I really like the one James presented. 

A part of the previous discussion is included below for reference. 

Regards,
Anders

Like this?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I like the idea, maybe we can put a hyperbolic tangent instead of a sine, to make it an ’s’?
========================
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> On 16 Aug 2016, at 15:29, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I attach a very hastily rendered (Go GNU Octave, yay!) version of what I mentioned before, but with a generic circular arc as the (capital) C.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:51 PM, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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Date2019-10-06 15:23
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I was thinking the exact same thing!
I like it!

Regards,
Anders

6 okt. 2019 kl. 15:41 skrev Marijana Janevska <marijana.janevska90@gmail.com>:

Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 15:25
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I'm not sure about writing words with the sound wave. It's too complex. Logos/icons should be as simple as possible. I think adding sound to the waveform is overkill. I do like the logo James proposed. I would rather a different font, something a little more code like, but it's by far the best logo I've seen anyone propose thus far. And I'm hardly surprised considering how great his apps look!

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 15:21, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
There was a similar discussion a while ago, which didn’t really lead anywhere, so I am happy the question has been raised again!
I had an ugly example of a design, but I really like the one James presented. 

A part of the previous discussion is included below for reference. 

Regards,
Anders

Like this?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I like the idea, maybe we can put a hyperbolic tangent instead of a sine, to make it an ’s’?
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 16 Aug 2016, at 15:29, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I attach a very hastily rendered (Go GNU Octave, yay!) version of what I mentioned before, but with a generic circular arc as the (capital) C.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:51 PM, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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6 okt. 2019 kl. 16:12 skrev Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com>:

Hi,

And I would encourage also other ideas and approaches! Would be nice to see also other candidates.

Tarmo

P, 6. oktoober 2019 17:05 Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> kirjutas:
Cool suggestion Marijana

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

On Oct 6, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Marijana Janevska <marijana.janevska90@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 18:14
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
FYI

Csound isn't going corporate... I hope :-)

At the conference, I raised the issue for a need for this symbol/icon because there are so many great apps, plugins, etc... that feature Csound under the hood and most of my students have no idea... unless they read the fine print in the about or credits.

And even then...

As I was walking through the airport there were cars in the corridors (for sale and to promote them I guess) and when I saw the crest or the logo I knew in an instant that this was a new 2020 SAAB or VOLVO or BMW

Now... (hopefully) when you use an app or a plugin, you might see the logo and know... "this is Csound!"


Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

On Oct 6, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

I'm not sure about writing words with the sound wave. It's too complex. Logos/icons should be as simple as possible. I think adding sound to the waveform is overkill. I do like the logo James proposed. I would rather a different font, something a little more code like, but it's by far the best logo I've seen anyone propose thus far. And I'm hardly surprised considering how great his apps look!

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 15:21, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
There was a similar discussion a while ago, which didn’t really lead anywhere, so I am happy the question has been raised again!
I had an ugly example of a design, but I really like the one James presented. 

A part of the previous discussion is included below for reference. 

Regards,
Anders

Like this?


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I like the idea, maybe we can put a hyperbolic tangent instead of a sine, to make it an ’s’?
========================
Dr Victor Lazzarini
Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies and Philosophy,
Maynooth University,
Maynooth, Co Kildare, Ireland
Tel: 00 353 7086936
Fax: 00 353 1 7086952

> On 16 Aug 2016, at 15:29, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I attach a very hastily rendered (Go GNU Octave, yay!) version of what I mentioned before, but with a generic circular arc as the (capital) C.
>
> Regards,
> Anders
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:51 PM, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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6 okt. 2019 kl. 16:12 skrev Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com>:

Hi,

And I would encourage also other ideas and approaches! Would be nice to see also other candidates.

Tarmo

P, 6. oktoober 2019 17:05 Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> kirjutas:
Cool suggestion Marijana

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

On Oct 6, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Marijana Janevska <marijana.janevska90@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I like the logo very much! It is beautiful and simple.Thank you for your work James! And since it is an issue if it should be with or without "sound", I was thinking that maybe you can try to incorporate "sound" in the wave, It is already kind of there, it needs only slight modifications... And I am sorry for the bad drawing attached, I am no designer, this is just a suggestion... I am sure you can do a much better version of this, and please do if you find it interesting.

Best,
Marijana





On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes I’m sure it wouldn’t be a problem to create a vector render of the logo
though this design has not been formally adopted as an official logo, thus
far it is merely a suggestion.

I would definitely agree that the logo which will be eventually chosen
should be made available in multiple formats to best suit everyone’s needs.

The chosen logo should also be registered etc to prevent  misappropriation.



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Date2019-10-06 20:42
Fromjohn
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019, Rory Walsh wrote:

> I'm not sure about writing words with the sound wave. It's too complex.
> Logos/icons should be as simple as possible. I think adding sound to the
> waveform is overkill. I do like the logo James proposed. I would rather a
> different font, something a little more code like, but it's by far the best
> logo I've seen anyone propose thus far. And I'm hardly surprised considering
> how great his apps look!
>

(late to the party as ever..)

I agree with Rory.  I liked the simplicity and the two versions with and 
without the "sound".  I am not a visual person so mt y opinion has little 
weight but  I feel on could recognise the original James-logo with little 
effort if it were used everywhere.   I think it is the best proposal we 
have seen over many cycles.  Hope we can adopt it.

Just my 2 farthings wort

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Date2019-10-06 20:51
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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Date2019-10-07 01:12
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Taking a lot of the suggestions on board, I have incorporated them into a
single idea.

This version is two colour but could easily be made monochrome. Rather than
using a standard font I have designed the individual letters of "sound" in a
modern style...

How does everyone feel this compares to the original?

 

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Date2019-10-07 01:18
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Here are both the monochrome and the inverted monochrome versions...

 

 

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Date2019-10-07 01:50
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Date2019-10-07 01:59
FromDave Seidel
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I like these!

On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 8:10 PM JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Here are both the monochrome and the inverted monochrome versions...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/A90348AF-CEEE-46DE-9ECB-18E2C76D2707.png>

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/8BA0E1C9-FDEA-4B64-85E6-09213DDCCED1.png>

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Date2019-10-07 02:40
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Ok if it helps the visualisation...
here are some other variations...

Colour: Black Background White foreground cyan waveform
 


Monochrome: Black Background White foreground grey waveform
 


Colour: White Background Black foreground cyan waveform
 


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Date2019-10-07 07:46
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Date2019-10-07 09:04
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi James, I wonder could you humour me and try a simpler C in your latest designs? I understand the significance of the C you have chosen, but would like to see how it looks with an even simpler C ;) I'm also wondering if other people here might have some ideas but, due to a lack of design skills, are afraid to propose them? If people had some ideas, would you mind terribly helping them to try to realise them? The more we have to choose from the better right?

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 07:47, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!

I saved those, ready to use. If other porposals will not come up, maybe we have it then?  What happens next? Will they go to Csound website somewhere with suggestion to use them on software using Csound?

greetings,
tarmo

On Oct 7 2019, at 4:40 am, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Ok if it helps the visualisation...
here are some other variations...

Colour: Black Background White foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: Black Background White foreground grey waveform


Colour: White Background Black foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: White Background Black foreground grey waveform





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Date2019-10-07 09:17
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
As C in Csound refers to being written in C language, maybe the logo C could be based on the K&R book cover C?


Regard,
Anders

7 okt. 2019 kl. 10:04 skrev Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>:

Hi James, I wonder could you humour me and try a simpler C in your latest designs? I understand the significance of the C you have chosen, but would like to see how it looks with an even simpler C ;) I'm also wondering if other people here might have some ideas but, due to a lack of design skills, are afraid to propose them? If people had some ideas, would you mind terribly helping them to try to realise them? The more we have to choose from the better right?

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 07:47, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!

I saved those, ready to use. If other porposals will not come up, maybe we have it then?  What happens next? Will they go to Csound website somewhere with suggestion to use them on software using Csound?

greetings,
tarmo

On Oct 7 2019, at 4:40 am, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Ok if it helps the visualisation...
here are some other variations...

Colour: Black Background White foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: Black Background White foreground grey waveform


Colour: White Background Black foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: White Background Black foreground grey waveform





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Date2019-10-07 10:03
FromJohann Philippe <000002c2c0737523-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE>
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi all, 
Thanks James for this very interesting work, it's nice ! I think my favorite is the white background with blue waveform.
Though I agree I would prefer the C programming language "C".
One last thing about the "sound", is that perheaps the wave in the background could be only around the "sound", but not inside (just by deleting the inside part) ? It could be more clear, easy to read ?
I don't have any design skills though, those ideas are just proposal. Thank for this work !
Johann Philippe

Le lundi 7 octobre 2019 à 10:17:18 UTC+2, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> a écrit :


As C in Csound refers to being written in C language, maybe the logo C could be based on the K&R book cover C?


Regard,
Anders

7 okt. 2019 kl. 10:04 skrev Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie>:

Hi James, I wonder could you humour me and try a simpler C in your latest designs? I understand the significance of the C you have chosen, but would like to see how it looks with an even simpler C ;) I'm also wondering if other people here might have some ideas but, due to a lack of design skills, are afraid to propose them? If people had some ideas, would you mind terribly helping them to try to realise them? The more we have to choose from the better right?

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 07:47, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks!

I saved those, ready to use. If other porposals will not come up, maybe we have it then?  What happens next? Will they go to Csound website somewhere with suggestion to use them on software using Csound?

greetings,
tarmo

On Oct 7 2019, at 4:40 am, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Ok if it helps the visualisation...
here are some other variations...

Colour: Black Background White foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: Black Background White foreground grey waveform


Colour: White Background Black foreground cyan waveform


Monochrome: White Background Black foreground grey waveform





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Date2019-10-07 10:29
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Yes I am happy to show the look of any idea...

Here is the simple font "C" you have suggested set at the same point size...

 


And with a little editing...

 


I certainly understand your thinking. From a design point of view, it
suggests the original book cover was designed to be as BOLD as the editing
software of the time allowed as the idea was to thrust the letter "C"
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Date2019-10-07 10:30
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I really like the second one with little editing. It might be a bit more "raw", though I like this !
I also think it's even easier to recognize.
Johann

Le lundi 7 octobre 2019 à 11:20:59 UTC+2, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@JECDESIGN.COM> a écrit :


Yes I am happy to show the look of any idea...

Here is the simple font "C" you have suggested set at the same point size...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/BECED69B-7045-4A4E-891A-D49DB2920BF2.png>


And with a little editing...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/229E276E-5EA9-4EA3-ADE4-F5A4D7E74B01.png>


I certainly understand your thinking. From a design point of view, it
suggests the original book cover was designed to be as BOLD as the editing
software of the time allowed as the idea was to thrust the letter "C"
forward as much as possible.





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Date2019-10-07 10:31
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
The original "C", with its evident reference to the notation of common 
time, gave the impression of csound being related to music, which is an 
important asset. The fact that most of Csound is written in c is of 
little relevance for the user and the typographic references to 
programming literature don't seem to promote an opening to a wider user 
base. I do like the clunkyness of that "pacman" big "C" eating the sound 
though, but then, it looks more like an accident than a deliberate 
decission.


---

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On 07.10.19 11:29, JamesEdwardCosby wrote:
> Yes I am happy to show the look of any idea...
>
> Here is the simple font "C" you have suggested set at the same point size...
>
> 
>
>
> And with a little editing...
>
> 
>
>
> I certainly understand your thinking. From a design point of view, it
> suggests the original book cover was designed to be as BOLD as the editing
> software of the time allowed as the idea was to thrust the letter "C"
> forward as much as possible.
>
>
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Date2019-10-07 10:35
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I very much like the second one too. It's nice to have a few which we can choose from ;) I like the link between sound and music in the first, but I'm still leaning towards the simplest version. 

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:31, Eduardo Moguillansky <eduardo.moguillansky@gmail.com> wrote:
The original "C", with its evident reference to the notation of common
time, gave the impression of csound being related to music, which is an
important asset. The fact that most of Csound is written in c is of
little relevance for the user and the typographic references to
programming literature don't seem to promote an opening to a wider user
base. I do like the clunkyness of that "pacman" big "C" eating the sound
though, but then, it looks more like an accident than a deliberate
decission.


---

eduardo


On 07.10.19 11:29, JamesEdwardCosby wrote:
> Yes I am happy to show the look of any idea...
>
> Here is the simple font "C" you have suggested set at the same point size...
>
> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/BECED69B-7045-4A4E-891A-D49DB2920BF2.png>
>
>
> And with a little editing...
>
> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/229E276E-5EA9-4EA3-ADE4-F5A4D7E74B01.png>
>
>
> I certainly understand your thinking. From a design point of view, it
> suggests the original book cover was designed to be as BOLD as the editing
> software of the time allowed as the idea was to thrust the letter "C"
> forward as much as possible.
>
>
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Date2019-10-07 10:42
FromAnders Genell
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I wonder if the reference to musical notation in the original ”C” could be emphasized by adding five horizontal lines as in a musical score to the left of the “C”?
The combination with a digital sound wave representation would then be a nice link between music, C and sound. 

Just a thought. 

Regards,
Anders

> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 11:31 skrev Eduardo Moguillansky :
> 
> The original "C", with its evident reference to the notation of common time, gave the impression of csound being related to music, which is an important asset. The fact that most of Csound is written in c is of little relevance for the user and the typographic references to programming literature don't seem to promote an opening to a wider user base. I do like the clunkyness of that "pacman" big "C" eating the sound though, but then, it looks more like an accident than a deliberate decission.
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> eduardo
> 
> 
>> On 07.10.19 11:29, JamesEdwardCosby wrote:
>> Yes I am happy to show the look of any idea...
>> 
>> Here is the simple font "C" you have suggested set at the same point size...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And with a little editing...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I certainly understand your thinking. From a design point of view, it
>> suggests the original book cover was designed to be as BOLD as the editing
>> software of the time allowed as the idea was to thrust the letter "C"
>> forward as much as possible.
>> 
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Date2019-10-07 11:12
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
The mere fact that you thought of "Pacman" shows the importance of
"ownership" and how powerful even a single shape can be, the "Pacman" is now
so universal that even a bold letter "C" originally scripted hundreds of
years ago has been usurped by a meaningful graphic of a video game
character!

So from a design point of view whether a logo is being designed for a
multi-national corporation, for an extra curriculum school club or indeed
any other individual or organisation, the same important factors must
persist. Whilst the logo must be aesthetically pleasing to the vast majority
of the target audience, this is not enough, it must be simple, minimal,
professional, polished and convey trust, and the essence of and esteemed
values inherent in the organisation it represents. It needs to be flexible
to allow for constraints "with or without" text, McDonalds is a prime
example of this, the Arches are not only a gateway but look like an "M" for
MacDonalds thus the name itself does not even need to be present.

So with this in mind, I am 100% confident this can be achieved, however long
it takes, the right logo will be worth waiting for! :0)



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Date2019-10-07 11:55
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music Press" feel
as a result of the staff.

 





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Date2019-10-07 11:56
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Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties. 
Thank you, James!

Regards,
Anders

> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
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> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
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Date2019-10-07 12:29
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
========================
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> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties. 
> Thank you, James!
> 
> Regards,
> Anders
> 
>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
>> 
>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
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>> as a result of the staff.
>> 
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Date2019-10-07 12:33
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
For me, the first idea is best so far!  But I am loving the exploration, variations, and alternatives.

Dr. Richard Boulanger
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> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> 
> I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
> ========================
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> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties. 
>> Thank you, James!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>> 
>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
>>> 
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Date2019-10-07 13:19
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Well everyone, It certainly seems like we have a definite direction so here
is a low resolution montage of the black/white and worded/unworded design
which seems to be most popular...

A short recap about the graphical ideas it contains...

The "C" is the "C" and font used in Common Time notation representing Music.
Both "Sound" and the Digital realm are represented by a Digital Waveform
Graphic.
The "C" is squeezing the Digital Waveform suggesting the Manipulation of
Sound via "C"
The Form of the "C" together with the specially designed Digital Wave's
Shape was designed to resemble a human ear. The worded variant also shows
sound entering the "ear".

 





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Date2019-10-07 13:39
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi,
Great work, thanks! and nice discussions too.
I do agree that it would be good to explore some variations still, before settling on the version we will use in the years to come. The impression I get from the logo is largely determined by the shape and design of the C itself. For me, I think that the first version has somewhat too much of an ornament that tips the scales in the direction of traditional musical notation. And, even if music traditionally has been noted on a system of five lines etc., there is nothing in Csound that uses this notation, and a lot of the music we make would be much harder to make with this notation than with other means, haha.
Still, the heavy C (pacman) is perhaps a bit too heavy.
What about the style used in the cS logo that is now on the web page? https://csound.com/ 
It would not have to be that exact font, but I think it points to a level of simplicity that would be good for a logo.

all best
Oeyvind

man. 7. okt. 2019 kl. 14:11 skrev JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>:
Well everyone, It certainly seems like we have a definite direction so here
is a low resolution montage of the black/white and worded/unworded design
which seems to be most popular...

A short recap about the graphical ideas it contains...

The "C" is the "C" and font used in Common Time notation representing Music.
Both "Sound" and the Digital realm are represented by a Digital Waveform
Graphic.
The "C" is squeezing the Digital Waveform suggesting the Manipulation of
Sound via "C"
The Form of the "C" together with the specially designed Digital Wave's
Shape was designed to resemble a human ear. The worded variant also shows
sound entering the "ear".

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/D39B6412-315A-4637-90B3-94D6208E5B80.png>





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Date2019-10-07 13:53
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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On Oct 7, 2019, 12:30, at 12:30, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>========================
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>
>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really
>add to the “message” as such...
>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties. 
>> Thank you, James!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>> 
>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby
>:
>>> 
>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel
>sine
>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music
>Press" feel
>>> as a result of the staff.
>>> 
>>>
>
>
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Date2019-10-07 14:39
FromJason Hallen
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I'd echo what Oeyvind and Rory have said about the typography of the C.  To me, the Common Time symbol feels a little old-timey with the italicization, ornamental circle shape on top, and widening and tapering of the line.  This symbol has a long and meaningful history, so I wouldn't critique its visual design in a musical notation context.  For the Csound logo, however, my opinion is that the logo should look very modern stylistically.  It should give people the sense that Csound is a contemporary language with contemporary applications.  To that end, I'd advocate for a more modern looking C.  I really like the idea of the sound wave coming out of the C, and I also like the option of including the word "sound" as an option.  Overlaying the word "sound" on top of the wave is visually busy, so that might need to be finessed to avoid busyness.

This a really exciting design process to follow.  Thanks James for all your work on this!

Jason

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 7:53 AM John ff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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On Oct 7, 2019, 12:30, at 12:30, Victor Lazzarini <victor.lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>========================
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>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really
>add to the “message” as such...
>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties.
>> Thank you, James!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>>
>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby
><jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>:
>>>
>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel
>sine
>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music
>Press" feel
>>> as a result of the staff.
>>>
>>>
><http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/693B7F4D-3FB7-41C5-B78F-9A4CDBCDDB89.png>
>
>>>
>>>
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Date2019-10-07 15:10
FromHector Centeno
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
It's a very nice looking logo but I agree about the need of a more modern looking C. Using a traditional musical notation sign brings up heavy historical and symbolic connotations that might be too heavy to attach to the logo, particularly since Csound is so flexible and can be used in very wide contexts that are not necessarily identified with music (e.g. sound processing and filtering, sound design, sound art that not necessarily identifies with traditional music, etc.). Just my thoughts.

Cheers,

Hector

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:40 AM Jason Hallen <hallenj@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd echo what Oeyvind and Rory have said about the typography of the C.  To me, the Common Time symbol feels a little old-timey with the italicization, ornamental circle shape on top, and widening and tapering of the line.  This symbol has a long and meaningful history, so I wouldn't critique its visual design in a musical notation context.  For the Csound logo, however, my opinion is that the logo should look very modern stylistically.  It should give people the sense that Csound is a contemporary language with contemporary applications.  To that end, I'd advocate for a more modern looking C.  I really like the idea of the sound wave coming out of the C, and I also like the option of including the word "sound" as an option.  Overlaying the word "sound" on top of the wave is visually busy, so that might need to be finessed to avoid busyness.

This a really exciting design process to follow.  Thanks James for all your work on this!

Jason

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 7:53 AM John ff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
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On Oct 7, 2019, 12:30, at 12:30, Victor Lazzarini <victor.lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>========================
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>Maynooth University
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>
>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really
>add to the “message” as such...
>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties.
>> Thank you, James!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anders
>>
>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby
><jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>:
>>>
>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel
>sine
>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music
>Press" feel
>>> as a result of the staff.
>>>
>>>
><http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/693B7F4D-3FB7-41C5-B78F-9A4CDBCDDB89.png>
>
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Date2019-10-07 17:07
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Replacing the scripted C with a graphically simple shape...

 

It does abandon the "tie" to musical notation but is modern and elegant...



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Date2019-10-07 17:26
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Again, I think the first idea was more original and elegant. 

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> On 7 Oct 2019, at 16:59, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
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> Replacing the scripted C with a graphically simple shape...
> 
>  
> 
> It does abandon the "tie" to musical notation but is modern and elegant...
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Date2019-10-07 17:33
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An alternative C shape...

 





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Date2019-10-07 17:38
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I just did a quick browse on Google Fonts.  Here's a selection of the kind of C's I'm thinking of.  These are similar to the C currently used in the logo on the csound.com website that Oeyvind referred to earlier.

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Merriweather

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:26 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
Again, I think the first idea was more original and elegant.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
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> On 7 Oct 2019, at 16:59, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
>
> Replacing the scripted C with a graphically simple shape...
>
> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/E33368E5-926D-471E-B587-C6CA19425880.png>
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> It does abandon the "tie" to musical notation but is modern and elegant...
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Date2019-10-07 18:01
Fromjohn
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I was just sayong the same toa myslf

+1


On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> Again, I think the first idea was more original and elegant.
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
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>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 16:59, JamesEdwardCosby  wrote:
>>
>> Replacing the scripted C with a graphically simple shape...
>>
>> 
>>
>> It does abandon the "tie" to musical notation but is modern and elegant...
>>
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Date2019-10-07 18:02
FromRory Walsh
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I like this one too. The inside of the C could be an ear 😂 

On Mon 7 Oct 2019, 19:47 JamesEdwardCosby, <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Trying another alternative...

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Date2019-10-07 18:56
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Trying another alternative...

 






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Date2019-10-07 19:08
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Could the classic GNU Unifont be used as an inspiration for the ”C” in one version, just to see what that would look like?

Regards,
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> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 19:56 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
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> Trying another alternative...
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Date2019-10-07 19:32
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Date2019-10-07 20:00
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I think the problem with the other ones is that they are not as distinct as the first idea.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
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> On 7 Oct 2019, at 19:32, pete.goodeve@COMPUTER.ORG  wrote:
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>> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:26:01PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Again, I think the first idea was more original and elegant. 
>> 
> I fully agree.  I don't see anything wrong with a bit of elegance!
> "Modern" doean't have to mean "Stark".
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Date2019-10-07 20:02
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
same for me.  to give some reasons / associations:

1. the first version C was not only associated to the 4/4 sign, but also 
as mirrored comma.  this gave the impression for me like "no 
separation".  and for me, it also simply worked as an image (the "C" was 
different but not too different).

2. i don't like the five lines symbol, because in electronic music we go 
far beyond this was of thinking and creating music.  and contrary to the 
"C" symbol, which opens the space to the past but also to something 
else, the lines are only a symbol and reduction.

so i vote for the versions james sent here:
http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/D39B6412-315A-4637-90B3-94D6208E5B80.png

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On 07/10/19 13:33, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
> For me, the first idea is best so far!  But I am loving the exploration, variations, and alternatives.
>
> Dr. Richard Boulanger
> Professor
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>
>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>
>> I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>> ========================
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
>>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties.
>>> Thank you, James!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anders
>>>
>>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
>>>>
>>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
>>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music Press" feel
>>>> as a result of the staff.
>>>>
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Date2019-10-07 20:16
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Regarding all different versions so far, I agree that the first is the best. 
I like the one without “sound” spelled out in the logotype best. The sound wave is the representation of “sound”. If needed, perhaps “Csound” could be spelled out below the logo?

If another font for the “C” is to be used I think it should have the same dimensional relationship to the sound wave as the first one do. Maybe that could be achieved with one of the google fonts as well as with the original one, if that is preferred. 

Regards,
Anders


> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 21:02 skrev joachim heintz :
> 
> same for me.  to give some reasons / associations:
> 
> 1. the first version C was not only associated to the 4/4 sign, but also as mirrored comma.  this gave the impression for me like "no separation".  and for me, it also simply worked as an image (the "C" was different but not too different).
> 
> 2. i don't like the five lines symbol, because in electronic music we go far beyond this was of thinking and creating music.  and contrary to the "C" symbol, which opens the space to the past but also to something else, the lines are only a symbol and reduction.
> 
> so i vote for the versions james sent here:
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/D39B6412-315A-4637-90B3-94D6208E5B80.png
> 
>    j
> 
> 
> 
>> On 07/10/19 13:33, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
>> For me, the first idea is best so far!  But I am loving the exploration, variations, and alternatives.
>> 
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> Professor
>> Electronic Production and Design
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>>> ========================
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
>>>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties.
>>>> Thank you, James!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>> 
>>>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby :
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
>>>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music Press" feel
>>>>> as a result of the staff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Date2019-10-07 20:33
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi,

I insist "Csound" being readable.

Tarmo

E, 7. oktoober 2019 22:17 Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> kirjutas:
Regarding all different versions so far, I agree that the first is the best.
I like the one without “sound” spelled out in the logotype best. The sound wave is the representation of “sound”. If needed, perhaps “Csound” could be spelled out below the logo?

If another font for the “C” is to be used I think it should have the same dimensional relationship to the sound wave as the first one do. Maybe that could be achieved with one of the google fonts as well as with the original one, if that is preferred.

Regards,
Anders


> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 21:02 skrev joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de>:
>
> same for me.  to give some reasons / associations:
>
> 1. the first version C was not only associated to the 4/4 sign, but also as mirrored comma.  this gave the impression for me like "no separation".  and for me, it also simply worked as an image (the "C" was different but not too different).
>
> 2. i don't like the five lines symbol, because in electronic music we go far beyond this was of thinking and creating music.  and contrary to the "C" symbol, which opens the space to the past but also to something else, the lines are only a symbol and reduction.
>
> so i vote for the versions james sent here:
> http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/D39B6412-315A-4637-90B3-94D6208E5B80.png
>
>    j
>
>
>
>> On 07/10/19 13:33, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
>> For me, the first idea is best so far!  But I am loving the exploration, variations, and alternatives.
>>
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> Professor
>> Electronic Production and Design
>> Berklee College of Music
>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the original idea is still the killer idea, simple and elegant.
>>> ========================
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>>> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:56, Anders Genell <anders.genell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, now that I see it I think it gets a bit busy and doesn’t really add to the “message” as such...
>>>> Well, as Rory says, it’s good to explore different varieties.
>>>> Thank you, James!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Anders
>>>>
>>>>> 7 okt. 2019 kl. 12:55 skrev JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> In this example the Staff has been added and reshaped into parallel sine
>>>>> waves although it adds to the complexity and has a more "Music Press" feel
>>>>> as a result of the staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/693B7F4D-3FB7-41C5-B78F-9A4CDBCDDB89.png>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Date2019-10-07 22:37
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As requested, the GNU Font... Has that 80's retro feel...

 



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Date2019-10-07 22:53
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We also need to make sure this logo works as an app icon. So anything complex will not translate.

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 22:29, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
As requested, the GNU Font... Has that 80's retro feel...

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Date2019-10-08 00:32
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Great to hear the ideas, and it has been fun to realise each. The original
seems most popular but not quite 100% so simplifying the C and improving the
legibility of the optional text by improved placement and font is this
nearer the target?

 

Or more a more modern font perhaps...

 





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Date2019-10-08 00:47
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Date2019-10-08 00:52
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Date2019-10-08 04:57
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Date2019-10-08 05:01
FromTarmo Johannes
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I agree, for an icon, simplified view is good.
Tarmo

T, 8. oktoober 2019 06:57 Pete Goodeve <pete.goodeve@computer.org> kirjutas:
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:52:09PM -0700, pete.goodeve@COMPUTER.ORG wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:53:36PM +0100, Rory Walsh wrote:
> > We also need to make sure this logo works as an app icon. So anything
> > complex will not translate.
> >
> This is important for me, too, as I said earlier.  I've played a bit with making
> an icon for Haiku out of the original.  I think it works reasonably, thoguh has
> trouble at the smallest (16x16) size.
>
Just for transparency, to indicate what I'm thinking of, here's my
attempted Haiku icon.  The middle one is the 'standard' size (32x32);
the smallest one is used in the list view.  (The "stack of paper" base
is the Haiku convention for test items,)

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Date2019-10-08 23:10
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
That last one is the best so far. I guess this design workflow is non-orthodoxical :)
It fits a logo and circular appicons (ex android). Which is important I think.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 00:01, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/55B0E28F-C3D0-45AF-B043-7BAB21D0D9A2.png>





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Date2019-10-08 23:10
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As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

 





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Date2019-10-08 23:14
FromJason Hallen
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I like this one!

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 5:10 PM Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
That last one is the best so far. I guess this design workflow is non-orthodoxical :)
It fits a logo and circular appicons (ex android). Which is important I think.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 00:01, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/55B0E28F-C3D0-45AF-B043-7BAB21D0D9A2.png>





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Date2019-10-08 23:28
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4 line with "sound" text added...

 





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Date2019-10-09 02:24
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Date2019-10-09 09:25
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Agreed. Nods to C-64 as well, which I like :)

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 23:10, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
That last one is the best so far. I guess this design workflow is non-orthodoxical :)
It fits a logo and circular appicons (ex android). Which is important I think.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 00:01, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/55B0E28F-C3D0-45AF-B043-7BAB21D0D9A2.png>





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Date2019-10-09 09:32
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I also like this one. I think it's the most modern-looking one. 

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 09:25, Si Mills <smills@rootsix.net> wrote:
Agreed. Nods to C-64 as well, which I like :)

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 23:10, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:
That last one is the best so far. I guess this design workflow is non-orthodoxical :)
It fits a logo and circular appicons (ex android). Which is important I think.

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 00:01, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/55B0E28F-C3D0-45AF-B043-7BAB21D0D9A2.png>





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Date2019-10-09 12:51
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I like it too (especially the one with "sound")!
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Date2019-10-09 12:52
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Could you try the same "C" but with the original sound wave? 

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:51 PM Tonelli <tonelli.conservatorio@gmail.com> wrote:
I like it too (especially the one with "sound")!
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Date2019-10-09 12:54
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I really like this one too ! Modern, an really clear and easy to remember.

Le mercredi 9 octobre 2019 à 13:52:44 UTC+2, Anders Genell <anders.genell@GMAIL.COM> a écrit :


Could you try the same "C" but with the original sound wave? 

Regards,
Anders

On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:51 PM Tonelli <tonelli.conservatorio@gmail.com> wrote:
I like it too (especially the one with "sound")!
Massimiliano

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Date2019-10-09 13:26
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I had a little play, couldn't resist! - hope you don't mind, don't mean to
tread on toes - but i thought a simple modern typeface would 'future-proof'
the logo. The icon itself is unchanged. It could be used for .csd file icons
however.

1st version uses PT Sans Narrow regular

 

2nd version uses Montserrat Medium

 

Both Google fonts 



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Date2019-10-09 13:52
FromJohn ff
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Still think the first version with the squared waveform is the best.

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On Oct 9, 2019, 13:18, at 13:18, boonier  wrote:
>I had a little play, couldn't resist! - hope you don't mind, don't mean
>to
>tread on toes - but i thought a simple modern typeface would
>'future-proof'
>the logo. The icon itself is unchanged. It could be used for .csd file
>icons
>however.
>
>1st version uses PT Sans Narrow regular
>
> 
>
>2nd version uses Montserrat Medium
>
> 
>
>Both Google fonts 
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Date2019-10-09 14:01
FromJohann Philippe <000002c2c0737523-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE>
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I really appreciate the Montserrat Medium version.

Le mercredi 9 octobre 2019 à 14:53:23 UTC+2, John ff <jpff@CODEMIST.CO.UK> a écrit :


Still think the first version with the squared waveform is the best.

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On Oct 9, 2019, 13:18, at 13:18, boonier <smills@rootsix.net> wrote:
>I had a little play, couldn't resist! - hope you don't mind, don't mean
>to
>tread on toes - but i thought a simple modern typeface would
>'future-proof'
>the logo. The icon itself is unchanged. It could be used for .csd file
>icons
>however.
>
>1st version uses PT Sans Narrow regular
>
><http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t253206/cslogo1.png>
>
>2nd version uses Montserrat Medium
>
><http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t253206/cslogo2.png>
>
>Both Google fonts
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Date2019-10-09 14:23
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I love it. 

ons. 9. okt. 2019 kl. 00:01 skrev JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com>:
As far as coding goes... The least number of lines, the better...

So here's a logo with only 4...

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/55B0E28F-C3D0-45AF-B043-7BAB21D0D9A2.png>





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Date2019-10-09 14:59
FromMaston
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Really like it. Simple and effective.
Massimiliano



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Date2019-10-09 15:13
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi Pete,

There's no real need to worry regarding a small icon made from the high-res
logo... Design packages are notoriously bad at rendering legible low-res
images from hi-res images as they don't yet have the AI to extract the
important concepts, it is better to design the small square icons 32x32,
64x64, 128x128 by hand to ensure the perceived ideas are translated fully,
this I am happy to do once a final design is chosen.





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Date2019-10-09 19:27
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SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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Date2019-10-09 19:37
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Date2019-10-09 22:15
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
To alleviate the concerns over any incorrect capitalisation, any font that
is used with only uppercase letters, simply increase the point size by
approx 40% of the leading "C" thus restoring it's gravitas.



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Date2019-10-12 15:02
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi everyone,

Sorry I have been busy at work, but as requested here is the Modern C with a
Digital Waveform and the Montserrat Medium font.

 

Perhaps a panel could be formed to call for more idea submissions with a
view to making a final selection which could then be adopted?

Cheers all.
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Date2019-10-12 15:15
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Both very nice

Dr. Richard Boulanger
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Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 8:17 PM, boonier  wrote:
> 
> I had a little play, couldn't resist! - hope you don't mind, don't mean to
> tread on toes - but i thought a simple modern typeface would 'future-proof'
> the logo. The icon itself is unchanged. It could be used for .csd file icons
> however.
> 
> 1st version uses PT Sans Narrow regular
> 
>  
> 
> 2nd version uses Montserrat Medium
> 
>  
> 
> Both Google fonts 
> 
> 
> 
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Date2019-10-15 12:40
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Hi everyone, getting great feedback with regard to the modern C with the
curved digital wave so I've designed a small subroutine in p5.js that draws
the logo at any scale. I'm sure it would be easy enough to convert this...

  

 

Here is the code...

function draw() {

  let scale = 1;    // Set required Scale

  let fg = 0;    // Foreground 0 = Black
  let bg = 255;    // Background 255 = White

  // define C Opening
  let copen = 0.42;    //Radians
  let cxcentr = 100;
  let wavemax = 0.55

  // define wave digits 1 = outer
  let wave1 = 0.42;    // Orig 0.42
  let wave2 = 0.37;    // Orig 0.37
  let wave3 = 0.54;    // Orig 0.54
  let wave4 = 0.47;    // Orig 0.47
  let wave5 = 0.37;    // Orig 0.37
  let wave6 = 0.24;    // Orig 0.24

  // define wave digits gap & width
  let gap = 29;
  let width =40;

  
  // define outer wave limit
  let limit = 480;

  // setup canvas
  let ww = 428 * scale;    // Set Canvas Width
  let hh = 400 * scale;    // Set Canvas Height
  createCanvas(ww, hh);    // Initialise Canvas

  noStroke();    // Set Shape Outline to Off

  background(bg);    // Fill Canvas Background

  // Draw "C"
  fill(fg);
  circle(200 * scale, 200 * scale, 400 * scale);
  fill(bg);
  circle(200 * scale, 200 * scale, 200 * scale);
  arc(cxcentr * scale, 200 * scale, 600 * scale, 600 * scale, 0-copen,
copen, PIE);


  // Draw Outer 1st Wave
  let outer1 = limit;
  let inner1 = outer1 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, limit * scale, limit * scale, 0 - wave1,
wave1, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner1 * scale, inner1 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 2nd wave
  let outer2 = inner1 - gap;
  let inner2 = outer2 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer2 * scale, outer2 * scale, 0 - wave2,
wave2, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner2 * scale, inner2 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 3rd Wave
  let outer3 = inner2 - gap;
  let inner3 = outer3 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer3 * scale, outer3 * scale, 0 - wave3,
wave3, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner3 * scale, inner3 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 4th Wave
  let outer4 = inner3 - gap;
  let inner4 = outer4 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer4 * scale, outer4 * scale, 0 - wave4,
wave4, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner4 * scale, inner4 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 5th Wave
  let outer5 = inner4 - gap;
  let inner5 = outer5 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer5 * scale, outer5 * scale, 0 - wave5,
wave5, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner5 * scale, inner5 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw Inner 6th Wave
  let outer6 = inner5 - gap;
  let inner6 = outer6 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer6 * scale, outer6 * scale, 0 - wave6,
wave6, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner6 * scale, inner6 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);


}





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Date2019-10-15 13:21
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Too cool James! I think it scales very well. I wouldn't be opposed to a sprinkle of colour somewhere too.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:31, JamesEdwardCosby <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Hi everyone, getting great feedback with regard to the modern C with the
curved digital wave so I've designed a small subroutine in p5.js that draws
the logo at any scale. I'm sure it would be easy enough to convert this...

 <iframe src="https://editor.p5js.org/JEC/embed/e3s2pSOuAE"></iframe>

<http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/file/t340402/EFF99758-B96B-46CF-811A-679F59509587.jpeg>

Here is the code...

function draw() {

  let scale = 1;    // Set required Scale

  let fg = 0;    // Foreground 0 = Black
  let bg = 255;    // Background 255 = White

  // define C Opening
  let copen = 0.42;    //Radians
  let cxcentr = 100;
  let wavemax = 0.55

  // define wave digits 1 = outer
  let wave1 = 0.42;    // Orig 0.42
  let wave2 = 0.37;    // Orig 0.37
  let wave3 = 0.54;    // Orig 0.54
  let wave4 = 0.47;    // Orig 0.47
  let wave5 = 0.37;    // Orig 0.37
  let wave6 = 0.24;    // Orig 0.24

  // define wave digits gap & width
  let gap = 29;
  let width =40;


  // define outer wave limit
  let limit = 480;

  // setup canvas
  let ww = 428 * scale;    // Set Canvas Width
  let hh = 400 * scale;    // Set Canvas Height
  createCanvas(ww, hh);    // Initialise Canvas

  noStroke();    // Set Shape Outline to Off

  background(bg);    // Fill Canvas Background

  // Draw "C"
  fill(fg);
  circle(200 * scale, 200 * scale, 400 * scale);
  fill(bg);
  circle(200 * scale, 200 * scale, 200 * scale);
  arc(cxcentr * scale, 200 * scale, 600 * scale, 600 * scale, 0-copen,
copen, PIE);


  // Draw Outer 1st Wave
  let outer1 = limit;
  let inner1 = outer1 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, limit * scale, limit * scale, 0 - wave1,
wave1, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner1 * scale, inner1 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 2nd wave
  let outer2 = inner1 - gap;
  let inner2 = outer2 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer2 * scale, outer2 * scale, 0 - wave2,
wave2, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner2 * scale, inner2 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 3rd Wave
  let outer3 = inner2 - gap;
  let inner3 = outer3 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer3 * scale, outer3 * scale, 0 - wave3,
wave3, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner3 * scale, inner3 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 4th Wave
  let outer4 = inner3 - gap;
  let inner4 = outer4 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer4 * scale, outer4 * scale, 0 - wave4,
wave4, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner4 * scale, inner4 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw 5th Wave
  let outer5 = inner4 - gap;
  let inner5 = outer5 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer5 * scale, outer5 * scale, 0 - wave5,
wave5, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner5 * scale, inner5 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);

  // Draw Inner 6th Wave
  let outer6 = inner5 - gap;
  let inner6 = outer6 - width;
  fill(fg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, outer6 * scale, outer6 * scale, 0 - wave6,
wave6, PIE);
  fill(bg);
  arc(180 * scale, 200 * scale, inner6 * scale, inner6 * scale, 0-wavemax,
wavemax, PIE);


}





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Date2019-10-19 02:05
FromPete Goodeve
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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Date2019-10-19 09:33
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I still think the original idea (e.g. the left hand side ones) is the best.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 19 Oct 2019, at 02:05, Pete Goodeve  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I hope this topic doesn't die of lethargy, after all the work
> that James has put in!
> 
> I've done some variants of the first and last original designs
> that embody some points I thought important.  Combined as
> an attached PNG.
> 
> I think, if the logo has the full "Csound" text, the "C" should
> be part of it, inline, rather than having it repeated in text below.
> 
> I've also enlarged the "sound" text compared to the originals,
> as this looks better to me, especially at small scales.
> 
> And finally, although I've included both forms of "C", I *strongly*
> prefer the original!  I look at it and think "Oh, that's distinctive".
> Looking at the later one it's "Oh, yeah.. Huh."  It just seems too
> similar to so many other business logos.
> 
> The image has a large version of each, suitable as a main page
> header, for instance, and a smaller version that might be placed
> in the corner of each page. Finally I added some colour to the
> basic logos that I think would improve it for many uses.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 	-- Pete --
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Date2019-10-19 10:17
FromEduardo Moguillansky
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I agree with Victor, the original idea (left up) is the more distinctive 
one.

---
eduardo

On 19.10.19 10:33, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> I still think the original idea (e.g. the left hand side ones) is the best.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 19 Oct 2019, at 02:05, Pete Goodeve  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I hope this topic doesn't die of lethargy, after all the work
>> that James has put in!
>>
>> I've done some variants of the first and last original designs
>> that embody some points I thought important.  Combined as
>> an attached PNG.
>>
>> I think, if the logo has the full "Csound" text, the "C" should
>> be part of it, inline, rather than having it repeated in text below.
>>
>> I've also enlarged the "sound" text compared to the originals,
>> as this looks better to me, especially at small scales.
>>
>> And finally, although I've included both forms of "C", I *strongly*
>> prefer the original!  I look at it and think "Oh, that's distinctive".
>> Looking at the later one it's "Oh, yeah.. Huh."  It just seems too
>> similar to so many other business logos.
>>
>> The image has a large version of each, suitable as a main page
>> header, for instance, and a smaller version that might be placed
>> in the corner of each page. Finally I added some colour to the
>> basic logos that I think would improve it for many uses.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> 	-- Pete --
>>
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Date2019-10-19 10:25
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I guess we would have a community vote and see what people prefer. We could set a date for the vote so people still have time to propose other logos if they wish. If we say 2 weeks from now? 

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 10:17, Eduardo Moguillansky <eduardo.moguillansky@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Victor, the original idea (left up) is the more distinctive
one.

---
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On 19.10.19 10:33, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> I still think the original idea (e.g. the left hand side ones) is the best.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
>> On 19 Oct 2019, at 02:05, Pete Goodeve <pete.goodeve@COMPUTER.ORG> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I hope this topic doesn't die of lethargy, after all the work
>> that James has put in!
>>
>> I've done some variants of the first and last original designs
>> that embody some points I thought important.  Combined as
>> an attached PNG.
>>
>> I think, if the logo has the full "Csound" text, the "C" should
>> be part of it, inline, rather than having it repeated in text below.
>>
>> I've also enlarged the "sound" text compared to the originals,
>> as this looks better to me, especially at small scales.
>>
>> And finally, although I've included both forms of "C", I *strongly*
>> prefer the original!  I look at it and think "Oh, that's distinctive".
>> Looking at the later one it's "Oh, yeah.. Huh."  It just seems too
>> similar to so many other business logos.
>>
>> The image has a large version of each, suitable as a main page
>> header, for instance, and a smaller version that might be placed
>> in the corner of each page. Finally I added some colour to the
>> basic logos that I think would improve it for many uses.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>      -- Pete --
>>
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Date2019-10-19 11:35
FromJohn ff
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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On Oct 19, 2019, 09:34, at 09:34, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>I still think the original idea (e.g. the left hand side ones) is the
>best.
>========================
>Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>Maynooth University
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>
>> On 19 Oct 2019, at 02:05, Pete Goodeve 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I hope this topic doesn't die of lethargy, after all the work
>> that James has put in!
>> 
>> I've done some variants of the first and last original designs
>> that embody some points I thought important.  Combined as
>> an attached PNG.
>> 
>> I think, if the logo has the full "Csound" text, the "C" should
>> be part of it, inline, rather than having it repeated in text below.
>> 
>> I've also enlarged the "sound" text compared to the originals,
>> as this looks better to me, especially at small scales.
>> 
>> And finally, although I've included both forms of "C", I *strongly*
>> prefer the original!  I look at it and think "Oh, that's
>distinctive".
>> Looking at the later one it's "Oh, yeah.. Huh."  It just seems too
>> similar to so many other business logos.
>> 
>> The image has a large version of each, suitable as a main page
>> header, for instance, and a smaller version that might be placed
>> in the corner of each page. Finally I added some colour to the
>> basic logos that I think would improve it for many uses.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 	-- Pete --
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Date2019-10-19 20:21
Frompete.goodeve@COMPUTER.ORG
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
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Date2019-10-19 20:46
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
We could put the samples online somewhere, but I think we should restrict votes to members of the mailing list only? Or? 

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 20:20, <pete.goodeve@computer.org> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:25:28AM +0100, Rory Walsh wrote:
> I guess we would have a community vote and see what people prefer. We could
> set a date for the vote so people still have time to propose other logos if
> they wish. If we say 2 weeks from now?
>
Sounds like a plan.   Would it be a good idea to put up a web page soemwhere
with the candidate designs?

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Date2019-10-19 21:02
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Date2019-10-20 00:11
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I feel there should be a proportional vote where each voter from the mailing
list assigns a "numeric like" to each candidate logo for example...

1 = "Definitely not this one!"
2 = "Meh, I Don't really think so..."
3 = "Not my Favourite but acceptable..."
4 = "Yes, happy enough with this logo..."
5 = "Yes! Really love this one!!"

The same level of "like" can be assigned to more than one logo so multiple
logos could all be assigned a 2 or a 4 for example by any individual voter.
The grand total for each logo will then form an overall level of acceptance.

I am hoping there will be more logo candidates to vote on so and with this
in mind here is another candidate...

 



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Date2019-10-20 01:12
FromJamesEdwardCosby
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This is a simplified variation...

 



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Date2019-10-21 02:09
FromJamesEdwardCosby
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
Maybe it is just me, but I so much prefer to work instead of sleeping...

So here's another logo candidate... A Simple C with pressure waves
emanating, the speaker Cone & Magnet shape is a universally recognised
graphic, but in this case, it is merely perceived, not actually there!

 





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Date2019-10-21 07:34
FromPete Goodeve
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Date2019-10-21 09:19
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Csound Corporate Identity Logo
I very much like this. While I also liked the first one, I just find it hard to picture it fitting a modern website design. 

On Mon 21 Oct 2019, 02:59 JamesEdwardCosby, <jamesedwardcosby@jecdesign.com> wrote:
Maybe it is just me, but I so much prefer to work instead of sleeping...

So here's another logo candidate... A Simple C with pressure waves
emanating, the speaker Cone & Magnet shape is a universally recognised
graphic, but in this case, it is merely perceived, not actually there!

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