Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS problems.

Regarding ATS, I am not sure where this code came from or what it is
suppose to do.  Can we plan a method for fixing, or or deciding to
accept this bug for this release?
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I am looking at the ATScross code now. In principle, the code
looks fine, however it does not work. I understand the idea behind it,
but I can't find the reason why it does not work. Did it ever work, I wonder?

At 12:37 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
>believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
>am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS problems.
>
>Regarding ATS, I am not sure where this code came from or what it is
>suppose to do.  Can we plan a method for fixing, or or deciding to
>accept this bug for this release?
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As I suspected... I am having a go at it, but can't promise anything.

At 13:30 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>I tried ATScross when it was first released and it wasn't working then either.
>p
>
>On 31/05/07, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> > I am looking at the ATScross code now. In principle, the code
> > looks fine, however it does not work. I understand the idea behind it,
> > but I can't find the reason why it does not work. Did it ever work, I 
> wonder?
> >
> > At 12:37 31/05/2007, you wrote:
> > >Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
> > >believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
> > >am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS problems.
> > >
> > >Regarding ATS, I am not sure where this code came from or what it is
> > >suppose to do.  Can we plan a method for fixing, or or deciding to
> > >accept this bug for this release?
> > >==John ffitch
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I am assuming this is in reference to the code that I committed last night?

As I mentioned two days ago, I am still trying to finalize the FileOpen
callback feature.  I had already committed some code for this a month ago,
but the support was incomplete.  The code that I committed last night
included some incompatible changes with the previously committed code as
well as new API functions that were needed to finish the plugin parts of the
interface.  Had I not committed them now, we would have been faced with the
need for incompatible changes in a future release.

I had asked for another week to finish all of this (two days ago) and I
still need to modify several areas of the code so that they provide proper
information to the FileOpen callback.  These include the fout family of
opcodes, sfopenout() and sfopenin(), and more changes to
csoundFileOpenWithType().  Although the function interface will not be
changing again, these changes will ensure a consistent behavior of this new
feature right from the beginning.

I will try to get as much done in the next two days as I can, but I may need
the weekend to finish.  Hoping that this is not too much of a problem ...

Anthony 

jpff wrote on 5/31/07 7:37 AM:

> Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
> believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
> am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS problems.


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I have commited some fixes to the ATS opcodes.

ATScross is quite problematic. It really requires some more thinking,
I have tried to come up with some solutions, but the original code is
flawed. However, at least now it does not explode.

I added some amp interpolation to ATSadd so it might fix the click problem 
reported
here (although I could not reproduce it).

I think they're releasable now. But I would still recommend the PV, PVS and 
tracks (tr---)
opcodes for this type of work as I think they work better.

Victor




At 13:39 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>As I suspected... I am having a go at it, but can't promise anything.
>
>At 13:30 31/05/2007, you wrote:
> >I tried ATScross when it was first released and it wasn't working then 
> either.
> >p
> >
> >On 31/05/07, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> > > I am looking at the ATScross code now. In principle, the code
> > > looks fine, however it does not work. I understand the idea behind it,
> > > but I can't find the reason why it does not work. Did it ever work, I
> > wonder?
> > >
> > > At 12:37 31/05/2007, you wrote:
> > > >Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
> > > >believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
> > > >am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS problems.
> > > >
> > > >Regarding ATS, I am not sure where this code came from or what it is
> > > >suppose to do.  Can we plan a method for fixing, or or deciding to
> > > >accept this bug for this release?
> > > >==John ffitch
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Thanks :)
I think the clips in ATSadd are more audible with ksmps = 100 and a complex
ats file with many partials.
p 

Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> 
> I have commited some fixes to the ATS opcodes.
> 
> ATScross is quite problematic. It really requires some more thinking,
> I have tried to come up with some solutions, but the original code is
> flawed. However, at least now it does not explode.
> 
> I added some amp interpolation to ATSadd so it might fix the click problem 
> reported
> here (although I could not reproduce it).
> 
> I think they're releasable now. But I would still recommend the PV, PVS
> and 
> tracks (tr---)
> opcodes for this type of work as I think they work better.
> 
> Victor
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 13:39 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>>As I suspected... I am having a go at it, but can't promise anything.
>>
>>At 13:30 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>> >I tried ATScross when it was first released and it wasn't working then 
>> either.
>> >p
>> >
>> >On 31/05/07, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> > > I am looking at the ATScross code now. In principle, the code
>> > > looks fine, however it does not work. I understand the idea behind
>> it,
>> > > but I can't find the reason why it does not work. Did it ever work, I
>> > wonder?
>> > >
>> > > At 12:37 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>> > > >Can we hold back on large changes until the next release is out?  I
>> > > >believe the only things holding us back are the turnoff bug (which I
>> > > >am slowly beginning to understand) and the collection of ATS
>> problems.
>> > > >
>> > > >Regarding ATS, I am not sure where this code came from or what it is
>> > > >suppose to do.  Can we plan a method for fixing, or or deciding to
>> > > >accept this bug for this release?
>> > > >==John ffitch
>> > > >
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