[Csnd] FM with feedback
Date | 2017-10-28 20:51 |
From | Michael Mossey |
Subject | [Csnd] FM with feedback |
Does Csound have an FM modulator that can do feedback? Or how would this be implemented in a UDO?
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Date | 2017-10-28 22:21 |
From | "Jeanette C." |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] FM with feedback |
Oct 28 2017, Michael Mossey has written: > Does Csound have an FM modulator that can do feedback? Or how would this be > implemented in a UDO? Not sure about a direct opcode, but you can easily implement it. Feedback means feeding back the output of the FM synthesis into the frequency modulation input. Youbetter init an audio signal first, so its valid everywhere. Caution: with true FM feeding back can lead to zero output, at least if you only feed one oscillator into itself. Better use PM (phase modulation). You can realise that by using the table or table3 opcode and then modulating the xndex parameter. I think this caveat was the reason Yamaha used PM in the DX synthesizer series instead of FM. If you're interested in the PM solution, I some code. But may be there is a simpler solution using existing opcodes now. I designed my UDO some time ago. Best wishes, Jeanette -------- * website: http://juliencoder.de - for summer is a state of sound * SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c Here I go, on my own now <3 (Britney Spears) Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here |
Date | 2017-10-29 01:25 |
From | Michael Mossey |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] FM with feedback |
Please include your code. Even if I don't need it, I would like to make better sense of what you are describing. Do you have code for a simple phase-modulated system (one modulator, one carrier) that includes feedback? Mike On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Jeanette C. <julien@mail.upb.de> wrote: Oct 28 2017, Michael Mossey has written: |
Date | 2017-10-29 09:29 |
From | Francois PINOT |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] FM with feedback |
I wrote something about the subject a few years ago. Maybe this can help you: http://fggp.org/en/crossfm/index.html Regards2017-10-28 21:51 GMT+02:00 Michael Mossey <michaelmossey@gmail.com>:
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Date | 2017-10-29 14:30 |
From | "Jeanette C." |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] FM with feedback |
Oct 29 2017, Michael Mossey has written: > Please include your code. Here's a very simplified version: *** pm_test.csd *** |
Date | 2017-10-29 15:29 |
From | Steven Yi |
Subject | Re: [Csnd] FM with feedback |
Thanks for sharing this Francois, a wonderful resource! (I'd also mention Francois' article in the Csound Journal about crossfm: http://csoundjournal.com/issue12/crossfm.html) On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 5:29 AM, Francois PINOT |