| Csoudn does not allow any two-argument functions. Hence the opcode
form for taninv2. What gave you the idea for the syntax
taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
==John
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I was following this discussion last week with that in mind. Since I've been
out of pocket the last several days, I'll look at it again. Due to the
number of changes in the next release, and the impending release of the 3.54
code, it may have to wait for the next release.
I will also bring this up with Richard Boulanger (except he's probably been
following this discussion, anyway).
-David.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:41 AM
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>
> one last word...
>
> A small discrepancy such as the ampdb description probably should be
> pointed out to the whoever is doing the manual or the csound book proo
> freading... I think it may be able to be reported to David
> Boothe... is
> that correct?
>
> >Anyway, it's clear that the manual is not precise,
> misleadingly stating that
> >the reference is 90dB = 32000.
> >Even if the deviations are insignificant, as I said, it's
> always better to
> >have a good idea of how opcodes work and known exactly what
> to expect.
> >
> It is often the tiniest discrepancies that cause the greatest
> confusion....
>
>
> Terry McDermott
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I'm afraid it's in the manual that way. At least until the next release.
Actually, the way I have it listed is confusing - sort of half way between
function syntax and opcode syntax.
-David.
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>
> Csoudn does not allow any two-argument functions. Hence the opcode
> form for taninv2. What gave you the idea for the syntax
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RE: taninv2
I'm afraid it's in the manual that way. At least =
until the next release. Actually, the way I have it listed is confusing =
- sort of half way between function syntax and opcode =
syntax.
-David.
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>
> Csoudn does not allow any two-argument =
functions. Hence the opcode
> form for taninv2. What gave you the idea =
for the syntax
> taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
>
> =3D=3DJohn
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I'm afraid it's in the manual that way. At least until the next release.
Actually, the way I have it listed is confusing - sort of half way between
function syntax and opcode syntax.
-David.
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>
>
> Csoudn does not allow any two-argument functions. Hence the opcode
> form for taninv2. What gave you the idea for the syntax
> taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
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> ==John
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RE: taninv2
I'm afraid it's in the manual that way. At least =
until the next release. Actually, the way I have it listed is confusing =
- sort of half way between function syntax and opcode =
syntax.
-David.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk [mailto:jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk]<=
/FONT>
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:06 AM
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>
>
> Csoudn does not allow any two-argument =
functions. Hence the opcode
> form for taninv2. What gave you the idea =
for the syntax
> taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
>
> =3D=3DJohn
>
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> What gave you the idea for the syntax taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
>==John
The manual.
The v.3.52 Windows help version:
taninv2(x, y) (no rate restriction)
Description:
taninv2(x, y) returns the arctan of y/x. If any of x or y is zero, taninv2 returns zero.
The v.3.52 PDF version:
taninv2 (x) (no rate restriction)
Without description.
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No taninv2 yet.
The v.3.53 HTML version (ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/CsoundManual/CsManual3.53.HTML.zip):
Finally correct, though taninv2 is still missing in the index. (Well, I don't mind.)
I found it today. Just didn't think the manuals were so different, and didn't bother to check them all.
Anyway - my problem is solved :)
Jens.
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> What gave you the idea for the syntax taninv2(afoox,afooy) ?
>==John
The manual.
The v.3.52 Windows help version:
taninv2(x, y) (no rate restriction)
Description:
taninv2(x, y) returns the arctan of y/x. If any of x or y is zero, taninv2 returns zero.
The v.3.52 PDF version:
taninv2 (x) (no rate restriction)
Without description.
The v.3.48 HTML online version (http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Man/Csound/title.html):
No taninv2 yet.
The v.3.53 HTML version (ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/CsoundManual/CsManual3.53.HTML.zip):
Finally correct, though taninv2 is still missing in the index. (Well, I don't mind.)
I found it today. Just didn't think the manuals were so different, and didn't bother to check them all.
Anyway - my problem is solved :)
Jens.
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>I'm afraid it's in the manual that way. At least until the next release.
>Actually, the way I have it listed is confusing - sort of half way between
>function syntax and opcode syntax.
Is there any clear reason why both forms exist ? Given that they are
both implemented in exactly the same way, what is the reason for
supporting parenthetical expressions for one class of "opcodes" but
not for others ?
--p ... ksignal = oscil (1, 0.5, 3);
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>Lonce wrote:
>Interesting term "analogic" music. - I suppose there is an analogy to
>be made between the art people used to make using only notes and what we
>now understand to be music!
Let me know, what do "you" now understand to be music? I like Xenakis as
Bach and Nono as Monteverdi! No one of them made music using only notes.
Anyway I cannot control all the "nuances" of the english language (nor all
the basic grammatical rules!) and I used the word "analogic" only in
opposition to the word "digital": "arte digitale" in Italy is another way
to say "computer art".
But the important question is: no one of you use CSound in real time? Do
you use different programs for live elctronics?
Many thanks to the persons (only two at the moment) that decided to send me
their music, I will manage to play it in my concerts (of course, if I'll
like it!). I forgot to write my address, that is:
Michelangelo Rinaldi
via C. Colombo 9/5
Torre del Lago Puccini
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Hola!
Wouldn't it be possible to check if the user only specify one filename
("foo") at the commandline, and then try to load "foo.orc" and "foo.sco"
respectively?
If so, then one could even use "foo" as the default output-filename.
"foo.aiff", "foo.wav" etc etc..
This would save alot of typing for some, but still be compatible with the
"old" way to enter orc and sco names!
// Anders
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Ho!
Is it safe to use constant divisions? That is.. Are they converted to
multiplications internally in CSound so that it will run faster?
If not, why not? =)
// Anders
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One way to accomplish this without changing csound (smart programs are
dangerous, I think) is to call csound with a batch (.bat) file that
contains the desired csound command line. For example, I have a file
called cs.bat, which contains:
csound -o %1.wav -W %1.orc %1.sco
Calling "cs foo" will bind 'foo' to %1, run csound with foo.sco and
foo.orc and write the result to a .wav file called foo.wav.
This is also useful if you have various favorite parameter settings,
just create different batch files. Possibilities are endless. Almost
like Unix ;-)
Job van Zuijlen
Anders Andersson wrote:
>
> Hola!
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to check if the user only specify one filename
> ("foo") at the commandline, and then try to load "foo.orc" and "foo.sco"
> respectively?
> If so, then one could even use "foo" as the default output-filename.
> "foo.aiff", "foo.wav" etc etc..
>
> This would save alot of typing for some, but still be compatible with the
> "old" way to enter orc and sco names!
>
> // Anders
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From: Paul Barton-Davis
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does anyone have any ideas on how to do what sndwarp does, but in real
time,instead of from a function table ?
--p
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Rinaldi wrote:
>
> But the important question is: no one of you use CSound in real time? Do
> you use different programs for live elctronics?
I do use it in realtime!
happy csounding
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Gabriel Maldonado
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> > But the important question is: no one of you use CSound in real time? Do
> > you use different programs for live elctronics?
>
> I do use it in realtime!
So do I ! Together with a MIDI fader box (Kawai K5000) I have a very
cool virtual analog synth (that is capable of even more than just analog).
It works fine on a PentiumII/350 (linux). With 44kHz stereo, the polyphony
is not very big (ca 1-3).. so I use 22kHz mono instead, then save my work
as MIDI file and render it offline using full 44kHz stereo. This is of
course not suitable for a live show, but if you don't need high polyphony,
it should be ok with 44kHz/stereo.
Thomas
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Message written at 18 May 1999 11:57:04 +0100
is all ready to go, except I have one problem -- which is the one
Anders alluded to, how to locate the string database. My current code
looks in the current directory, which is hardly satisfactory. It
woudl be possible to look in /usr/local/lib on unix, or use an
environment variable, or use then SADIR/SSDIR/... stuff. I would
rather not link into the binary, as I was people to have the ability
to change language with ease. Oh well.....
Version 3.54 is now on the Bath server for PC (3 versions) and Irix4.
Sources in both zip and compressed tar are there also. Irix5 and
Solaris will follow soon, and Mac68K in a day or so.
==John ffitch |