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Re: network protocol (was Re: Creamware)

Date1998-04-25 22:21
FromCharles Baker
SubjectRe: network protocol (was Re: Creamware)
Nathan Day wrote:

> Why do we want a midi using floating point numbers, its just control information not actual parameters to be used internally.

Well,are you, or have you ever been an instrumentalist? Any competent
conservatory trained pianist can tell you that MIDI fails to capture
dynamic resolution ("nuaces") of their performance. I am a competent
wind instrumentalist who owns a own a yamaha MIDI wind controller.
I rather *hate* the velocity/wind pressure mapping...I spend hours twitching
the adjustments, but in the final analysis, no matter what the settings, in
*some* range of the dynamics, I will notice annoying "jumping" in
dynamics...there is just not enough resolution in MIDI's 0-127!!!!!!!
And also, wouldn't it be nice if one who is interested in just tunings
(such as a-cappella vocal groups and brass ensembles *require* to
sound good....) could just send the desired frequency and just the
right pitch, rather than having to map pitch bend? After all, why are we
using csound, if not to have that control that has been programmed out of
most MIDI devices?


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Charlie Baker              baker@charlieb.com
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Date1998-04-26 20:37
FromMichael Thompson
SubjectRe: network protocol (was Re: Creamware)
Floats would be good. But I think Im missing something. Isnt MIDI
transmitted as 8-bit? so how would floats increase the resolution?
There are other ways to increase MIDI resolution.

Some problems in MIDI hardware also. I know of many synths that dont even use
the full 127 step resolution on controllers. Not only
that but depending on the amount of MIDI info getting sent out/in the port can
cause data loss due to the type of network MIDI uses. 

Now using MIDI in Csound... I dont know. I think there are ways in Csound to
increase the resolution coming in from a controller.

Michael
 


On 25-Apr-98 Charles Baker wrote:
> Nathan Day wrote:
> 
>> Why do we want a midi using floating point numbers, its just control
>> information not actual parameters to be used internally.
> 
> Well,are you, or have you ever been an instrumentalist? Any competent
> conservatory trained pianist can tell you that MIDI fails to capture
> dynamic resolution ("nuaces") of their performance. I am a competent
> wind instrumentalist who owns a own a yamaha MIDI wind controller.
> I rather *hate* the velocity/wind pressure mapping...I spend hours twitching
> the adjustments, but in the final analysis, no matter what the settings, in
> *some* range of the dynamics, I will notice annoying "jumping" in
> dynamics...there is just not enough resolution in MIDI's 0-127!!!!!!!
> And also, wouldn't it be nice if one who is interested in just tunings
> (such as a-cappella vocal groups and brass ensembles *require* to
> sound good....) could just send the desired frequency and just the
> right pitch, rather than having to map pitch bend? After all, why are we
> using csound, if not to have that control that has been programmed out of
> most MIDI devices?
> 
> 
> --
> *********************************************
> Charlie Baker              baker@charlieb.com
> *********************************************
> 
> 
> 

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Date: 26-Apr-98
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