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From: Josep M Comajuncosas 
Come on, with those pro-sequencers you cannot go further than recreating
some plastified
classical or jazz arrangements or derive to some tonal, 4/4 based techno
stuff (techno,
jungle, drum&bass, etc. all the same for me). I rarely use them (neither
MIDI lately) in my
music. If "real" music = music people dance at the disco/ music you  hear at
the tube
stations, maybe I´ll agree with you, but that is not certainly an extremely
creative
challenge IMHO.
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I feel compelled to say that pro sequencers, such as cakewalk, are only as
'pro' as the one using it.  There are certainly rank amatuers out there
making the kind of primitive garbage you mention. . . midi has made a large
production base possible, but that has _nothing_ to do with quality except
in the many immature minds partaking of it.   As myself a pianist of two
degrees and 40 years experience, I can do, and have done,  quite a bit
better than "plastified classical or jazz arrangements or derive to some
tonal, 4/4 based techno stuff."   On the Roland JV1080 (alas stolen, but I
shall again aquire one this year) I was doing all sorts of music far beyond
'disco and tube,' which I also along with you despise.