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political attacks? on a csound list??

Date1999-04-12 02:04
FromPatrick Pagano
Subjectpolitical attacks? on a csound list??
Hey folks at Csound
I am trying to find a Sco generator and this is what I recieved from the
list.
I am not a political person and do not feel this is a place to discuss
such topics.
Anyone else (who does not hate americans) who can help me with C sound
please
let me know

ubject:
       Re: Sco generator
   Date:
       Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:42:19 -0600
  From:
       f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
    To:
       Csound List 
>Hi Csounder
>Mr. Boulangers sneak preview is a Godsend for us

Mr.Win95; == Godsend

>newbies

first time what a joy.

>I got Grain to run for the first time what a joy.
>Been switching between patchwork and VisOrc

preview switching

>I like Pw's graphic simplicity but Does anyone have a nice score
>generator??

du +???


>Thanks

nice score


>FLA USA


 USA - k!ll 4 `peace` - what a joy.
 JANKEE zvazt!ka -  graphic simplicity

but



Date1999-04-12 16:00
FromLarry Troxler
SubjectRe: political attacks? on a csound list??
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Patrick Pagano wrote:

> 
> Hey folks at Csound
> I am trying to find a Sco generator and this is what I recieved from the
> list.
> I am not a political person and do not feel this is a place to discuss
> such topics.

>        f1f0@m9ndfukc.com

That guy has been trolling this list for a while now. Most of us have
learned to just delete any messages from him.

Larry 

--  Larry Troxler  --  lt@westnet.com  --  Patterson, NY USA  --
  



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Larry Troxler wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Patrick Pagano wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey folks at Csound
> > I am trying to find a Sco generator and this is what I recieved from the
> > list.
> > I am not a political person and do not feel this is a place to discuss
> > such topics.
>
> >        f1f0@m9ndfukc.com
>
> That guy has been trolling this list for a while now. Most of us have
> learned to just delete any messages from him.
>
> Larry
>
> --  Larry Troxler  --  lt@westnet.com  --  Patterson, NY USA  --


some may even have learned to think

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Date: 12 Apr 99 19:36:07 America/Fort_Wayne
From: Robert Junior Mcnulty 
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All I need now is a recording studio or a CD-RW. I'm producing my first
official album soon. =

Tools used:
Ezpno 3.0 : creates midifile
midi2cs:   starts and creates ORC and SCO files
DX7 emulator: great sound, older instruments.
csound: does actual work.

cygwin GCC compiler: used to create TO.exe, based on DX72csnd.

More to come later.


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Methinks you are in a pretty sorry state if you need that to learn to
think.

wasd wrote:
> 
>> some may even have learned to think
> 
> --
> --http://www.sar.usf.edu/~jpowell4
> --ftp://quixot.rug.ac.be/MP&G_999.dbh!/wasd/gui.html


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Methinks all are in a pretty sorry state if you flee from such thought.
is that clearer for you -

> Methinks you need to
> think.
>
>
>
> >> learn to think





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And some folks either can not or will not think enough to keep lists on topic.

So here's my off topic contrib.


Signature Memetic Virus

The worst enemy of those who now or will need medical care is the politician 
who proscribes what doctors are allowed to prescribe and research,
.with their patients permission,

Those who understand this are strongly encouraged to modify this to 
fit their personality, and add this to their signature file, and
organize to recover our freedom from Big Brother.

For those who wait until they are sick, it will be too late.

Those who suffer from diseases which might have been cured by fetal tissue 
research or schedule 1 drugs banned by Big Brother have the right to
hold those accountable who sat on their hands while they remained ill.



Long healthy life.


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I don't think the problem people are having with antiorp/mindfuck
is the thought, but the language used.  The language used makes
the thought more inaccessable.  If the thought was presented in
oh, I don't know, English, would the thought then be so 
impressive?  I don't know because I can't decifer many of his
messages.

On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, wasd wrote:

> Methinks all are in a pretty sorry state if you flee from such thought.
> is that clearer for you -
> 
> > Methinks you need to
> > think.
> >
> >
> >
> > >> learn to think
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:04:23 -0500
From: Mark Corwin 
Subject: Cecelia Problem - StochasticGrains
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Can anyone help with an error that has developed on both my machine and
our studio Mac. The Stochastic Grains Synthesis module in Cecelia
generates a CSound score that terminates thus:


--------------------------------------------------------START

Csound Version 3.51 (Jan 26 1999)

WARNING: floats encoding information cannot

       be contained in the header...

orchname:  alpha:Desktop Folder:StochasticGrains.orc

scorename: alpha:Desktop Folder:StochasticGrains.sco

sorting score ...

    ... done

orch compiler:

91 lines read

    instr   100 

    instr   101 

    instr   151 

    instr   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10  11  12  13  14  15 
16

17  18  19  20  21  22  23  24  25  

error:  no legal opcode, line 48:

kpint   kexprand 4

error:  input arg 'kpint' used before defined, line 72:

    iinten      =

exp(log(i(kgii))+abs(i(kpint/6))*(log(i(kgis))-log(i(kgii))))

2 syntax errors in orchestra.  compilation invalid


FATAL ERROR: terminated perf.


--------------------------------------------------------------END


-----My machine ---------------START


Csound Version 3.493 (Nov 23 1998)

orchname:  Mark's Mac:Desktop Folder:StochasticGrains.orc

scorename: Mark's Mac:Desktop Folder:StochasticGrains.sco

sorting score ...

    ... done

orch compiler:

91 lines read

    instr   100 

    instr   101 

    instr   151 

    instr   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10  11  12  13  14  15 
16  17  18  19  20  21  22  23  24  25  

error:  no legal opcode, line 48:

kpint   kexprand 4

error:  input arg 'kpint' used before defined, line 72:

    iinten      =  
exp(log(i(kgii))+abs(i(kpint/6))*(log(i(kgis))-log(i(kgii))))

2 syntax errors in orchestra.  compilation invalid


FATAL ERROR: terminated perf.

--------------------------------------------------------------END


I'm new to CSound; be kind.

Thanks in advance,


Dr. Mark Corwin

Chair, Concordia University Music Department

7141 Sherbrooke West

Montreal, Quebec

H4B 1R6

http://music.concordia.ca

(514) 848-4707 Voice

(514) 848-2808 FAX





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WERE NEW TO C SOUND BUT WE ARE HAVING FUN

2 YEARS AGO WE BUILT A MOOG EMULATION WITH BUTTERWORTH FILTERS

AND REGULAR OSCIL. WE HAVE BEEN USING COPY PASTE ALOT TO TRY

DIFFERENT ORC LINES IN DIFFERENT WAYS USING THE FAT CSOUND WITH

BBEDIT ON A MACINTOSH. WE HAVE JUST BEGAN USING THE WINDOWS VERSION =


WHICH IS ALSO GREAT. =


BY THE WAY DID YOU GUYS KNOW THE ADDRESS AT THE CSOUND HOME PAGE

WILL NOT OPEN TO SUBSCRIBE TO CSOUND. IT TOOK US ABOUT 6 MONTHS =


OF SEARCHING THRU ANY LITERATURE IN ANY ARCHIVE WE COULD FIND

TO GET THE ADDRESS TO SUBSCRIBE. FINALLY WE USED THE NET@DDRESS

411 SEARCH TOOL AND FOUND YOU.

THIS IS GREAT

THANK YOU

CRAIG

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Thank you for the response, Roger!

	I tried the link you gave me for the HRTFcompact file, but just got a
line of symbols displayed on my browser.  In the previous directory
(Analysis/) the file is shown as having a size of 184k, but I can't get
anywhere with it.  Any ideas on this or on any other sites I could get
the HRTF measurements from?

thanks for the help,
james


Roger Klaveness wrote:
> 
> I guess you could use convolve, but it would probably be easier to
> use the hrtfer opcode. And if you don't already have it you must
> download the HRTFCompact file from
> ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/utilities/Analysis/HRTFcompact
> which contains the HRTF measurements


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This may be a dumb question, but why are the makefiles and workspaces for
the MS compiler from 1998.  Shouldn't these files have the same date as the
latest version of Csound?  I'm referring to the files in "csound_src.zip" on
the bath site, BTW.



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Every thing you say is right, but when I try to drag a csd file onto
WinSound or Console csound it tries to parse the csd as an orc file.  What
happens is that Windows converts the filename to ALLCAPS.  WinSound and
Console Csound will parse test.csd just fine, but not TEST.CSD.  This is a
funny problem, but is definitely a problem in the Csound code, not the
windows code.  Without looking at the code, my guess is that csound reads
the last 4 chars of the orchestra file name to see if the file is a csd
file.  These four characters should simply be converted to a uniform case
before the logical test.

BTW, DirectCsound doesn't have this problem.

The associations are no problem.  I have csd files associated with my text
editor, with three non-default associations to DirectCsound, Console Csound,
and WinSound.  Thus, I can right-click and render with the Csound of my
choice.  These secondary-associations can be created by editing the
information under the File Types tab of Explorer's "View | Folder Options"
dialog box.  You could also place shortcuts to Different Csounds in your
SendTo directory, if the drag-and-drop mechanism worked.  (This is a
subdirectory of the Windows directory.)  Then you would right click on CSD
file, choose SendTo and choose a Csound.  However, If you aren't into
right-clicking, then there is no way to solve the association problem.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject:	Re: csd files

This should happen anyway - I can file up Winsound just dragging a text
file to it (lots of error msgs or course, but it launches). The real
issue is double-clicking a file - i.e setting up an 'association'; e.g
by d-clicking a csd file, and when Windows puts up the dialog asking
which program to use to open the file, just put in the path to Winsound
(or browse using the 'Other' button).

Programmatically, it can be done by defining a document type (this is an
MFC thing), and then calling EnableShellOpen() and
RegisterShellFileTypes().

The problem with this is exactly that anyone using both Winsound and
AXCsound will want the association with one or the other. However, just
about any file can be dragged to an icon - all that happens is that
Windows passes it in the command line. So long as Winsound can handle
nothing but a csd file as a commandline arg, all is well!

Richard Dobson

jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote:
>
> Message written at 11 Apr 1999 19:11:22 +0530
> --- Copy of mail to Christopher.Neese@oberlin.edu ---
>
> I had not given any tought to dragging a csd file onto the winsound
> icon, but clearly I ought to have done.  I will look into it.
> ==John ffitch

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>        I tried the link you gave me for the HRTFcompact file, but just got a
>line of symbols displayed on my browser.

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>In the previous directory
>(Analysis/) the file is shown as having a size of 184k, but I can't get
>anywhere with it.  Any ideas on this or on any other sites I could get
>the HRTF measurements from?
>
>thanks for the help,
>james


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For some reason your browser is'a a textfile and thries to show 
it to you, you really want to download it. 
Go to the Analysis/ dir and press  while you clicks on 
the file, that is if you are using Netscape, if you are using 
MS Internet Explorer i think you will have to right click and 
choose "save target" or something like that.

Roger

James Veltri wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the response, Roger!
> 
>         I tried the link you gave me for the HRTFcompact file, but just got a
> line of symbols displayed on my browser.  In the previous directory
> (Analysis/) the file is shown as having a size of 184k, but I can't get
> anywhere with it.  Any ideas on this or on any other sites I could get
> the HRTF measurements from?
> 
> thanks for the help,
> james
> 
> Roger Klaveness wrote:
> >
> > I guess you could use convolve, but it would probably be easier to
> > use the hrtfer opcode. And if you don't already have it you must
> > download the HRTFCompact file from
> > ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/utilities/Analysis/HRTFcompact
> > which contains the HRTF measurements


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Correction:

For some reason your browser think it's a textfile and thries to show
> 
> For some reason your browser is'a a textfile and thries to show

It wasn't my intent to be so metaphysical ;-)

Roger


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The makefiles and  workspace simply list the source files, their
dependencies, and commands to the compiler tools ( a unix makefile is
esentially no different). Unless a new source file is added, or any
removed, there is no need to change them. Once I have a project
developed, often the only time I ever need to chnage the workspace is
when the next version of the compiler comes out!

Richard Dobson

Xopher wrote:
> 
> This may be a dumb question, but why are the makefiles and workspaces for
> the MS compiler from 1998.  Shouldn't these files have the same date as the
> latest version of Csound?  I'm referring to the files in "csound_src.zip" on
> the bath site, BTW.

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Mark Corwin wrote:
> 
> error: no legal opcode, line 48:
> kpint kexprand 4

kexprand has been changed to exprand. You should change
cecilia's base script or the output orc code before running 
with a new csound executable.

Generally, plenty of opcodes beginning with i or k has
gone through similar name changes recently (either the
i/k is removed, or it's moved to the end of the name). 
Run csound -z to get an opcode list, then you can ususally
find the new name and correct it on the fly.


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Yes, I understand, but several files have been added and a few removed since
then.  Thus, one must go through and selectively add files as necessary.
Basically, there will always be new files, because every opcode has a source
file.  In addition, the source code contains mk, mk1, lk1, and tgt files
dated 3/19/99.  I assume these files to be makefiles for other compilers.
But it is my understanding that a MS compiler is used for both Winsound and
Consound, and the appropriate makefiles date from May and June last year.
So my question remains... Why aren't the Windows makefiles updated?

-----Original Message-----
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The makefiles and  workspace simply list the source files, their
dependencies, and commands to the compiler tools ( a unix makefile is
esentially no different). Unless a new source file is added, or any
removed, there is no need to change them. Once I have a project
developed, often the only time I ever need to chnage the workspace is
when the next version of the compiler comes out!

Richard Dobson

Xopher wrote:
>
> This may be a dumb question, but why are the makefiles and workspaces for
> the MS compiler from 1998.  Shouldn't these files have the same date as
the
> latest version of Csound?  I'm referring to the files in "csound_src.zip"
on
> the bath site, BTW.

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