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Date1998-06-05 04:39
FromDrew Skyfyre
SubjectHTML format mail

Micheal wrote:
>I dont know about anybody else on this list but I cant read the html
>format emails very easily. unix shell account.... so I delete them and
>dont know what Im missing.... I could save them and them ftp them to my
>machine and open them with a www app but that seems like a big pain for
>email...

I have a similar problem.It would be nice if no one used HTML for 
e-mail,at least till evreyone on the planet has high speed ,glitch free 
,low cost access.

-Drew

Date1998-06-05 13:12
FromRobin Whittle
SubjectRe: HTML format mail
I agree that there is generally no need for HTML in emails.  The 
trouble is that a lot of people are sending it with no idea that it 
is happening, or what HTML is in the first place, because some 
all-singing-all-dancing programs default to this.

Emails should have lines no longer than 70 characters.  Its best to 
have blank lines between paragraphs.  I find it hard to understand 
why people post to a list without bothering to make their writing as 
communicative as possible, including using proper sentences and upper 
case letters.

Theres are also security reasons why HTML email should be 
resisted.  The email may include links to images on remote 
servers - enabling the operators of that server to know exactly when 
you read the email, and on which computer. (I understand that this 
technique has been used to locate a criminal - in the USA . . . of 
course . . .) Secondly, those images could, in extreme circumstances, 
be made to include illegal material, which would wind up on your 
screen and remain in your hard disk cache.

I think that making it normal for people to send and open HTML email 
is encouraging a potentially dangerous degree of Internet 
promiscuity (in terms of it causing your computer to contact any 
server in the world, based on an email you haven't even seen yet) 
whilst generally adding no more communication than is available 
through plain text.

Also, viewing an email with an HTML component (typically a copy of 
the text) with my Pegasus email program means that I have to face an 
additional dialogue box and click on the "No" button just to see it 
in ordinary text in the email program.  To open it in the web browser 
means you can't directly reply to it.


- Robin


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Robin Whittle     rw@firstpr.com.au  http://www.firstpr.com.au
                  Heidelberg Heights, Melbourne, Australia 

First Principles  Research and expression: music, Internet 
                  music marketing, telecommunications, human 
                  factors in technology adoption. Consumer 
                  advocacy in telecommunications, especially 
                  privacy. Consulting and technical writing. 

Real World        Electronics and software for music: eg.
Interfaces        the Devil Fish mods for the TB-303. 

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At 9:06 PM -0500 6/3/98, Hans Mikelson wrote:
>Hi,
>
>[Convolve example]
>
>Does anyone know how to make the sound come out at the begining of the sound
>file rather than having to put in this delay?

It's an artifact of how convolve works. No simple way around it. I usually
chop off the front of the file with either another pass through Csound or a
soundfile editing program.

Direct convolution which doesn't have the delay runs about 10,000 to
1,000,000 slower than convolve. To me the pain of calculating the delay and
working around it is a small price to pay for the million-fold increase in
speed.

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Dear Csounders:
First of all, I'd like to express my thanks to all of those which reply to
my previous e-mail. Problems with Csound and Cecilia are now solved. No big
deal, really, just the plain old stupid solution of trashing the preferences
(somehow, the old preferences were causing access conflicts, I don't know
why. I trashed them and that was it).
Nevertheless, Matt Ingalls told that they are preparing a new version of
Csound PPC - go for it - I will be more than happy, and grateful as always.
About Csound PPC - since Matt feels Mills college is being undeservedly
credited for something they have little or nothing about, I propose MBI ;-)
(for madole, Berry and Ingalls). Therefore, it should be named the Csound
PPC - MBI version. Of course, it could be IBM, but I think someone else
already took that name.
~What do you feel about it Matt?

Fernando Manuel Rodrigues

DANIEL RUVINA, SUCR., LDA.
Make sure you visit our site: http://www.ruvina.pt
Don't forget to add a link to it.




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Hi,
	A few weeks back someone (I forget who) suggested a freeware text
editor called PFE for use with csound. I downloaded the program and I've
found it very useful. It does have one quirk when using it with winsound:
After invoking PFE with the ">" button on the winsound console, you must
fully close PFE in order to get the winsound window back. If you minimize
PFE, the winsound window does not refresh properly. Does anyone have any
idea whether this is a problem with winsound? of PFE?? or both
interacting??? Admittedly, this is a minor irritation since PFE loads so
quickly, but it would be nice to keep it open & just minimize it.

Cheers,
Mark Vigorito
mtv@u.arizona.edu






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This will happen regardless of the editor used. Winsound is a very modal
program, which only responds to Windows messages (e.g. to redraw  windows)
when the code allows it to - which is not very often! In this case, it will
be almost entirely unresponsive until you quit the editor. There is an easy
solution, but it would have the side effect that multiple instances of your
editor would be started every time you click on the  > button.

Richard Dobson

Mark T Vigorito wrote:

> Hi,
>         A few weeks back someone (I forget who) suggested a freeware text
> editor called PFE for use with csound. I downloaded the program and I've
> found it very useful. It does have one quirk when using it with winsound:
> After invoking PFE with the ">" button on the winsound console, you must
> fully close PFE in order to get the winsound window back. If you minimize
> PFE, the winsound window does not refresh properly. Does anyone have any
> idea whether this is a problem with winsound? of PFE?? or both
> interacting??? Admittedly, this is a minor irritation since PFE loads so
> quickly, but it would be nice to keep it open & just minimize it.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark Vigorito
> mtv@u.arizona.edu






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From: Nicola Bernardini 
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The 3.482 distribution still suffers some of the problems I reported
some time ago for 3.481 (altough many other have been fixed, I suppose).
Here are some context diff patches if you want to solve the problems
described below. You can feed this mail to 'patch' and it'll fix the
sources.

Nicola

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Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe
the picture.  Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described
with pictures.
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opcode diskin:

1) skip time did not work at all, and file sample rate was incorrectely
   displayed (maybe Linux-specific, at any rate the code was wrong)

2) when transposition factor < 0, sound did not play if skiptime == 0

context-diff patch:
*** ./diskin.c.orig	Sun Apr  5 17:45:00 1998
--- ./diskin.c	Sat Jun  6 04:00:05 1998
***************
*** 140,146 ****
      hdrsize = hdr->hdrsize;
      p->filetyp = hdr->filetyp;  		/* copy type from headata */
      p->aiffdata = hdr->aiffdata;
!     p->sr = (short)hdr->sr;
      p->nchnls = (short)hdr->nchnls;
    }
    else {                                  /* no hdr:  find info elsewhere */
--- 140,146 ----
      hdrsize = hdr->hdrsize;
      p->filetyp = hdr->filetyp;  		/* copy type from headata */
      p->aiffdata = hdr->aiffdata;
!     p->sr = (long)hdr->sr;
      p->nchnls = (short)hdr->nchnls;
    }
    else {                                  /* no hdr:  find info elsewhere */
***************
*** 220,226 ****
      }
      else {
        p->begfile = TRUE;
!       if (*p->ktransp < 0) p->endfile = TRUE;
      }
  	 	    
      if ((n = sreadinew(sinfd,p->inbuf,SNDINEWBUFSIZ,p)) == 0) /* now rd fulbuf */
--- 220,226 ----
      }
      else {
        p->begfile = TRUE;
!       if (*p->ktransp < 0 && nbytes == p->audrem) p->endfile = TRUE;
      }
  	 	    
      if ((n = sreadinew(sinfd,p->inbuf,SNDINEWBUFSIZ,p)) == 0) /* now rd fulbuf */

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score reader:

comments get evaluated by recursive getscochar()/flushin() calls, and
special characters inside comments get evaluated (probably not what was
intended, I guess). To see what i mean, just try a sco file with a comment
like this:

; this [is] a comment

The square brackets get evaluated and the compiler stops.  The fix is
different from the previous one in trying to be nicer to the historical
sources (it's smaller and better, thanks to Robin Whittle's suggestions).
It does fix the problem reported.

context-diff patch:
*** ./sread.c.orig	Sat Jun  6 02:56:03 1998
--- ./sread.c	Sat Jun  6 02:56:51 1998
***************
*** 768,773 ****
--- 768,791 ----
  	linpos = 0;
  }
  
+ /*
+  * getscochar() does so much evaluation now that we cannot use flushlin()
+  * anymore to flush comment lines (otherwise they end up being evaluated too)
+  * so I added this one just to flush comment lines; this
+  * solution is ugly as hell but hey! I'm too afraid to break things in this
+  * glass house...
+  * [nicb@axnet.it]
+  */
+ static void flushcomments(void)
+ {
+ 	int c;
+ 
+ 	while ((c = getc(str->file)) != LF && c != EOF)
+ 		;
+ 	lincnt++;
+ 	linpos = 0;
+ }
+ 
  static int sget1(void)		/* get first non-white, non-comment char */
  {
  	int c;
***************
*** 778,784 ****
  			linpos = 0;
  		}
          if (c == ';' || c == 'c') {
! 		flushlin();
  		goto srch;
  	}
          if (c == '\\') {            /* Deal with continuations and specials */
--- 796,802 ----
  			linpos = 0;
  		}
          if (c == ';' || c == 'c') {
! 		flushcomments();
  		goto srch;
  	}
          if (c == '\\') {            /* Deal with continuations and specials */




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From: Nicola Bernardini 
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The 3.482 version of csound for linux is now mirrored at the AIMI
(Italian Association for Computer Music) site in Genova:

	ftp://musart.dist.unige.it/CSOUND

This distribution contains the two small patches reported in a previous
mail to this list.

Nicola

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Nicola Bernardini
E-mail: nicb@axnet.it
 
Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe
the picture.  Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described
with pictures.