| On Sat, 30 May 1998, Hans Mikelson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thought I would try my hand at a vocoder. This score is set up for a
> soundin.11 file of 8.69 seconds.
I actually wrote a VB thing that lets u specify 2 sound files, mod and
carrier, as well as sliders for the freq and width of each band. The
bands are seperate for mod and carrier so you can map diff frequencies to
strange places. It generates score and orc files, runs csound and plays
the sound file. Might be worth doing a websearch for 'Matt's Shoddy
Vocoder'. I'll dig it out at some point. Currently nursing a broken
collar bone and typing one handed so it's all a bit tricky..
Matt
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Subject: MIDI to Csound Conversion
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Hailing Frequencies Open .
I'm looking for advice re: converting multi-track MIDI files to Csound
scores.I've come across some Csound specfic apps for this on the 'bahn
and would appreciate opinions about which tools you've used and have had
success with.
I'll be getting Finale soon (I hope) and would like to be able to
convert the resulting MIDI files to Csound scores with minimum pain.
Terry Cast wrote:
>converting MIDI files to scores that meets at least some of the following
criteria:
>
>1. reliably translates channel number to instrument number, and velocity and
>note number to given p-fields;
>
>2. optionally translates pitch-bend, aftertouch, continuous controllers,
>etc.,
>to user-definable p-fields;
>
>3. translates tempos;
>
>4. allows the user to convert selected tracks and/or measures (so the entire
>song isn't compiled, to save time).
This seems like a reasonable first wish list.
BTW,I'm on a PowerMac.
Cheers,
Drew
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From: Fernando Rodrigues
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Subject: Csound 3.47 crashes on PowerMac with MacOS 8.0 ???
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Dear Csounders:
I recently upgraded to MacOS 8. Generally, I am more than happy, since my
old PowerMac 7100 seems to be smoother and faster. However, I am
experiencing a strange behaviour with Csound. I have two versions, being one
the "Mills" version. I also have Cecilia v2.0.2, which came with version
3.47
I trashed all other "Perf" versions, as advised by the authors of Cecilia,
and replaced the version in Csound folder by the new one (the other - "Mac
csound PPC" remains the same, but, since this is just a front end... or am I
wrong?).
I also have another version called Csound PPC (the icon is like a C crossed
by a rainbow). I don't remember where did I got that one, but I also used
it, with the same results.
Now - what happens: as soon as I try to compile anything, it reads the score
perfectly, then displays a message telling it is loading the orchestra and
hangs.
I had realtime audio switched on, and switched it off now, but the computer
still hangs.
Does anyone out there experienced something like this? And what is the
possible solution for it? Look forward to hear from you.
Fernando Manuel Rodrigues
Consultant for Electronic and Computer Music
MIDI and Digital Audio
DANIEL RUVINA, SUCR., LDA.
Make sure you visit our site: http://www.ruvina.pt
Don't forget to add a link to it.
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From: Micheal Allen Thompson
To: Drew Skyfyre
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Subject: Re: Why Csound ?/Hardware v/s Software
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depends on your compositional style... The stuff I do I cant use MIDI or
synths...
M
On Sun, 31 May 1998, Drew Skyfyre wrote:
> Wotcha !
>
> The foll. is a personal opinion :-)
>
> Gotta say something about the hardware v/s software thing
> though,especially in light of the responses to Kay 's "Why Csound"
> question.Software solutions still have a way to go.We're
> at the first generation of systems approaching resonable real-time
> performance on personal computers.
>
> And from what I've seen so far ,Csound is in need of a comprehensive
> rewrite,especially the Mac version.according to recent posts.Oui,non ?
>
> IMO, you still have to have at least one reasonably powerful (as in lots
> of real-time parameter control via MIDI) hardware multi-timbral
> ,polyphonic synthesizer.It's asking for trouble
> to rely only on software synths.Especially if you're a professional or
> just need quick,good results.This does not mean you have to get the
> latest and greatest.Look in the used synth market.Great bargains out
> there (especially Yamaha FM synths).
>
> My approach is to put together an approximation of a composition with a
> hardware synth,and then go about synthesizing exotic and complex
> instrument parts in software systems (Csound,etc.) to better represent
> the music I hear in my head.
>
> BTW,anyone (everyone :-))in the market for a synth,stc,be sure to look up
> the user comments sections at & also either
> at or (not sure which).Invaluable
> stuff.
>
> Oh,and about :
> >=cw4t7abs
> >To: Csound list
> >
> >www.symbolicsound.com
> >
> >>Any comments, in private or on list, would be more than welcome.
>
> What the hell do you want us to say ? Wish we all had a Kyma so we could
> ? Have you completely lost your mind ? Loopey to the tonsils,what ?
> Is tezcat.com a crackpot domain ? Get a grip for crying out loud !
>
>
> Cheers,
> Drew
>
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Dear Csounders,
In response to the query about Ensonic's Paris system there is a review
in Keyboard Magazine, July Issue (and it ain't even June). A nice long
review which condensed:
PCI board with 6 chips for mixing and effects for either Mac or Wintel
Three versions of In/Out hardware -
a: Stereo i/o box
b: quad i/o, S/PDFI i/o rackmount
c: modular rackmount box with the b already in place and 9 expansion
slots for 8 in or out 24 bits expansion, ADAT lightpipe i/o
16 channel fader table top with knobs for aux and eq and transport
control.
recording/mixing software Mac or Wintel - up to 24 bits but no built in
sequencer.
Separate lite versions of Wavelab or Bias stereo editing software,
although you can't run it through Paris' outputs.
Can run all 16 channels on a133MHz PC or 150 MHz Mac with 4 eq's on each
channel plus 8 subs (such as reverb) or 16 channel inserts such as
(compressors) in realtime with the PCI board doing the work - effects are
like Ensonic's effect boxes.
Can play a total 128 tracks at once, though all but 16 are premixed.
Add as many PCI boards as your computer can hold, each playing 16 tracks
as above.
The reviewer stated that mixing a voice over project was kludgy, but that
a recording project worked great, esp. being able to mix with the fader
box - almost like analog.
Alan
Alan Tubbs/Mary Hestand
BadDog Productions
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Subject: Re: Csound 3.47 crashes on PowerMac with MacOS 8.0 ???
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I had similar problems and solved them by allocating more memory to csound
using apple/i (get info).
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Subject: Low cost Multi-track Software for Macs ?
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Hi All,
Anyone know of any low cost multitrack audio recording software for
PowerMacs , especially shareware ? Seems a pretty simple thing to
implement in faster PowerMacs,so I was surprised to not be able to find
any on the 'bahn.Digidesign's old $200 Session seems to have vanished.
In case anyone's interested,Macromedia's anounced it's discontinuing
Deck-II,something about integrating the technology into some other
multimedia product.
Digital Performer and the like I cannot afford, given my already
stretched <d. budget .
I'm also hoping Event electronics gets the Mac drivers for it's amazingly
low cost PCI digital audio boards done soon.They're at
in case anyone wants to go bug them about it.
Thanks in advance,
Drew
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From: Burton Alexandre
Subject: Re: Low cost Multi-track Software for Macs ?
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On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Drew Skyfyre wrote:
>
> Anyone know of any low cost multitrack audio recording software for
> PowerMacs , especially shareware ? Seems a pretty simple thing to
> implement in faster PowerMacs,so I was surprised to not be able to find
> any on the 'bahn.Digidesign's old $200 Session seems to have vanished.
> In case anyone's interested,Macromedia's anounced it's discontinuing
> Deck-II,something about integrating the technology into some other
> multimedia product.
> Digital Performer and the like I cannot afford, given my already
> stretched <d. budget .
I don't know if the offer still stands, but Digidesing was (this winter)
giving away CD's of ProTools3.4 along with the ProMix driver (that
enables Protools to run without hardware). It only has EQ builtin,
though. On a 7300/180 i was getting a solid 16 tracks (the realtime maximum
allowed by ProMix). Check on their web site, i got mine in the mail by
filling a form there.
Alex.
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I had a lot of problems with this, the same as you are having. You need
to go to the Mills site and download the latest versions of Perf and
Csound. I recall that it was a bit difficult to find the latest
versions. Another problem I had was that text files you use must by in
Macintosh format; use your editor to resave Unix or DOS text files to
Mac format; the other platforms insert different characters at the end
of lines that tend to screw things up. I hope this helps.
Fernando Rodrigues wrote:
>
> Dear Csounders:
> I recently upgraded to MacOS 8. Generally, I am more than happy, since my
> old PowerMac 7100 seems to be smoother and faster. However, I am
> experiencing a strange behaviour with Csound. I have two versions, being one
> the "Mills" version. I also have Cecilia v2.0.2, which came with version
> 3.47
> I trashed all other "Perf" versions, as advised by the authors of Cecilia,
> and replaced the version in Csound folder by the new one (the other - "Mac
> csound PPC" remains the same, but, since this is just a front end... or am I
> wrong?).
> I also have another version called Csound PPC (the icon is like a C crossed
> by a rainbow). I don't remember where did I got that one, but I also used
> it, with the same results.
> Now - what happens: as soon as I try to compile anything, it reads the score
> perfectly, then displays a message telling it is loading the orchestra and
> hangs.
> I had realtime audio switched on, and switched it off now, but the computer
> still hangs.
> Does anyone out there experienced something like this? And what is the
> possible solution for it? Look forward to hear from you.
>
> Fernando Manuel Rodrigues
> Consultant for Electronic and Computer Music
> MIDI and Digital Audio
>
> DANIEL RUVINA, SUCR., LDA.
> Make sure you visit our site: http://www.ruvina.pt
> Don't forget to add a link to it.
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From: Carlton Wilkinson
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Subject: Re: Ensoniq Paris
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What are the latest prices in ProTools? Did they drop at all? The card,
software, interface, et al.
--
Carlton Joseph Wilkinson
http://excaliber.net/alex/wilkwrks.htm
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> to go to the Mills site and download the latest versions of Perf and
> Csound. I recall that it was a bit difficult to find the latest
the two you want are at: ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc
files: perf3.47(beta3) and
CSound_FrontEnd_0.3.2
once dave gets back in town all files, documentation will be cleaned up.
(and a new version)
sorry for the confusion.
-matt
P.S. some whining: in my opinion, Mills
College is undeservedly associated/credited with the "Mills"
CSound version.
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Subject: Re: Ensoniq Paris
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I just got the pro-tools Powermix and audio-media package (AMIII card and
Pro-tools 4 software) which is now =A3400 giving you the software free.
There's 16 tracks of playback and 2 recording but it isn't TDM. However I
would recommend it as it's got great editing and the sync etc is much bette=
r
than VST.
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>I just got the pro-tools Powermix and audio-media package (AMIII card and
>Pro-tools 4 software
protoolz zukx
>) which is now =A3400 giving you the software free.
>There's 16 tracks of playback
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>and 2 recording but it isn't TDM.
tdm zukx
>However I
>would recommend it as it's got great editing and the sync etc is much bette=
r
>than VST.
vst zukx
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Subject: Re: Possible errors in Csound 3.48b HTML manual
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doscil is an Extended Csound opcode I think, for drum sounds.
Should not be in the manual (without a star at least)
==John
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Subject: Re: Possible errors in Csound 3.48b HTML manual
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doscil is an Extended Csound opcode I think, for drum sounds.
Should not be in the manual (without a star at least)
==John
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