| Try using pv_export to interrogate the PV file. Rather overkill but....
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Winhlp_for_csound_355.zip is now in pub/dream/newest
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INDEED, aside from the sound design issues, the score origination is very
problematic. I've recently been looking at Common Music a bit, it looks as
if it will be useful. Another thing I've found recently too, is Cmask by
Andre Bartetzki, it generates immeidately usable csound sco files. The
package comes with very interesting example files, it's easy to get it up
and running and experimenting with, it will generate many score events
quickly, according to various algorhytmic things, etc etc. Mainly, I've
just been playing with the examples a couple of days, but the documentation
is very good. . . find stuff about it, and it itself at (from one of the
docs pages I have):
"CMask runs currently only on Macs, PowerMacs, SGI IRIX 5.3. and WIN95
Program, manual and examples are available at:
download page
ftp://ftp.kgw.tu-berlin.de/pub/cmask/
For further information about CMask and other utilities as well as computer
music activities in Berlin check out my website.
http://www.kgw.tu-berlin.de/~abart/ "
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> NTUPLET@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Although many users are
> > content with this format, higher level score processing languages are
often
> > convenient."
> >
> > What higher launguages?
> > I thought CSOUND would be pretty darn good!
>
> Well, if you like composing songs in the following format:
>
> i99 0 61
>
> i1 0 7.5 .16 .223 .63 2.3 .32 1 .96 1 .53 1 1 .42 1 .9 1 1
> i1 0 7.7 .222 .15 .74 2.4 .24 .98 1.01 1 .53 1
>
> ...Csound is great for composing. However, if you need to do this for more
than 30 or so notes, the
> above gets pretty old. It all depends on what type of music you want to
do. If your composition is
> made up of only a few sonic events, each of which is very complex, then
doing scores in the above
> manner will work out well (the above lines were an excerpt from a
composition I did a few months
> ago). If you wish to have many hundreds of notes in a piece, as most
"traditional" music does, you
> should look into a score processing/generating language. I have used
Common Music, a LISP-based
> score generating program. Not the easiest language to learn, but it
certainly makes "note"-based
> music much easier to handle.
>
> Sean Costello
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i just put the binaries and sources up on the bath/incoming site
and mills site.
transport/perf is more responsive yet RT sound might be even more
flakey. most likely this week i will release a file playback
app that might be nice to use as "post processor" instead...
=======================================
june21.99
Csound for Power Macintosh
=======================================
This Version:
fFitch code base 3.55
Perf "engine" 3.5.5
Csound "front end" 1.2
Available From:
www.concentric.net/~Mingalls/software/csound
ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/
ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/
=======================================
changes from 3.54/FrontEnd 1.1.4
=======================================
Perf:
- Upgraded source to 3.55
- Fixed "overwriting" printing errors
in the output window.
- Removed some unneeded and conflicting
error messages
- transport is more responsive
- some fiddling with RT sound....
Note: this version requires an additional file
"csound.txt" to be inside your "perf" directory
or one of the sound/analysis directories.
Front End:
- bug fix by Steven Beck opening MIDI files
- automatic MIDI file selection when open orc.
=======================================
Please email bugs to csound-dev@mills.edu
-matt
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could someone comment on bol processor?...has anyone worked with it?
thanks in advance,
mark polishook
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I downloaded the Bosendorfer samples I believe about '95. I've sent them to
no one else. The main thing I was doing wrong, was I didn't have the sense
to realize I needed to have a midi file for them to be written from, I was
thinking the sco was all needed. I admit to missing the obvious. Still,
there has beeen a problem with using aif format, it seems cool edit does
weird things with the format that makes it unreadable, but then soundforge
does ok. I don't know. I'm just learning. thanks for your attention.
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> Those Bosendorfer samples are proprietry, and should not be in
> circulation. I cannot find them on the Bath servers anyway. Ask
> Richard Boulanger if yoi want teh whole story but they were
> incorrectly placed on teh MIT server at some time, and from there they
> migrated.
>
> Apart from that, the use of sndinfo was flawed in two ways
>
> 1) File names with spaces in them need use of "" or some such
>
> 2) you did not have csound.txt in a readable place. Hence no
> response.
>
> It is hard to see what you are doing wrong. I have used those
> Bosendorfer samples with no troubles in teh past. If i ever get any
> time I will look at the reports.
>
> ==John
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I downloaded the Bosendorfer samples I believe about '95. I've sent them to
no one else. The main thing I was doing wrong, was I didn't have the sense
to realize I needed to have a midi file for them to be written from, I was
thinking the sco was all needed. I admit to missing the obvious. Still,
there has beeen a problem with using aif format, it seems cool edit does
weird things with the format that makes it unreadable, but then soundforge
does ok. I don't know. I'm just learning. thanks for your attention.
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> Those Bosendorfer samples are proprietry, and should not be in
> circulation. I cannot find them on the Bath servers anyway. Ask
> Richard Boulanger if yoi want teh whole story but they were
> incorrectly placed on teh MIT server at some time, and from there they
> migrated.
>
> Apart from that, the use of sndinfo was flawed in two ways
>
> 1) File names with spaces in them need use of "" or some such
>
> 2) you did not have csound.txt in a readable place. Hence no
> response.
>
> It is hard to see what you are doing wrong. I have used those
> Bosendorfer samples with no troubles in teh past. If i ever get any
> time I will look at the reports.
>
> ==John
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Is there an archive of the list somewhere with, say one file per year,
or at least one per month?
I did find some archive (I think on bath?), but it is spread across
literally more than one hundred tiny files. Looks like one per week or
someething like that!
Larry
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Hi, I just downloaded the latest sources from the bath site, and can't
seem to find the code that sets real-time priority and locks memory.
Is this an oversight, or is it intentionally left out? I notice that the
code is there (well, still no memlock), in the unoficial Linux version.
However, I had problems building that version (running csound results in
"error loading dynamic libraries, xfilename not found").
Since the build process seems much simpler for the official version, and
since I can't see the reason for a seperate distribution of essentially
the same program, I guess I'll locally modify my code to add the
set_scheduler call. But it would be helpfull for me to know if there was
a reason not to include it (it *is* absoutely needed on Linux for
real-time work, at least on my machine).
Larry
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how do i get 3.55 to write to a wave Mr John????
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I have replaced csound_win.zip (and csound_src.zip) as i had a stupid
error in devaudio/dac names.
==John ffitch
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The Bath archive is one file per day. From that you can work out the
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I do not have access to the sources of the other Linux version; the
files on the Bath server are the files I use for all builds. I
incorporate operating system specific code as I can, but if I am not
given it it does not get incorporated. Actually the Linux system is
the main one I use, together with SGI.
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From: Andrew Lyons
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Subject: Re: re techno bashing
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:53:21 EST
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In trying to understand techno, people make the mistake of evaluating
it using the one dimensional musical comprehension of other traditions. T=
hey=20
fail to see beyond the complexity or lack thereof in the beat. The best w=
ay=20
to understand techno is to think of it as being like a sonic version of a=
=20
visual stereogram.
When you first look at it, its just a whole lot of repeating colours.
Not much to it really, but if you look long enough, or know how to look, =
and=20
the composer knows what they are doing, you see straight through into a n=
ew=20
space.
Plus its good for 140bpm double time dancing if you like that kind of thi=
ng.
>From: Josep M Comajuncosas
>To: MintMilano@aol.com
>CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: re techno bashing
>Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:52:23 +0200
>
>MintMilano@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I don't
> > believe it is possible to make a piece of music or sound without=20
>structure,
> > because music exists in time, which is linear; therefore, when it is=20
>over,
> > you can look back at whatever happened in a linear way, and there's y=
our
> > structure.
>
>I particularly enjoy conceiving the inner structure of the whale singing=
s..=20
>We -
>listeners- create the structure. It sometimes matches the composer =B4s=20
>original
>structural conception, it sometimes not. Simplistic repetitive patterns =
are=20
>the
>worst thing we can do for our imagination and creativity, for our freedo=
m=20
>to
>create, this is totalitary music. I remember reading in a magazine that =
the
>chinese government was promoting (occidental) discos in Tibet. I perfect=
ly
>understand why.
>
> > Humans are not hard-coded
> > machines that can only perceive sound driven by beats.
>
>Yep!
>
>--
>Josep M Comajuncosas
>C/ Circumval.lacio 75 08790 Gelida - Penedes
>Catalunya - SPAIN
>home phone : 93 7792243 / 00 34 3 7792243
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Subject: specptrk info
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Hi all,
The manual is a little vague in regards to the employment of specptrk.
wsig is a pvoc file type correct? But how does specptrk need it prepared for
input?
This is the example the manual offers:
koct specptrk wsig
This is the usage the manual offers:
koct specptrk wsig, inptls, irolloff, iodd[, interp, ifprd, iwtflg]
Here is an example of the orc file Ive been playing with. Any remedies
greatly appreciated. Ive been wanting to do this for months on and off:
sr = 44100
kr = 25
ksmps = 1764
nchnls = 1
instr 1
ktime line 0, p3, p3
; pvbufread ktime, "infile.pv"
koct specptrk wsig , 1, 1, 0
kdump cpsoct(koct), "outfile" , 8, 0
endin
How exactly does one import and input file type wsig!!!!!
Cheers
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