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Re: Reverb quest, again

Date1999-05-03 03:56
FromPaul Winkler
SubjectRe: Reverb quest, again
Tobiah wrote:

> It is amazing to me how dry it is out there when it comes to reverb.
> I have long been looking for a fully configurable command line reverb
> filter that has that unmistakable realism that you are talking about.

That would be pretty darn cool.

I remember there was a Cmix instrument ("place" or "space") or something
that sounded pretty decent and was pretty much a command-line tool ...
one of these days I'll have to check out Cmix again, it's a lot easier
to run than Csound if all you want to do is process a file.

> If command line is not important to you however, that is, if you don't
> need to be able to set up programs to run the reverb automatically, then
> you might have a look at the Snd sound editor:

I'm using Snd more and more these days, but somehow I hadn't noticed
that it came with reverb! It's like emacs in more ways than one --
there's a LOT of functionality in there, but it's not all right on the
surface. (I don't know how I missed that reverb slider, though.)

> Come to think of it, the DAP sound editor has some very impressive
> dsp algorithms, including reverbs with more parameters then you
> might know what to do with.  The difference is that it is much
> slower (this is a good thing!)

Yeah, I've been using DAP as well. It's really nice, though there are
some basic interface design things that really bug me (all those damn
windows!) It has three reverb types -- Moorer, Schroeder, and Multi-Tap.
I think the Moorer sounds pretty good, but using it on a five-minute
file (which I want to do here) is enough to kill me. Maybe I should look
into the DAP source code and see if I understand anything. (I think DAP
treats everything internally as a double rather than a float, which is
probably why it's so slow?)

> Now that I re-read your message, I see that you may have meant csound
> reverbs only.  Oh well...

I appreciate the help, especially pointing out the Snd features right
under my nose! Yeah, I -do- want a really good Csound reverb so I can do
fun things with a virtual effects bus without having to do a bunch of
gymnastics getting things into and out of different applications.

But what I wouldn't give to be able to type at the prompt:

reverb infile.wav outfile.wav
--with user-configurable defaults for everything, and then just make
aliases for your favorite settings...

Hell, that could be a Perl (or whatever) script creating and invoking
Csound orcs and sco's, if only I could get Csound to sound really good!


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