| Last time I saw Barry was in August -- he is still at MIT Media Lab;
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questions about birthdays.
==John
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I do not see any envlpxr opcode in the sources. Which manual pages
are you using?
==John
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>I do not see any envlpxr opcode in the sources. Which manual pages
>are you using?
>==John
>
Its Csound HTML version 3.48 compiled by John FFitch! Its not listed in the
quick reference section but is present on the reference page for envlpx.
A typo?
Ken
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>I do not see any envlpxr opcode in the sources. Which manual pages
>are you using?
>==John
>
Its Csound HTML version 3.48 compiled by John FFitch! Its not listed in the
quick reference section but is present on the reference page for envlpx.
A typo?
Ken
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Hi Everybody
I'm new to the list and relatively inexperienced in csound (though I've
used it from time to time since the mid eighties, its never been my main
tool)
I'm trying to set up an orc with a student at the Guildhall which will
do some realtime filtering (using reson) under Midi control but I can't
seem to get an input from sound manager. I've tried -idevaudio and -idac
in the commandline (with ins in the orc) but neither seem to work (though
both would appear to output to sound manager with -o) what am I doing
wrong?
also can I make it work with a protools 880 interface or an audiomedia 2
card
also what should the score look like for realtime work, how long does the
instrument stay active.
Thanks for reading this, hope someone can help
Nye
Nye Parry
City University &
Guildhall School of Music and Drama
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Greenwood_apel-os, Karl wrote:
>
> > archive up there? Is it really a spam magnet? Should we get rid of it?
> i use egroups and have as yet to be spammed, they seem fairly secure
I'd like to get a clearer idea of this...
How long have you been using it, and for how many groups, and how many
messages do you post?
Sooner or later, I *really* hope this archive thing gets sorted out.
It's been driving me nuts for months. Only a few other people seem
interested, though.
--PW
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---Nye Parry wrote:
> I'm trying to set up an orc with a student at the Guildhall which will
> do some realtime filtering (using reson) under Midi control but I
can't
> seem to get an input from sound manager. I've tried -idevaudio and
-idac
> in the commandline (with ins in the orc) but neither seem to work
(though
> both would appear to output to sound manager with -o) what am I doing
> wrong?
hmm... I usually use the frontend...
Anyways, I think that the real-time ability f CSound doesn't go much
far back... I might be wrong, never tried it before. I have been
successful with the version 4.484b. Ver. 4.485 seems to be hanging
when you try to use audio input.
> also can I make it work with a protools 880 interface or an
audiomedia 2
> card
I used Korg1212 last night and all I did was to set "sound"control
panel to Korg as an input&output. This way CSound uses whatever sound
manager routes it to. Guess that's how it works. But it works :)
> also what should the score look like for realtime work, how long
does the
> instrument stay active.
the score could be as simple as:
;ins start duration
i1 0 60
which will keep perf active for a minute.
otherwise you can assign p-fields and use a 'regular' score.
> Thanks for reading this, hope someone can help
>
hope that helps.
mike
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> seem to get an input from sound manager. I've tried -idevaudio and
-idac
you need "-iadc" -- or you can just use the front end and push "Audio
In" check box...
--- You wrote:
successful with the version 4.484b. Ver. 4.485 seems to be hanging
when you try to use audio input.
--- end of quote ---
yea- we havent tested it much, but it appears that audio in is fucked up
on the newer versions at least for OS8-- but you may want to give it
a try and let me know how it works...
again you are not going to get "realtime" because buffers will have to
be pretty big for anything other than simple in->out...
most recent version is an "unofficial" beta of 3.49 next few days i
will get the newest version out - i might check out audio...
-matt
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Hi folks.
Due to server problems at ANU we are unable to access newsgroups, and so, I
beg your forgiveness for this entirely off topic message.
I've written a real-time midi program in C that spits out random notes and
onsets. What I'd like to do is to control the range of the randomness with
the mouse. Quickdraw.h defines a structure called point that stores the
x,y values of screen pixels. Being very much a beginner as far as
addressing the Mac events modus operandi, I'm unsure how to go about
accessing coordinate info with the mouse, and unsure about whether I need
to open a window first or not.
If anyone could point me in the right direction I would be most grateful.
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Arne
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My understanding of the history of csound is as follows:- In 1968 Barry
Vercoe produced his first version of the MusicN family of programs, Music
360. Written in IBM 360 assembler it was machine-specific to the IBM
360/370 family of mainframe computers, but for me at least ran very well
in the wee small hours. Its origins, of course go back to Max Mathews
MusicIV program written at Bell Telephone Laboratories (1962) and subject
itself to a number of improvements, such as Music IVB, the work of Godfey
Winham at Princeton University (1966-7). Matthews himself produced a
FORTRAN (and hence portable) version called MusicV also in 1968, but the
lineage to csound is via MUSIC360.
In 1973 Barry Vercoe produced Music11. This again was in assembler and
machine-specific to the PDP11. Since this is a minicomputer many studios
were able to run it (under licence) on their own machines. I believe I may
have been the first licensee to run it on the LSI version of the PDP, the
PDP11/23, here at the University of Durham in the UK. It is sobering to
reflect that Music 11 would run in just 64k (yes 64k) of memory, and
although there were practical restrictions on memory intensive functions
such as reverb it was perfectly possible to generate complex multivoice
textures. You still had to wait around though for the machine to number
crunch and for big synthesis runs a good local restaurant was a must.
Csound emerged directly from Music11 in 1986. I believe he would have
liked to have called it MusicC, but since Richard Moore had developed a
rival synthesis program called Cmusic at UCSD in 1985 the potential for
confusion is obvious. Initially Csound ran at MIT on Vaxes and MicroVaxes
under Unix 4.2 BSD and on Hewlett Packard Bobcat workstations under
HP-Unix, but others managed to make it go on PDP11s Expanding the memory
to 128K worked wonders in this respect. The rest,as they say, is history.
Peter Manning
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--- Copy of mail to nunativs@jps.net ---
Checking it all the coddde seems to have been lost although the
structures were declared. I have included the code in the 3.49
sources which I hope will be available soon.
==John ffitch |