Hello Everyone,

I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new Raspberry Pi 4+

- the performance is great. (much much better than a 3+)

- it is running CsoundQt (beautifully)

AND

- I just plug in a USB MIDI Keyboard and it plays and maps MIDI perfectly to CSD and CsoundQt instruments!

AND

- Audio sounds pretty great out of the built-in output

BUT

- I am just plugging in a Behringer USB Audio Interface (and it just works and works great)

or 

- I am just plugging in a Behringer USB Audio Mixer with a TRS MIC preamp (and it just works and works great)

- transferring over all my .csds via the chromium web browser (part of the raspian OS)

I have some audio cards and will explore more of this later, but I am very happy with these USB solutions for now!

Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install xxx - wow!!!)

And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install simply and run too!

- especially thrilled about Audacity.

It's this simple:

sudo apt-get install csound

sudo apt-get install csoundqt

sudo apt-get install audacity

sudo apt-get install paulstretch

sudo apt-get install ardour

sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)

BUT...  what is missing is:

sudo apt-get install cabbage

sudo apt-get install blue

AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!

Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?

Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?

Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside? 

Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China from October 11-28, I will be building Csound synths with all my students over there too.

I am sure that you all knew this already - but... can't wait to discuss further at the conference.

Could this be a tipping point?  I think so.

-dB

PS.  Steven - I forgot to try running live.csound on it from Chromium Browser but I will do that later today.

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

Hello Everyone,

I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new Raspberry Pi 4+

- the performance is great. (much much better than a 3+)

- it is running CsoundQt (beautifully)

AND

- I just plug in a USB MIDI Keyboard and it plays and maps MIDI perfectly to CSD and CsoundQt instruments!

AND

- Audio sounds pretty great out of the built-in output

BUT

- I am just plugging in a Behringer USB Audio Interface (and it just works and works great)

or 

- I am just plugging in a Behringer USB Audio Mixer with a TRS MIC preamp (and it just works and works great)

- transferring over all my .csds via the chromium web browser (part of the raspian OS)

I have some audio cards and will explore more of this later, but I am very happy with these USB solutions for now!

Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install xxx - wow!!!)

And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install simply and run too!

- especially thrilled about Audacity.

It's this simple:

sudo apt-get install csound

sudo apt-get install csoundqt

sudo apt-get install audacity

sudo apt-get install paulstretch

sudo apt-get install ardour

sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)

BUT...  what is missing is:

sudo apt-get install cabbage

sudo apt-get install blue

AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!

Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?

Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?

Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside? 

Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China from October 11-28, I will be building Csound synths with all my students over there too.

I am sure that you all knew this already - but... can't wait to discuss further at the conference.

Could this be a tipping point?  I think so.

-dB

PS.  Steven - I forgot to try running live.csound on it from Chromium Browser but I will do that later today.

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

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Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
(active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...

Richard

On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>> Raspberry Pi 4+
> [...]
>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>
>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>> simply and run too!
>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>
>> It's this simple:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install csound
>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>
>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>
>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>
>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>
>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
> need to be the authors.
>
>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>
>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
> In terms of latency
> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>
> good luck!P
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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I second the motion to use ctcsound.

Regards,
Mike

-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>
> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>
> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
> author, he may offer assistance.
>
> I highly recommend it.
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes!
>
> Olivier
>
> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>> > * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>> >> Hello Everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>> >> Raspberry Pi 4+
>> > [...]
>> >> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>> >> xxx - wow!!!)
>> >>
>> >> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>> >> simply and run too!
>> >> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>> >>
>> >> It's this simple:
>> >>
>> >> sudo apt-get install csound
>> >> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>> >> sudo apt-get install audacity
>> >> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>> >> sudo apt-get install ardour
>> >> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>> > Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>> >
>> >> BUT...  what is missing is:
>> >>
>> >> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>> >> sudo apt-get install blue
>> >>
>> >> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>> >>
>> >> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>> >> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>> >>
>> >> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>> >> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>> > Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>> > need to be the authors.
>> >
>> >> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>> >>
>> >> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>> >> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>> >> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>> > In terms of latency
>> > https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>> > https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>> > might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>> >
>> > good luck!P
>> >
>> > Csound mailing list
>> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> > Send bugs reports to
>> >          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>
>> Csound mailing list
>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>> Send bugs reports to
>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:

mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
Preferences file not found
pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
in <module>
    import PreferencePanel
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
25, in <module>
    from Widgets import *
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets

To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:

mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
[GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from wx import *
>>> from pyo import *
pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>> from numpy import *
>>> from csnd6 import *
>>> import Cecilia4Csound
Preferences file not found
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
    import PreferencePanel
  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
    from Widgets import *
  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
> >
> > For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
> >
> > Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
> > author, he may offer assistance.
> >
> > I highly recommend it.
> >
> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> > Maynooth University
> > Ireland
> >
> > On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
> >
> > I'll let you know how it goes!
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
> >> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
> >> > * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
> >> >> Hello Everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
> >> >> Raspberry Pi 4+
> >> > [...]
> >> >> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
> >> >> xxx - wow!!!)
> >> >>
> >> >> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
> >> >> simply and run too!
> >> >> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's this simple:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get install csound
> >> >> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
> >> >> sudo apt-get install audacity
> >> >> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
> >> >> sudo apt-get install ardour
> >> >> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
> >> > Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
> >> >
> >> >> BUT...  what is missing is:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get install cabbage
> >> >> sudo apt-get install blue
> >> >>
> >> >> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
> >> >>
> >> >> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
> >> >> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
> >> >>
> >> >> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
> >> >> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
> >> > Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
> >> > need to be the authors.
> >> >
> >> >> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
> >> >> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
> >> >> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
> >> > In terms of latency
> >> > https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
> >> > https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
> >> > might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
> >> >
> >> > good luck!P
> >> >
> >> > Csound mailing list
> >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >> > Send bugs reports to
> >> >          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>
> >> Csound mailing list
> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >> Send bugs reports to
> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Csound mailing list
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Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:

sudo pip install -U pyo

Olivier

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:

mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
Preferences file not found
pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
in <module>
    import PreferencePanel
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
25, in <module>
    from Widgets import *
  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets

To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:

mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
[GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> from wx import *
>>> from pyo import *
pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>> from numpy import *
>>> from csnd6 import *
>>> import Cecilia4Csound
Preferences file not found
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
    import PreferencePanel
  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
    from Widgets import *
  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets


-----------------------------------------------------
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
> >
> > For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
> >
> > Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
> > author, he may offer assistance.
> >
> > I highly recommend it.
> >
> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> > Maynooth University
> > Ireland
> >
> > On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
> >
> > I'll let you know how it goes!
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
> >> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
> >> > * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
> >> >> Hello Everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
> >> >> Raspberry Pi 4+
> >> > [...]
> >> >> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
> >> >> xxx - wow!!!)
> >> >>
> >> >> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
> >> >> simply and run too!
> >> >> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's this simple:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get install csound
> >> >> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
> >> >> sudo apt-get install audacity
> >> >> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
> >> >> sudo apt-get install ardour
> >> >> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
> >> > Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
> >> >
> >> >> BUT...  what is missing is:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get install cabbage
> >> >> sudo apt-get install blue
> >> >>
> >> >> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
> >> >>
> >> >> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
> >> >> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
> >> >>
> >> >> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
> >> >> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
> >> > Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
> >> > need to be the authors.
> >> >
> >> >> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
> >> >> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
> >> >> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
> >> > In terms of latency
> >> > https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
> >> > https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
> >> > might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
> >> >
> >> > good luck!P
> >> >
> >> > Csound mailing list
> >> > Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> > https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >> > Send bugs reports to
> >> >          https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >> > Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >>
> >> Csound mailing list
> >> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> >> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> >> Send bugs reports to
> >>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> >> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
> >
> > Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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Can't wait to apt-get Cecilia4Csound on my pi4 AND... can't wait to download it and run it on my Mac and Windows10 laptops with my students!!

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cecilia4Csound starts up now.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick advice.
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 21:22 Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:
>>>
>>> sudo pip install -U pyo
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
>>>> 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>> To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
>>>> Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
>>>> [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>> from wx import *
>>>>>>> from pyo import *
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>>>>> from numpy import *
>>>>>>> from csnd6 import *
>>>>>>> import Cecilia4Csound
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
>>>>>> author, he may offer assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly recommend it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>>>>>>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi 4+
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>>>>>>>>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>>>>>>>>> simply and run too!
>>>>>>>>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's this simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csound
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>>>>>>>> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>>>>>>>> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>>>>>>>> need to be the authors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>>>>>>>>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>>>>>>>>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>>>>>>>> In terms of latency
>>>>>>>> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>>>>>>>> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>>>>>>>> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good luck!P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

How do I get Cecilia4Csound to start up?  On my mac?  On my pi4?

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

Can't wait to apt-get Cecilia4Csound on my pi4 AND... can't wait to download it and run it on my Mac and Windows10 laptops with my students!!

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cecilia4Csound starts up now.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick advice.
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 21:22 Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:
>>>
>>> sudo pip install -U pyo
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
>>>> 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>> To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
>>>> Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
>>>> [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>> from wx import *
>>>>>>> from pyo import *
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>>>>> from numpy import *
>>>>>>> from csnd6 import *
>>>>>>> import Cecilia4Csound
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
>>>>>> author, he may offer assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly recommend it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>>>>>>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi 4+
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>>>>>>>>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>>>>>>>>> simply and run too!
>>>>>>>>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's this simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csound
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>>>>>>>> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>>>>>>>> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>>>>>>>> need to be the authors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>>>>>>>>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>>>>>>>>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>>>>>>>> In terms of latency
>>>>>>>> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>>>>>>>> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>>>>>>>> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good luck!P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

Funny that you mention "locked up in the Janitor's closet". I do have to admit that this was in a box (un-opened) in the back of a cabinet in my studio for the past two years.

I took it out and set it up last week with (Csound and Audacity and Cabbage and Blue and Cecilia and Cubase) to take along with me to China in October. Many of the students there are using Windows.  Still testing.... and installing.

Dr. Richard Boulanger

Professor

Electronic Production and Design

Berklee College of Music

On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:05 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

- I do have a windows machine too - and will try on there as well.

Is this the single solitary Windows machine that you keep locked up in a cupboard at the back of the janitors closet in Berklee 😂 

 

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:08 PM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

How do I get Cecilia4Csound to start up?  On my mac?  On my pi4?

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

Can't wait to apt-get Cecilia4Csound on my pi4 AND... can't wait to download it and run it on my Mac and Windows10 laptops with my students!!

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cecilia4Csound starts up now.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick advice.
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 21:22 Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:
>>>
>>> sudo pip install -U pyo
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
>>>> 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>> To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
>>>> Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
>>>> [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>> from wx import *
>>>>>>> from pyo import *
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>>>>> from numpy import *
>>>>>>> from csnd6 import *
>>>>>>> import Cecilia4Csound
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
>>>>>> author, he may offer assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly recommend it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>>>>>>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi 4+
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>>>>>>>>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>>>>>>>>> simply and run too!
>>>>>>>>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's this simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csound
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>>>>>>>> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>>>>>>>> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>>>>>>>> need to be the authors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>>>>>>>>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>>>>>>>>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>>>>>>>> In terms of latency
>>>>>>>> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>>>>>>>> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>>>>>>>> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good luck!P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
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How do I get Cecilia4Csound to start up?  On my mac?  On my pi4?

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

Can't wait to apt-get Cecilia4Csound on my pi4 AND... can't wait to download it and run it on my Mac and Windows10 laptops with my students!!

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cecilia4Csound starts up now.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick advice.
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 21:22 Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:
>>>
>>> sudo pip install -U pyo
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
>>>> 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>> To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
>>>> Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
>>>> [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>> from wx import *
>>>>>>> from pyo import *
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>>>>> from numpy import *
>>>>>>> from csnd6 import *
>>>>>>> import Cecilia4Csound
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
>>>>>> author, he may offer assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly recommend it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>>>>>>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi 4+
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>>>>>>>>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>>>>>>>>> simply and run too!
>>>>>>>>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's this simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csound
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>>>>>>>> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>>>>>>>> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>>>>>>>> need to be the authors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>>>>>>>>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>>>>>>>>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>>>>>>>> In terms of latency
>>>>>>>> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>>>>>>>> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>>>>>>>> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good luck!P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>>         https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>>
>>>> Csound mailing list
>>>> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
>>>> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
>>>> Send bugs reports to
>>>>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>>>
>>> Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>
> Csound mailing list
> Csound@listserv.heanet.ie
> https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND
> Send bugs reports to
>        https://github.com/csound/csound/issues
> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here

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Hi Richard,

Here is how I just got Cecilia4Csound running on my MacOS 10.13 and Windows 10 computers. I'll try to find some time this semester to fix and update things (mostly porting to python 3 and wxPython phoenix) and build standalone versions for both OSes.

Olivier

On MacOS:

1) Install python 2.7 from python.org

2) Install csound 6.13

Copy files :

    /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/Python/Current/_csnd6.so

    /Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/Resources/Python/Current/csnd6.py

To:

    /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages

3) Install wxpython 3.0.2.0 from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vg9xmdhmhoarw5n/wxPython3.0-osx-cocoa-py2.7.pkg?dl=0

In a terminal:

4) sudo python -m pip install pyo wxPython numpy

5) git clone http://github.com/belangeo/cecilia4csound

6) cd cecilia4csound

7) python Cecilia4Csound.py

Windows 10:

1) Install python 2.7 64-bit from python.org

2) Install csound 6.13

3) Install wxpython 3.0.2.0 for python2.7 from sourceforge.net

In a Command Prompt:

4) py -2.7 -m pip install pyo numpy

5) git clone http://github.com/belangeo/cecilia4csound

6) cd cecilia4csound

7) py -2.7 Cecilia4Csound.py

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:09 PM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

How do I get Cecilia4Csound to start up?  On my mac?  On my pi4?

_____________________________________________
Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music

______________________________________________
OFFICE: 1126 Boylston St., Suite 201 (EPD), Suite 208 (Boulanger)

______________________________________________

President of Boulanger Labs - http://boulangerlabs.com
Author & Editor of The Csound Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/csound-book
Author & Editor of The Audio Programming Book - http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/audio-programming-book
______________________________________________
about: http://www.boulangerlabs.com/#about
about: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/
music: http://www.csounds.com/community/developers/dr-richard-boulanger/dr-richard-boulanger-music/

______________________________________________
email: rboulanger@berklee.edu
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.boulanger.58

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:

Can't wait to apt-get Cecilia4Csound on my pi4 AND... can't wait to download it and run it on my Mac and Windows10 laptops with my students!!

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Cecilia4Csound starts up now.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:09 PM Michael Gogins
> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks for the quick advice.
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 21:22 Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pyo 0.8.8 is too old, I just updated cecilia4Csound to work with pyo 1.0.0. You can install it with pip:
>>>
>>> sudo pip install -U pyo
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't run Cecilia4Csound on 18.04.3 LTS:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python Cecilia4Csound.py
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29,
>>>> in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line
>>>> 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "/home/mkg/cecilia4csound/Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>> To break it and show all pre-requisites have been installed:
>>>>
>>>> mkg@bodhimandala:~/cecilia4csound$ python
>>>> Python 2.7.15+ (default, Jul  9 2019, 16:51:35)
>>>> [GCC 7.4.0] on linux2
>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>>>>> from wx import *
>>>>>>> from pyo import *
>>>> pyo version 0.8.8 (uses single precision)
>>>>>>> from numpy import *
>>>>>>> from csnd6 import *
>>>>>>> import Cecilia4Csound
>>>> Preferences file not found
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>>>  File "Cecilia4Csound.py", line 24, in <module>
>>>>    from Resources import CsoundLib, CeciliaEditor
>>>>  File "Resources/CeciliaEditor.py", line 29, in <module>
>>>>    import PreferencePanel
>>>>  File "Resources/PreferencePanel.py", line 25, in <module>
>>>>    from Widgets import *
>>>>  File "Resources/Widgets.py", line 27, in <module>
>>>>    from pyo.lib._wxwidgets import ControlSlider
>>>> ImportError: No module named lib._wxwidgets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:37 PM Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I second the motion to use ctcsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Michael Gogins
>>>>> Irreducible Productions
>>>>> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
>>>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:09 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Python3, you could migrate to ctcsound. In fact you should migrate anyway if you're planning to keep Cecilia4Csound going, as we will eventually drop the SWIG bindings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure how this is packaged in the distros, but it's a single .py file. François Pinot is the
>>>>>> author, he may offer assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I highly recommend it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 Sep 2019, at 19:48, Olivier Bélanger <belangeo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just made a few changes to Cecilia4Csound and it now runs fine on my Debian computer with python 2.7 [1] and csound 6.12. Today I asked one of the Debian Multimedia Maintainers to add cecilia4Csound to debian packages and he kindly accepted. I'll take a few weeks to test a little bit deeper and give him the green light to build the package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know how it goes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Python 2.7 support will be dropped in January 2020. It's time to switch to python3 only. It would be nice to have a python3-csound package in debian. That would allow me to switch cecilia4Csound to python3/wxPython Phoenix instead of python2/wxPython Classic...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Richard <zappfinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't wait to get the new RPi 4+, but I understand it needs some decent
>>>>>>> (active) cooling, specially when pushing it's limits...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/09/2019 10:19, Peter P. wrote:
>>>>>>>> * Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@BERKLEE.EDU> [2019-09-11 20:39]:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't begin to tell you how excited I am about running Csound on the new
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi 4+
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> Setting up the board is super simple and super fast. (sudo apt-get install
>>>>>>>>> xxx - wow!!!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Audacity and Cecilia5 and PD and Paulstretch and Ardour all install
>>>>>>>>> simply and run too!
>>>>>>>>> - especially thrilled about Audacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's this simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csound
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install csoundqt
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install audacity
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install paulstretch
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install ardour
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cecilia (wish it was Cecilia 4!)
>>>>>>>> Yes, such is the magic of Debian packaging.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BUT...  what is missing is:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install cabbage
>>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install blue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND... a new Cecilia that has Csound inside again!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rory - can you put things together with Cabbage so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build from sources?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steven - can you put things together with Blue so that one can install it
>>>>>>>>> on the Pi4 without having to build it from sources?
>>>>>>>> Basically anyone can package software into a these packages, it doesn't
>>>>>>>> need to be the authors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier - any chance we will see a Cecilia6 that has Csound6 inside?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why am I so excited, well, I intend to have all 200 Electronic Production
>>>>>>>>> and Design Majors build little Csound Fuzz Boxes and FX Processors and
>>>>>>>>> Synths on the Pi - this semester and every semester AND when I am in China
>>>>>>>> In terms of latency
>>>>>>>> https://cosmoproject.github.io/bela/
>>>>>>>> https://homepage.univie.ac.at/alex.hofmann/general/2019/05/03/Bela.html
>>>>>>>> might outperform the rPi with USB cards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> good luck!P
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