> Qian wrote:
>
> >I understand that all of us in this mailing list are Csounders. But
> >Sometimes I could read something about other sound synthesis
> >languages, such as Cmix, Ceicilia etc. Is there any other sound
> >synthesis language? Could someone explain me the comparison of those
> >languages, since I know very little about other languages except
> >Csound. Furthermore, what is the best and the worst of Csound?
>

tolve wrote: (edited...)

> Cecilia is a kick-ass interface for csound.
>

agreed....

> of course you need not choose only one program!
>

absolutely!

> KYMA is expensive. Super Collider looks cool but better than cecilia/csound? costs a few hundred. also take a look at DSpyder (www.duy.es). Haven't seen it lately myself, but had been turned off by its limited control of envelopes, a common problem with most commercial software.
>

Kyma is "way cool", and very intuitive.I don't have supercollier..but Stephen Pope & users at UCSB C.R.E.A.T.E. swear by it.........

> lately, i have been coming under some peer pressure to switch to max. this is a commercial program known for its excellent utilization of midi, which i currently do not use. is it suddenly a match for synthesis in cecilia/csound?

MAX msp "MaxSignalProcessing"  is an extension to MAX that allows real-time signal generation and processing: again, with no powerMac (required), I do not know this one...but I have heard great things!http://www.cycling74.com/
By David Ziccarelli

also , much newer, and still in beta: "pd"...max-like, msp-like, free.
ftp://crca-ftp.ucsd.edu/pub/msp
By MillerSPuckett

Guys, I also have to mention  CLM - CommonLispMusic (synthesis)with CM CommonMusic ("algo-comp/parameter generation") controling it-
these are based in ANSI CommonLisp: they're available (in varying degrees of implementation)for
SGI,
NeXT,
Linux,
DOS,
MAC - the Mac is perhaps the most complete version, including very nice GUI, *but*
requires comercial Lisp, comercial C-compiler.
SGI is very complete, NeXT ok, Linux almost complete, DOS...well, uh...
but absolutely free!
I love CLM folk, it's amazingly complete, and embeds all these lovely synth algorithms in CommonLisp...one heckofa cool language, if, uh, a little *too* complete..;-)

Use 'em all!!!!
CharlieB
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