tolve wrote,

> csound itself requires the typing of text. this can provide extreme power
> but is least intuitive for control or auralization (another thread
-please
> suffer this word). but a supreme language should always allow this
option.
> and depending on your thoughts about artistic process, this may in fact
be
> your own idea of intuitive. not mine. and csound does midi.
> 

Very unintuitive for music yes but if you use a miidi convertor like
Midi2csound or Silence you can go back and forth between midi and score.  I
find midi tools much more intuitive for writing music like using Cakewalk
then go into Csound for rendering the midi file and score manipulation.  Of
course if my computor were fast enough I would probably use midi alone. 
There are many good scoring tools that produce midi files that are easy to
use like FracMuse2(fractals), Key Kit etc.  I am personally working on self
contained orcs with ftgen that directly respond to midi to eliminate the
translation process.
	Can someone explain what the control difference between midi and score is?
Someone objected that there is not a fine enough degree of control, but I
don't understand.
Ken Locarnini