| The URL is ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/newest/csound_src.zip
or at least I think so. I do not use teh Web as anyone who has
stumbled on my home page might have noticed.....
The pipe functionalty should work in real time as the process is at
the same level. I have not tried in real time though. You need to
set a PIPES option to the C pre-processor. I still cannot get the RT
playback to work reliably.
==John
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Subject: Re: Problem with midi2cs and other midi questions
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>
> I've been listening with interest to the threads regarding real-time
> control and the problem of intuition while working with CSound and
> we seem to be thinking along the same lines. I would like to see
> CSound become far more intuitive, hence Visual Orchestra, but I
> have experimented over the last few days with MIDI control of
> parameters using CSound command MIDICTRL. It seems to me that a
> virtual MIDI synth interface is what is needed, I've not seen
> Cakewalks studioware feature but I suppose it to be similar to
> Cubase's realtime MIDI controllers, OK but not ideally suited to
> CSound control.
>
> What about a MIDI controller designer (This could
> be incorporated into VisOrc or be run seperately) where the user can
> design and save sets of buttons and sliders with assignable MIDI
> functions? I'd make a start but CSound crashes with even the
> simplest MIDI control messages.
>
> Dave Perry
>
> Dave Perry
>
>
Dave or James,
This is very interesting. Yes Cakewalks studioware panels are very
powerfull. You can design from the ground up anything you want.
Theoretically we should be able to hook into Csound with a software
midi-port and then any parameter that can be assigned to midi would be able
to be manipulated in real-time. The panels also let you save their
parameters at any given moment in a song or be manipulated or recorded into
a track. I can envision midi controlled synths effect units etc.
Design choices include buttons, knobs, sliders, led, meters, clusters
(groups of controls that pop up) text display, images, etc. There are many
possibilities as to what and how info is sent including computational
formulas. Of course this is purely theoretical at the moment so I need to
start dong some testing as time permits. I will use Gabriels simple midi
tests to start.
BTW, have you created or are creating a menu for the midi opcodes that
Gabriel has incorporated for VisOrc. Would make creating instruments a
little easier!
By for now,
Ken
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>>>>> "Qian" == Qian Chen writes:
Qian> I met some problem when I used Winsound v3.476.
Qian> 1. Whenever I generate the sound file, I cannot delete it with
Qian> Csounder v3.3. After checking the atribution of the sound file, I
Qian> found that the atribution had always been set as READ-ONLY. All I
Qian> have to do is to use file folder to delete the file or use ATTRIB
Qian> command in DOS. Is it a bug?
Yes. It is an effect of Micro$oft who do not do teh same as everyone
else. I have a fix for it but it got lost in teh rush to get away
last week.
Qian> 2. Is krnd a keyword in Csound 3.47? Please see the program segment
Qian> below:
Qian> krnd krandh kamp*kfqc, 5000
Qian> If I change the variable krnd into other word, nothing happens.
Qian> Otherwise, I will get errors when compiling it using Winsound v3.476.
krnd is an opcode, also known as rnd.
Qian> Since I have not downloaded Csound v3.476 DOS version, I do not know
Qian> if it is the same.
It has your second problem but not your first. It does have other
errors as I have not rebuilt it for another bug.
Qian> Are those problems bugs?
Yes...ish
==John ff
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>>>>> "Qian" == Qian Chen writes:
Qian> I met some problem when I used Winsound v3.476.
Qian> 1. Whenever I generate the sound file, I cannot delete it with
Qian> Csounder v3.3. After checking the atribution of the sound file, I
Qian> found that the atribution had always been set as READ-ONLY. All I
Qian> have to do is to use file folder to delete the file or use ATTRIB
Qian> command in DOS. Is it a bug?
Yes. It is an effect of Micro$oft who do not do teh same as everyone
else. I have a fix for it but it got lost in teh rush to get away
last week.
Qian> 2. Is krnd a keyword in Csound 3.47? Please see the program segment
Qian> below:
Qian> krnd krandh kamp*kfqc, 5000
Qian> If I change the variable krnd into other word, nothing happens.
Qian> Otherwise, I will get errors when compiling it using Winsound v3.476.
krnd is an opcode, also known as rnd.
Qian> Since I have not downloaded Csound v3.476 DOS version, I do not know
Qian> if it is the same.
It has your second problem but not your first. It does have other
errors as I have not rebuilt it for another bug.
Qian> Are those problems bugs?
Yes...ish
==John ff
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Dave Perry wrote:
> What about a MIDI controller designer (This could
> be incorporated into VisOrc or be run seperately) where the user can
> design and save sets of buttons and sliders with assignable MIDI
> functions?
It's under developement! It will give the user a set of 64 (!) sliders
which transmit seven bit MIDI control data and 16 sliders with 14 bit
data (obtained with the combination of two different controls to use
with "midic14", "ctrl14" and future "slider14" family of opcodes)
Happy csounding!
Gabriel Maldonado
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hi!
it's great if the subject title of the csound mailing list could have
a [csound] in is body..
for filtering...
thanks
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renan wrote:
>
> hi!
>
> it's great if the subject title of the csound mailing list could have
> a [csound] in is body..
>
> for filtering...
Isn't the fact that it comes from the csound list sufficient for filtering?
Are you trying to filter out everything from this list? Why subscribe then?
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Mike Berry writes:
| renan wrote:
| >
| > hi!
| >
| > it's great if the subject title of the csound mailing list could have
| > a [csound] in is body..
| >
| > for filtering...
|
| Isn't the fact that it comes from the csound list sufficient for filtering?
| Are you trying to filter out everything from this list? Why subscribe then?
Some of us filter mailing lists into separate spool files. In any
case, you can set your filter to look for
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On 12 Mar 98 at 15:11, Mike Berry wrote:
> renan wrote:
> >
> > hi!
> >
> > it's great if the subject title of the csound mailing list could
> > have a [csound] in is body..
> >
> > for filtering...
>
> Isn't the fact that it comes from the csound list sufficient for
> filtering?
> Are you trying to filter out everything from this list? Why
> subscribe then? -- Mike Berry mikeb@nmol.com
Maybe he just wants to organize the messages from different lists in
different folders, automatically.
Guto.
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I have prepared a complete index of all possible topics on the Csound list.
Would all of you please include exactly the relevant topics from my list on
the subject line of your emails, so that my automated system can read and
respond without my ever having to actually read communications from other
human beings.
If that proves too inconvenient, just send your messages as you always
have. Thank you.
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From: David Madole
Subject: Re: title could be like that : [csound]
To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:07:15 -0800 (PST)
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In-Reply-To: from "Erik Spjut" at Mar 12, 98 02:53:56 pm
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>
> I have prepared a complete index of all possible topics on the Csound list.
> Would all of you please include exactly the relevant topics from my list on
> the subject line of your emails, so that my automated system can read and
> respond without my ever having to actually read communications from other
> human beings.
>
> If that proves too inconvenient, just send your messages as you always
> have. Thank you.
These comments are not really fair. Some people's mailers show the
mail as being from the "from" mail header some from the "from:" mail
header and some from the "sender:" mail header, and often these peoples
have no control over which header is used. If your mail reader lists
by "sender:", then all mail from the csound list will seem to be fron
"owner-outgoing...", if it lists by "from:" (as does mine), it will
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with all the other mail, and naive mail users may not be able to
determine whence it came.
Dave
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If some mailer can't filter on different fields, or if procmail isn't an
options, then shouldn't the csound list be set up to modify the subject
string as needed?
Larry
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I, for one, agree with the [csound] proposal. I belong to five or six different
lists and only one (the sursound list)uses this sensible policy. All subject
headings start with [sursound]. All browsers that I am aware of support sorting
mail by subject. The payoff comes every couple of weeks when my (netscape)
mailbox has grown to more than 1000 messages and a clean-up is in order. The 100
or so messages from the surround-list can be classified with a single click and
a drag/drop into a folder. For all the other lists, one has to resort to a
combination of "by sender" & "by subject" to get the right stuff at the right
place.
The [csound] title header is a good idea. It only requires eight additional
characters and is of tremendous help for filing. The inconvenience: for it to
work everybody has to do it. Ha! fat chance of that happening with a bunch of
whinny sorry-assed curmmudgeons the likes of you all here.
...grumph..
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From: Roger Klaveness
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Since my mailer can't filter on 'sender' I check on 'to' and 'CC' fields
instead. Seems to work fine with me.
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Vincent Puig wrote
>From Vincent.Puig@ircam.fr Fri Mar 13 08:45:42 1998
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You are right we are currently rebuilding all our server in order to make
it clearer.
In order to get most Ircam software you must subscribe to Forum Ircam
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Jean Piche wrote:
>
> I, for one, agree with the [csound] proposal. I belong to five or six different
> lists and only one (the sursound list)uses this sensible policy. All subject
> headings start with [sursound].
I never have profitted from a similar situation
> The inconvenience: for it to work everybody has to do it.
So they really prepend "[sursound]" in the subjects to this mail
list you mentioned? Now this is really inconvenient. As Larry pointed
out, this should be the job of the remailer James (list-keeper) is
operating.
Can someone translate this?:
> Ha! fat chance of that happening with a bunch of
> whinny sorry-assed curmmudgeons the likes of you all here.
Thanks!
kd
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> Can someone translate this?
This is what altavista's translation came up with:
Ha! chance en graisse de cela se produisant avec un groupe de
curmmudgeons d=E9sol=E9s-assed whinny tous les go=FBts de vous ici.
:)
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From: Olivier Pasquet
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>>> Can someone translate this?
This is what altavista=27s translation came up with:
Ha=21 chance en graisse de cela se produisant avec un groupe de
curmmudgeons d=E9sol=E9s-assed whinny tous les go=FBts de vous =
ici.
<<< Ho=21 Chance in fat of this that are reproducing with a group of=20
sorry-assed whinny curmmudgeons all the tastes of you here.
This is what this means. If you understand anything, well done... It is
probably again a stupid code. Curmmudgeons sound like fishes... After the
birds with CSound, maybe someone is trying to reproduce fishes like =
sounds; I
am interested althought it is easier with your lips and not very loud...
Sorry not to help you more.
Bye Bye.
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