| could anyone stop all this comercial publicity on this list????
thanks a lot
Mikhail
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Mikhail Malt wrote:
> could anyone stop all this comercial publicity on this list????
>
> thanks a lot
>
> Mikhail
i agree. i didnt join this list to be spammed.
pete
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From: Mike Berry
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I'm not sure what you mean when you say that there are not any
pitch/frequency shifting devices in csound. The most basic is simple
sample rate shifting, via tablei, loscil, or diskin. You mentioned pvoc.
The various granular operators (grain, granule) can do granular pitch
shifting.
Mike Berry
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look at SNDWARP too in the 3.46 documentation from Montreal.
On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Mike Berry wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean when you say that there are not any
> pitch/frequency shifting devices in csound. The most basic is simple
> sample rate shifting, via tablei, loscil, or diskin. You mentioned pvoc.
> The various granular operators (grain, granule) can do granular pitch
> shifting.
>
> Mike Berry
> mikeb@mills.edu
>
>
>
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Question of the day:
"Why are always people asking about stopping to spam mailing list ?"
By essence, the one doing the job does knows he's bothering (most of)
you and probably don't even read it. The only one you bother by
complaining is the list maintainer which - obviously - is the last
person you want to annoy.
The best reaction, IMHO, is to destroy the mail as soon as possible and
forget about it (unless you want to directly respond to the sender and
send him a thousand of mails automatically generated ;-).
Cheers,
Marc.
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For what it's worth, I located the ISP of one of the major spammers on this list, "SexSwap".
They are http://www.completeweb.net/.
I sent a rather nasty email to their Webmaster, djordan@completeweb.net. His response was
sympathetic, but he claimed there was nothing he could do to stop the spam.
I replied that his company certainly had a choice to refuse service to customers who practice
spamming. I think it might indeed be worth considering a mass "email attack" on such sites if the
spam persists.
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Marc Resibois wrote:
>
> Question of the day:
>
> "Why are always people asking about stopping to spam mailing list ?"
>
> By essence, the one doing the job does knows he's bothering (most of)
> you and probably don't even read it. The only one you bother by
> complaining is the list maintainer which - obviously - is the last
> person you want to annoy.
Indeed, Marc! James is trying his darnest to solve this problem. Come on
folks, James is a volunteer. Everybody is annoyed by spam but
complaining to him is not the answer. I think something should be done
about it also but dont shoot the wrong person.
If you get spam, complain to the ISP of the sender. Most decent ISPs
will remove spammers, if they can find them. The idea is to complain to
providers if when they can be traced through message headers. Complain
vigorously is my policy.
But it happens that the spam we've been getting on the list is extremely
vicous and intractable. I believe it is called bounce-mail spam where
the originator cannot be traced by sysadmins. You will note from full
message headers that the spam bounces through a number of machines
around the world (Sweden, Greece, Italy and the US of course...) with
phony mail addresses, aliases and gateways... impossible to know where
it comes from.
Eventually, this spamming problem is going to get *so* severe (8 out of
17 mails in my box this morning were spam) that the whole internet
community will rebel and demand tighter regulations... and then it
becomes a freedom of speech issue. Perhaps Europeans are not completely
aware that in the US (sorry fellow Americans....) the freedom of speech
issue is used by the ultra-right more often than the left... but that's
another story...
--
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Jean Piche
Universite de Montreal
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Hello--
There hasn't been a refresh on the archive at
http://www.maths.ex.ac.uk/~james/csound_list/
since Jul 17.
I'm assuming that there's been activity on the list, but that the
archive is down. Will it be updated anytime soon?
Sorry if this is already a known problem.
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>I however wanted to create "from scratch" those things (i.e.
>pitch and freq shift algs...)
Here is a crude harmonizer made way back when I was using Csound Ver. 1.0
to "tune" sampled soundfiles. It is tedious to work with and you
have to trim out the silences the delay line puts in, but it was all
I had at the time and it got the job done.
(Supply your own soundfiles!)
-Tom
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; hrmnzr.orc
sr = 48000
kr = 24000
ksmps = 2
nchnls = 1
instr 1 ;sample pitch shifter
idur = p3
ifilno = p4
a1 soundin ifilno
k2 line p5,p3,p6
k3 linen p7,0,p3,.02
a2 delayr 1
a3 deltapi k2
delayw a1
out a3*k3
endin
instr 2 ;sine ref freq
i1 = cpspch(p5)
i2 = ampdb(p4)
k1 linen i2,.04,p3,.02
a1 oscil k1,i1,1
out a1
endin
instr 3 ;playback
idur = p3
ifilno = p4
a1 soundin ifilno
k3 linen p5,0,p3,.02
out a1*k3
endin
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; hrmnzr.sco
f1 0 1024 10 1
;tuning: t1 > t2 sharps pitch
;tuning: t1 < t2 flats pitch
sf# t1 t1 amp
i1 0 11.78 17 .9 .2 1
i2 0 4 72 7.02 ;reference tone
e
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From: Burton Alexandre
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Hello all...
A little update for Cecilia on the Mac:
** Version 1.75b1 (23/07/97) for PowerMac
This is a maintenance release, fixing little things that are being
reported. Most importantly:
- Cecilia properly handles the absence of a user name in the
"sharing setup" control panel
- the Console is now hidden, to reduce cluttering and confusion
(you don't need it anyway)
- fixed a small bug which made some file paths wrong
- fixed another bug which caused, under some circonstances,
numbers like 10.344556.6 to be generated.
- fixed the .orc/.sco importation which did not work at all...
It is not necessary to download the whole package again, only the libs
(93k). Trash your current "lib" folder and replace with:
ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia_lib1.75b1.sit.bin
The complete package has been updated to:
ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia1.75b1.sit.bin
Alexandre Burton, 23/07/97
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This may be of some help in making the mailing list more suitably
vegetarian-
http://www.iemmc.org/remove.htm
IEMMC Global Remove List Request Form -
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Could somebody, please acknowledge this works ?
Or is it another trap to be spammed more ?
thank you.
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Maciej Bartkowiak mbartkow@et.put.poznan.pl
Institute of Electronics & Telecommunications
Poznan University of Technology, POLAND
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:45:34 +0000
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From: Per Villez
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If indeed nothing can be done to stop persistent nuisance like this I would
certainly opt for flaming the nuisance, but how do you know that it won't
invite the same reaction back. All this just goes to highlight how insecure
privacy is on the net and makes subcribing to this list completely
redundant, anybody can pop in and leave their rubbish behind.
Per Byrne Villez
>spamming. I think it might indeed be worth considering a mass "email attack"
>on such sites if the
>spam persists.
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From: Chris Cato
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To: Jean Piche
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Subject: Re: Stop it please
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On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Jean Piche wrote:
> Eventually, this spamming problem is going to get *so* severe (8 out of
> 17 mails in my box this morning were spam) that the whole internet
> community will rebel and demand tighter regulations... and then it
> becomes a freedom of speech issue. Perhaps Europeans are not completely
> aware that in the US (sorry fellow Americans....) the freedom of speech
> issue is used by the ultra-right more often than the left... but that's
> another story...
It is definately a global internet problem that needs to be dealt with. I
understand that the newest version of Sendmail (which we are running here)
does a DNS check against incoming messages - if the sender doesn't resolve
it doesn't get delivered to anyone on campus. Supposedly it also is
designed to prevent spammers from piggy-backing email through our mail
servers - if it isn't being sent to someone on here it is automatically
rejected. I'm not sure about the specifics but since it was implemented
last month it does seem to have cut back on spam mail. Unfortunately, it
can't filter out spam coming from a valid system (i.e. hermes.ex.ac.uk).
Just a little bit of info from my part of the world...
Chris Cato
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