| Hi,
I've been using Csound on NT intermittently for about 6 months, and it's
running smooth.
Ben
At 08:50 AM 3/4/99 -0600, David Boothe wrote:
>I'm thinking of moving to a Windows NT machine. Does anyone use Csound under
>NT and does it work OK?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-David.
>
>
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Oh, yes!=20
I did so, it's OK, of course.
Thank you!
Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru
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> =CE=F2: Roger Klaveness
> =CA=EE=EC=F3: Sergey Batov
> =CA=EE=EF=E8=FF: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
> =D2=E5=EC=E0: Re: soundfiles for ACCCI
> =C4=E0=F2=E0: 10 =EC=E0=F0=F2=E0 1999 =E3. 15:24
>=20
> How about the output from 10_02_1 example ?
>=20
> Roger K
>=20
> Sergey Batov wrote:
> >=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I'm trying to test examples for Karplus/Strong Algorithm from ACCCI.
> > There is a string
> > f77 0 1024 1 "Sflib/10_02_1.aiff" .2 0 0
> >=20
> > in example 15_01_1.SCO
> >=20
> > Where can I find the "10_02_1.aiff"?
> > Seems there are only "santur1.wav", speech1.wav"
> > and "snap1.wav" on the ACCCI site.
> >=20
> > Thank you,
> > Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru
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I played around with XCSound for a while and found it worked quite well on my P
200. There are very impressive demos mixing synthesis, digital audio playback,
and midi control in real-time. You can use it as a Windows sound card as well
(audio out and wavetable midi). The high degree of compatibility with existing
sco and orc files is another big plus.
I also had problems with clicks and pops, but didn't spend the time to track
down. I haven't used XCSound for a while now, as I'm kind of been in batch
processing mode lately.
Mike
Sukandar Kartadinata wrote:
> Hi everbody, I'm new to this list. My interest in Csound got revived after
> I found out about that PCI card by Analog Devices which is supposed to run
> an extended version of Csound. Has anyone experience/opinions to share ? In
> particular I'm curious if it is possible to transfer the resulting DSP-code
> to a standalone DSP board (like the EZ-KIT) ? Also, how is realtime
> performance on other platforms ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sukandar
>
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After gotten the advices I tried to use the wg-opcodes again and can not figure
out, how to use them:
Your first examble works fine.
a1 wgflute 30000, 400, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, 50
But this works not as expected (csound version 3.52 at Linux 2.0.35):
a1 wgflute kamp, 400, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1
The first note of a score will not be played, so if you try only one note you
get nothing.
Your second example does not work either (on my maschine):
a1 wgflute 30000, kfq, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, 50
csound needs allmost all of my cpu power and seems to do nothing for a long
time (!?)
Futhermore iminfreq seems to have an influence on the pitch:
a1 wgflute 30000, 400, 0.2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, p4
with:
f1 0 8192 10 1
i1 0 2 200
i1 + 2 300
i1 + 2 399
e
same with kjet:
a1 wgflute 30000, 400, p4, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, 50
f1 0 8192 10 1
i1 0 2 .1
i1 + 2 .2
i1 + 2 .3
e
(And I can't notice the difference in the noise-amount)
But perhaps the failure is quite another, in this example nothing changes but
every note is different (!)
a1 wgflute 30000, 400, .1, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, 50
f1 0 8192 10 1
i1 0 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
e
(This effect will be gone, if an other kjet is used, say 0.2)
A similar effect can be tried with:
a1 wgclar 30000, 400, .2, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 0, 0, 1, 50
f1 0 8192 10 1
i1 0 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
i1 + 2
e
Here kstiff seems to be changed without really be changed but happily no side
effect in pitch happens.
Sorry, but do I really missuse these opcodes?
hoping for some fixes
Torsten
>a1 wgflute 31129.60, 440, 0.32, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 5.925, 0.05, 1
>a1 wgflute 31129.60, kfq, 0.32, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 5.925, 0.05, 1, 400
>
>are both OK. However if one tries
>
>a1 wgflute 31129.60, kfq, 0.32, 0.1, 0.1, 0.15, 5.925, 0.05, 1
>
>at init time the value of kfq is not available -- it really is not
>there until the first cycle -- so a perf error is given saying no
>lowest frequency.
>
>What to do about it? I can think of 3 possible things.
>1) Accept the status quo as it is what is really happening
>2) Delay the creation of the structures to the first cycle, and accept
>the performance hit of checking every cycle
>3) Assume that no one uses frequencies before 50Hz without thinking,
>so default to 50Hz if there is no other way to determine at init time.
>
>Any preferences? 1 and 3 are easy to code. 2 will take a little
>longer.
>
>==John ffitch
>
>PS the mandol opcode seems to have stopped functioning. No idea what
>I changed to break it, and so far no inspiration has arrive,
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---- U wrote:----
Generally speaking one can say:
- computers really like things that are a power of 2
- people that programs to much assembly or makes digital electronics
starts dreaming binary and hexadecimal numbers
-------
2 good generalizations ;^), if you look hard enough you could find sum comp.
programs which use symbols ( such as PI) for infinit percision. But for
most applications ( such as Csound compilers ) one can get away with rounding,
approximating, or interpelation.
( your second comment brings me back to a nightmare I had when I was taking
3rd semester of calculas where limit's symbols were tormenting me b4 a test ;)
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Thats why engineers invented abacuses, slide rulers, then calculators ;)
> Someone told me once that mathematicians are not very good at arithmetic
^^^^^^^^^^^^
BTW: I once had a teacher ( math Ph.D ) who wrote the algorithmss for an HP
calculator who was notorious for marking math problems wrong becuase of students
use of non-HP calculators had truncated output different than his HP calculator ;)
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Were you a student of teh great Kahane? I remember him terrifying speakers
at conferences! In 1976 I had just got my first calculator, an HP25
and he saw it, took it and started showing me teh errors in teh arithmetic!
I never could so arithmetic though. We had a test at age 11 where I got 98%
because I coudl not do the simple subtraction -- algebra was trivial of
course.
==John ff
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Although I don't call myself a mathematician, I am still lousy at
Arithmetic. I can deal with fairly high level algorithms and solid geometry
as long as the computer does the actual adding together of beans.
I even have to have Quicken do my check book because I will forget to carry
the three and run myself out of money! I wonder if we can identify a trend
here...
> Were you a student of teh great Kahane? I remember him
> terrifying speakers
> at conferences! In 1976 I had just got my first calculator, an HP25
> and he saw it, took it and started showing me teh errors in teh
> arithmetic!
>
> I never could so arithmetic though. We had a test at age 11
> where I got 98%
> because I coudl not do the simple subtraction -- algebra was trivial of
> course.
>
> ==John ff
>
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Kahane? Where did he teach @? I started @ SJSU, here in the Sillycone Valley ( S
( San Jose,CA ) in Fall '89 and recieved my BSCS diploma in the Spring of '95.
Gosh, I can't recall the name of the teacher nor which Scientific HP calculator
he helped program. The back of my Calculas book too had sections of how
to check for calculator errors
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Kahane? Where did he teach @? I started @ SJSU, here in the Sillycone Valley ( S
( San Jose,CA ) in Fall '89 and recieved my BSCS diploma in the Spring of '95.
Gosh, I can't recall the name of the teacher nor which Scientific HP calculator
he helped program. The back of my Calculas book too had sections of how
to check for calculator errors
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From: "Vercoe, Scotty"
To: Jens-Reimer@t-online.de
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Subject: RE: ADI Extended Csound
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:56:00 -0500
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The Analog Devices XTCsound SDK consists of:
- multi-channel PCI card (6-out, 4-in; analog on 1/8" mini-phono, digital on
spdif)
- Windows 95 software (sorry, no 98 or NT yet!)
- drivers, manuals, examples
The windows drivers support MIDI/wav playback from other applications. It does
not support multi-channel audio files or audio recording from other
applications.
The price is US$1000. To order, send a note requesting information to:
sue.khudairi@analog.com
You will be asked to sign a license agreement.
Thanks,
Scotty Vercoe
XTCsound Applications Consultant
Analog Devices Software & Systems Technology Division
Tel: (781) 461-3569 FAX: (781) 461-4291
Support: Csound.support@analog.com
Website: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/thinktank/2138/
> ----------
> From: Jens-Reimer@t-online.de[SMTP:Jens-Reimer@t-online.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 1:13 PM
> To: Vercoe, Scotty
> Cc: sk@zkm.de; CSOUND
> Subject: Re: ADI Extended Csound
>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:35:04 -0500 , you wrote:
>
> >Hi Sukandar,
> >A standalone implementation of XTCsound would need more memory than is on the
> >EZ-kit. I'll refrain from giving my biased opinion on your other questions.
> >cheers
> >Scotty Vercoe
> >XTCsound Applications Consultant
> >Analog Devices Software & Systems Technology Division
> >Tel: (781) 461-3569 FAX: (781) 461-4291
> >Support: Csound.support@analog.com
> >Website: http://www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/thinktank/2138/
>
> do you know how and where to buy this card?
> what hard/software do i need to make it fully functional?
> price?
>
> Und Tschuss
> Jens Reimer
>
> Email:
> jens.reimer@t-online.de
>
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From: Thomas Huber
Subject: midi format 1 ?
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Hello Csounders,
I now have two computers allowing me to run a sequencer on one and
csound on the other. Everything works fine when using realtime MIDI
input. However, when I then save the result to a MIDI file (in the
seuqencer) and try to render it offline, csound tells me that it
does not support format 1 MIDIfiles.
Will this change in the future ? What can I do (are there conversion
utilities for unix/linux around) ?
I need MIDI file input to allow full 44kHz stereo with kr=sr for the
end product. While recording and experimenting with the sequencer,
csound is set to 22kHz mono )or even less) and kr=sr/10 to allow good realtime
performance (Pentium II 350)
Thomas
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From: David Boothe
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Dear Csounders-
At the request of Dr. Richard Boulanger, I am preparing a new edition of the
manual. With extensive help from Dr. Boulanger and John ffitch, the manual
is being revised and brought into conformance with the new Csound book Dr.
Boulanger is editing for MIT Press. We expect the new edition to be much a
more accurate and complete reference for public Csound.
I expect to release the new Print Edition (in Adobe Acrobat or .pdf format)
and ASCII Text Edition early next week. Within a few weeks, there will be a
new HTML Edition, based on the same sources. As in the past, I will do my
best to keep all these manuals current.
We hope that these manuals will be of greater help to you in you Csound
adventures.
-David.
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Great! Where should we look for them? Will they be on the
bath and montreal sites?
Wayne Freno
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, David Boothe wrote:
> Dear Csounders-
>
> At the request of Dr. Richard Boulanger, I am preparing a new edition of the
> manual. With extensive help from Dr. Boulanger and John ffitch, the manual
> is being revised and brought into conformance with the new Csound book Dr.
> Boulanger is editing for MIT Press. We expect the new edition to be much a
> more accurate and complete reference for public Csound.
>
> I expect to release the new Print Edition (in Adobe Acrobat or .pdf format)
> and ASCII Text Edition early next week. Within a few weeks, there will be a
> new HTML Edition, based on the same sources. As in the past, I will do my
> best to keep all these manuals current.
>
> We hope that these manuals will be of greater help to you in you Csound
> adventures.
>
>
> -David.
>
>
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Any CMask users out there? I've been using cmask for a few months now.
It's just way too much fun!
However, I'm getting tired of editing those mask parameter lists by
hand. Does anyone know of a graphical editor specifically for tendency
masks? Or even a generic graphical line segment editor I might be able
to modify? I hate to take time away from composing to write one, but I'm
not being very productive with this hand editing...
BTW, the link to CMask on the CSound Front Page
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Hi all:
Just found this today:
http://www.iua.upf.es/dafx98/papers/
This page features Postscript versions of the papers presented at the
DAFX 98 conference. Lots of cool stuff, if you are a fledgling digital
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Subject: Silence 4.1
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This is to announce the release of Silence 4.1. Silence is my Java =
system for algorithmic composition and synthesis, using Music Modeling =
Language for generating scores, and JCsound for synthesizing them. =
Changes in this release include a simplified user interface, some bug =
fixes, and a major change in the layout of Music Modeling Language to =
make it well-formed XML throughout.I also have added some sample =
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at the 1998 International Computer Music Conference, for JCsound..
Silence is available at http://www.pipeline.com/~gogins. Please email =
bug reports or questions to me at gogins@nyc.pipeline.com. Silence is =
licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License and is =
available without charge, though donations are welcome.
At this point, I regard the basic class design, language, and interfaces =
of Silence to be reasonably stable. In particular, I foresee no =
additional changes to the INode interface or the MML language, so I =
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From: Hans Mikelson
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Hi,
After battling with chronic laryngitis for the past year I have gotten to
know some speech therapists. I have discussed with them some of the ways in
which they analyze voices. Some of the parameters they like to track are:
Pitch, jitter, shimmer, and for normal speaking: pitch average and
variation. I have been working on implementing some of the analysis
routines in Csound. If someone cares to give me a reference for some
algorithms for this type of processing I would appreciate it.
I notice that Csound's LPC analysis has a pitch tracker which may be
helpful.
As I was experimenting I created a normal speech to whisper converter:
sr=44100
kr=22050
ksmps=2
nchnls=2
; LPC Resynthesis Whisper
instr 12
idur = p3
ktimpnt linseg 0, idur, idur
krmsr, krmso, kerr, kcps lpread ktimpnt, "trantr.lpc"
anz1 rand krmso
anz butterhp anz1, 1000
asig1 = anz*(kerr-.0002)*2
aout lpreson asig1
outs aout*10, aout*10
endin
; Sta Dur
i12 0 8.69
The LPC was run with default options to create the file trantr.lpc from a
sample of spoken text.
Conversion of normal speech to resynthesized normal speech seems to be a bit
more difficult. The simulations of glottal pulses I've tried result in an
artificial and grainy tone to the voice.
I tried using buzz without much luck. I've also tried using oscil with a
simulated glottal pulse as follows:
f5 0 8192 8 0 1024 1 256 .7 256 .9 64 -.8 256 -.65 256 -.75 256 -.5 192 0
1024 0 4608 0
which did not sound too great either. I am beginning to wonder if it is
perhaps the filter interpolation which introduces the gritty sound quality.
Does anyone know of an example of using LPC to resynthesize a normal voice
or does anyone know of a good waveform for simulating a glottal pulse?
There was some research at UCSF on training children with language learning
disabilities using modified speech which resulted in a Nature article a
couple of years ago. The speech was time stretched and certain consonants
like "b" and "d" were amplified. This later evolved into a program called
"Fast Forward." I wrote an orc/sco a while ago that attempts to implement
this type of modified speech using pvoc. If anyone is interested in this it
is in my zip file (mikelson.zip at bath) entitled "dog.orc". I am not sure
how close this orc comes to reproducing the modified speech used at UCSF and
FastForward. (Note Fast Forward is making some pretty sensational claims
which makes me a bit suspicious of this program.)
Bye,
Hans Mikelson
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