> >>>>From: davids@pavell.com (David Schuyeteneer)
> >>>Music is the appreciation of structures in aesthetic psychofictional
> >>space.
> >
> >I like this one ... though I'm not entirely sure I'm using the same
> >definition of psychofictional as you are. Mine has something to do with 
> the
> >internal metaphorizations that form psycic consciousness.
> >
> >>From: "Paul Winkler" 
> >>Hmmm... so is a psychedelic experience... or schizophrenia (in a good
> >>mood)... (mind you I have not experienced either of these so I could 
> be
> >>mistaken).

> Whoops. I realize I made an error by not recognizing the importance of 
> the word "aesthetic" in the original statement.
 
> I've been trying my own hand (?) at some sort of definition today and 
> haven't got any further than "Music is a cognitive framework for 
> interpreting experienced or imagined sound." Which is not at all 
> satisfactory. It doesn't really distinguish music from any other sound 
> at all.
> 
> For that matter, your definitions above definitely include speech.

My definition includes every structure of sound wich can fit on a sound
mediacarrier in order
to be listened to. As soon as a sound is captured on a carrier (CD, tape,
video, etc...) for aesthetic purposes, it can be considered as "music".
That's what my definition is about. 
Go to the beach, most people hardly notice consciously the aesthetic
qualities of waves crashing
sound.....Record it, release it on CD and immediatly a lot of new-age
people will buy it because
of its......yes indeed..aesthetic beauty. You see what I mean ??
Spoken word albums like William S. Burroughs' "Breaking through the grey
room" are 
just dry speech, but :   it is captured on a CD and that's what puts it in
a whole different context :
this way every, really EVERY sound, can be captured and will still feel
like "music" or at least something that is meant to be received by people
for aesthetic rather than scientific purposes.

We live in the realm of "man-made". Actions have to be stored in order to
grab attention.




> >All "experiences" are chemically induced, actually. What did you eat 



All Experiences are chemically induced ??????   No...Experiences are
non-physical interpretations
wich CAUSE chemical substances to be formed in the brains and glands in
order to physically
feel them....They aren't the RESULT of chemical reactions....The chemicals
are rather needed to
translate a non-physical impression into the physical plane (the senses and
the body).




David, a.k.a: [ The lone inhabitant in the valley of sonic sanctuaries]