Can anybody tell me how to generate white noise?  If there are any orc.
files I could download it would be much appreciated as my programming
skills are very limited. 

Thank you very much

Philippe Lacherez

>Can anybody tell me how to generate white noise?  If there are any orc.
>files I could download it would be much appreciated as my programming
>skills are very limited.
>
>Thank you very much
>
>Philippe Lacherez



Something like this?


sr = 44100
kr = 4410
ksmps = 10


instr 1
	anoise	rand 10000

		out anoise
endin



--ll

I am hoping for some reality checking from the list.

	I am neither a musician, nor a expert programmer, but I bang away at both
when I have time. I am still trying to learn C++ now 4 years after starting,
and am only a moderate guitar and piano player. I have no knowledge of DSP
or synthesizer technology. I'm probably smart enough to learn CSound, but
find my life already a little cluttered. I wanted to use CSound to make
sound effects for my POV-Ray animations and to write little scores for
backgrounds, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere.

	I recently asked a question about MIDI and have since gotten CakeWalk Pro
and the MIDI adapter I needed. My sound card seems to have 128 sounds
available to it and for most uses I might have, this is enough. Since last
week I used CW to finish a score I had gotten nowhere on with CSound over
the last 4 months.

	So my question would be, should I give up on CSound and just use CakeWalk?
Is it an economical use of my brain space to try to hammer this stuff into
my head? Would I need to jump back and study a couple years of sound
analysis stuff before I could expect to make my own groovy sounds? Does one
need significant mathematical skills (above College Algebra) to really make
CSound wail? Am I wimping out if I quit?

	Does anyone take MIDI seriously? I never did. But it seems to be getting
the job done. Maybe I should find a MIDI list...

	Any opinions, especially long rambling ones full of personal experiences,
welcome.

Bill,
	I use Csound *and* MIDI, often in combination. I'm not familiar
with Cakewalk Pro, but I believe it has the capability to combine MIDI
tracks with digital audio. This being so, you could do most of your
scoring with MIDI, and add Csound "sound effects" little by little as you
learn more about Csound.
	As far as the math required to use Csound - that depends. If you
want to grapple with the hairier DSP aspects of Csound, certainly a
serious engineering math background is necessary. But you can still do a
lot with Csound using basic algebra. Most of the math I use wrt Csound is
just +, -, *, /.
	So I'd encourage you to not give up on Csound. There is so much
you can do with it that even a big-buck MIDI setup can't even touch. Try
working through the tutorials and the Amsterdam catalogue. Experiment with
modifying the examples. Good luck!

Cheers,
Mark Vigorito
mtv@u.arizona.edu

	Thanks for all the replies.

	I think my real problem is time. I only have about an hour a day to
study -anything- and so I don't get to CSound very often. Usually only when
I get overloaded with C++. Probably not the best of study techniques...

	Anyway, I will look into making sounds for real-time use, but I think I
will take a break from it for a while first. I have a long weekend coming so
maybe I will give it one last effort and then take a break if I don't make a
breakthrough.

	Thanks again.