Keith wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry, but it seems I'm a bit (late) and also confused about  Mac versions.
> I've just downloaded Cecilia 2.0 for MacOS and it suggests using csound 3.47.
> Does PPC 3.47 exist?If so where is it?
> I've been happy using PPC 0.3.1b(Ingalls\Madole\Berry)...
> Keith

The correct version comes in the cecilia package. Make sure you remove all other
versions from your system...

the 3.47PPC is also available at 

ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia/csound_binairies/
ftp://mills.edu/pub/ccm/csound.ppc/

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jean piche wrote:

>The correct version comes in the cecilia package. Make sure you remove
all other

>versions from your system...

>

>the 3.47PPC is also available at 

>

>ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia/csound_binairies/

>ftp://mills.edu/pub/ccm/csound.ppc/


someone please dry me off if i'm all wet on this one:


csound for mac consists of two program files: csound application, the
newest of which is version 0.3.1b0 located at mills
ftp://mills.edu/pub/ccm/csound.ppc/ and

perf 3.47 beta 3, also at mills (incidentally, get info on this perf
yields version number of 0.3.4b3).


now i think the confusion arises from an all-in-one but *older* version
of csound 3.47 for mac, namely v3.471 on

ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/platforms/mac/PCCsound.hqx

this older version was short lived and soon replaced with simply the
newer perf, again designed to be run with the csound application
0.3.1b0.


in fairness to jean, i understand that he does not have a mac.


all correct?


tolve













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>i thought it was more like:
>thomas dolby started 'headspace', a company which is developing 'beatnik'.
>then sun asked dolby to work on the new 'JavaSound' api.

this is true...the Headspace Audio Engine is part of the JavaSound API which
also happens to be the core of Beatnik (plugin and Editor for the
Mac)...more info at:

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Malte-
Is this program finished? I checked the site below, but could not find
anything that looked like an executable. My apologies, but my German is
very rusty, and my technical German is non-existent. I would be very
interested in a tool like this.
Thanks.
-David.

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I would like to announce a program which can edit the hetrodyne files
> for
> adsyn I write these days. My goal is that you can edit the partial
> harmonics
> visually like envelopes in other programs, later modules will be add
> to edit
> the whole harmonics like filters and so on....
> 
> Malte
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On 25 Mar 98 at 8:51, Roger Klaveness wrote:

> If you wan't you may put it on one of your web-pages.
> Please mail me ( and or the csound-list ) if you do, so I
> can direct people who is interested.
> Thank you.

Hello ,

The URL is:

http://www.uel.br/Web/home/uel/ceca/dart/web/Pv2pict.zip

Thank you,



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Can someone point me to pieces of electroacoustic/psychofictional pieces
(that are available on CD at least) wich you have found really, really,
really impossible to talk about, or uncomparable to any other stuff....

 

David.

 














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LUMPY GRAVY (F.Z.) 
MOMENTE (Stockhausen) [not quite EA but really confusing]
All the stuff Xenakis did at GRM (Bohor,Concret P/h,etc...)
Most of the stuff by Cage (whatever...) 
Anything by GM Koening
The soundtrack from the "Titanic" played backward trough a ring modulator 

Are you confused yet?   


On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, David Schuyeteneer wrote:

> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:58:09 +0100
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> Subject: [Electroacoustic music] the quest for
> 
> 
> Can someone point me to pieces of electroacoustic/psychofictional pieces
> (that are available on CD at least) wich you have found really, really,
> really impossible to talk about, or uncomparable to any other stuff....
> 
 
> 
> 
David.
> 
 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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>
>Can someone point me to pieces of electroacoustic/psychofictional pieces
>(that are available on CD at least) wich you have found really, really,
>really impossible to talk about, or uncomparable to any other stuff....
>
 
>
>
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>LUMPY GRAVY (F.Z.)
>MOMENTE (Stockhausen) [not quite EA but really confusing]
>All the stuff Xenakis did at GRM (Bohor,Concret P/h,etc...)
>Most of the stuff by Cage (whatever...)
>Anything by GM Koening
>The soundtrack from the "Titanic" played backward trough a ring modulator
>
>Are you confused yet?


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> perf 3.47 beta 3, also at mills (incidentally, get info on this perf
> yields version number of 0.3.4b3).

This is because the Mac Version resource allows only one digit per
place.  Sorry - using the vers resource seemed like a good idea at the
time.  The banner in the output window should read MIT 3.47.

The perf 3.47 beta 3 on our ftp site is 3.47 as recently released by
jpff.  I am taking care of bugs but haven't really heard of many since
I announced that beta on this list, so there won't be much difference
between that and the non-beta release.  Matt recently took care of a
couple of front end bugs.  Soon as I have time check out a couple of
things I'll wrap up the new csound, perf and csref in a nice new bundle
and announce it AND the source code availability.  In the meantime
these things can be picked up separately from the ftp site at Mills.

> all correct?

Sounds good to me.

Dave

PS Re: recent thread - Matt, Mike and I were chomping at the bit to do
an extended csound port for the power mac, but it (slowly and
painfully) fell through.











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dave,

thanks very much for your response, and all efforts on behalf of macusers!
have been kind of depressed lately since April 98 Electronic Musician
"scope out the whole scene" article on software synths gave exceedingly
short shrift to the macintosh platform. my god not even a mention of max or
msp!

yeah i know the handwriting is on the wall, but still believe a
disproportionatly high number of music professionals operate on the mac
platform. now most of them may not be creating the blips and bleeps that i
am so fond of, but they do tend to spend a good deal more cash on high end
musical hardware and software.

hoping rhapsody will give the platform the kick in the butt it needs, or at
least that the mac holds out until i can upgrade to SGI. certainly you guys
will continue to develop for that in the forseeable future -won't you?

anyway, thanks again.

tolve

>> perf 3.47 beta 3, also at mills (incidentally, get info on this perf
>> yields version number of 0.3.4b3).
>
>This is because the Mac Version resource allows only one digit per
>place.  Sorry - using the vers resource seemed like a good idea at the
>time.  The banner in the output window should read MIT 3.47.
>
>The perf 3.47 beta 3 on our ftp site is 3.47 as recently released by
>jpff.  I am taking care of bugs but haven't really heard of many since
>I announced that beta on this list, so there won't be much difference
>between that and the non-beta release.  Matt recently took care of a
>couple of front end bugs.  Soon as I have time check out a couple of
>things I'll wrap up the new csound, perf and csref in a nice new bundle
>and announce it AND the source code availability.  In the meantime
>these things can be picked up separately from the ftp site at Mills.
>
>> all correct?
>
>Sounds good to me.
>
>Dave
>
>PS Re: recent thread - Matt, Mike and I were chomping at the bit to do
>an extended csound port for the power mac, but it (slowly and
>painfully) fell through.














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Well, I upgraded to SGI and I love it but know SGI is making an NT box
and it seems that the push is to the cheap (in more than one way) Intel
Pentium.... I dont see Apple or SGI going anyway though. They will be
around for a while yet.

Michael

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, tolve wrote:

> dave,
> 
> thanks very much for your response, and all efforts on behalf of macusers!
> have been kind of depressed lately since April 98 Electronic Musician
> "scope out the whole scene" article on software synths gave exceedingly
> short shrift to the macintosh platform. my god not even a mention of max or
> msp!
> 
> yeah i know the handwriting is on the wall, but still believe a
> disproportionatly high number of music professionals operate on the mac
> platform. now most of them may not be creating the blips and bleeps that i
> am so fond of, but they do tend to spend a good deal more cash on high end
> musical hardware and software.
> 
> hoping rhapsody will give the platform the kick in the butt it needs, or at
> least that the mac holds out until i can upgrade to SGI. certainly you guys
> will continue to develop for that in the forseeable future -won't you?
> 
> anyway, thanks again.
> 
> tolve
> 
> >> perf 3.47 beta 3, also at mills (incidentally, get info on this perf
> >> yields version number of 0.3.4b3).
> >
> >This is because the Mac Version resource allows only one digit per
> >place.  Sorry - using the vers resource seemed like a good idea at the
> >time.  The banner in the output window should read MIT 3.47.
> >
> >The perf 3.47 beta 3 on our ftp site is 3.47 as recently released by
> >jpff.  I am taking care of bugs but haven't really heard of many since
> >I announced that beta on this list, so there won't be much difference
> >between that and the non-beta release.  Matt recently took care of a
> >couple of front end bugs.  Soon as I have time check out a couple of
> >things I'll wrap up the new csound, perf and csref in a nice new bundle
> >and announce it AND the source code availability.  In the meantime
> >these things can be picked up separately from the ftp site at Mills.
> >
> >> all correct?
> >
> >Sounds good to me.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >PS Re: recent thread - Matt, Mike and I were chomping at the bit to do
> >an extended csound port for the power mac, but it (slowly and
> >painfully) fell through.
> 
> 
> 
> 












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Well, as a developer and user I sometimes have to stray into Windows land,
and I am always in a hurry to get back to the MacOS.  So as long as I like it
better, I will continue to develop for Mac.  Even if I have to write every
program I need myself.  Cheaper is one thing, but better is more important! 
And as far as my opinion goes, cheaper is the only thing that Wintel has going
for it (unless you are a commercial developer and the size of the installed
user base makes your eyes light up).  And as long as we in csound land have
all of the platforms covered, there is no reason not to use the one you like
the best.
-- 
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check out terra infirma by our very own richard karpen.  it kicks ass.

what does psychofictional mean?  are you making up words again?

pete


David Schuyeteneer wrote:

>  Can someone point me to pieces of electroacoustic/psychofictional
> pieces (that are available on CD at least) wich you have found really,
> really, really impossible to talk about, or uncomparable to any other
> stuff....
>
>
> David.
>














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I am a computer musician. My day job is C++ Unix programming for the
financial industry. I have to tell you that the future for Unix looks fairly
bleak to me. It is gradually increasing in absolute numbers in the high-end
server market, but it is losing market share in everything else, including
scientific and technical workstations, low-end workstations, graphics
workstations, and application servers. This has been happening for about six
or seven years.

Currently, Windows workstations offer more price/performance at the low and
middle ends of the workstation market than do Unix workstations.

Windows will not last forever, but I am reasonably confident that it will
increasingly dominate computing through at least several more generations of
software engineering (say, the next five years).

What I do personally is develop all my own stuff in Java. In theory, I
should be able to get it to work on any platform. I haven't yet tested this
theory (but I soon will be!). Sign of the times: Java, developed by Sun on
Solaris which is a flavor of Unix, runs measurably better on Windows than it
does on Solaris or any other Unix.

I have worked a little bit on SGI Indys, and I certainly admire the
machinery, but I think it is a mistake at this point to develop music
software on what is rapidly becoming a niche platform.

-----Original Message-----
From: tolve 
To: madole@mills.edu ; csound@noether.ex.ac.uk

Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: csound 3.47 for PPC?


>dave,
>
>thanks very much for your response, and all efforts on behalf of macusers!
>have been kind of depressed lately since April 98 Electronic Musician
>"scope out the whole scene" article on software synths gave exceedingly
>short shrift to the macintosh platform. my god not even a mention of max or
>msp!
>
>yeah i know the handwriting is on the wall, but still believe a
>disproportionatly high number of music professionals operate on the mac
>platform. now most of them may not be creating the blips and bleeps that i
>am so fond of, but they do tend to spend a good deal more cash on high end
>musical hardware and software.
>
>hoping rhapsody will give the platform the kick in the butt it needs, or at
>least that the mac holds out until i can upgrade to SGI. certainly you guys
>will continue to develop for that in the forseeable future -won't you?
>
>anyway, thanks again.
>
>tolve
>
>>> perf 3.47 beta 3, also at mills (incidentally, get info on this perf
>>> yields version number of 0.3.4b3).
>>
>>This is because the Mac Version resource allows only one digit per
>>place.  Sorry - using the vers resource seemed like a good idea at the
>>time.  The banner in the output window should read MIT 3.47.
>>
>>The perf 3.47 beta 3 on our ftp site is 3.47 as recently released by
>>jpff.  I am taking care of bugs but haven't really heard of many since
>>I announced that beta on this list, so there won't be much difference
>>between that and the non-beta release.  Matt recently took care of a
>>couple of front end bugs.  Soon as I have time check out a couple of
>>things I'll wrap up the new csound, perf and csref in a nice new bundle
>>and announce it AND the source code availability.  In the meantime
>>these things can be picked up separately from the ftp site at Mills.
>>
>>> all correct?
>>
>>Sounds good to me.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>PS Re: recent thread - Matt, Mike and I were chomping at the bit to do
>>an extended csound port for the power mac, but it (slowly and
>>painfully) fell through.
>
>
>
>












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Michael Gogins wrote:
> Currently, Windows workstations offer more price/performance at the low and
> middle ends of the workstation market than do Unix workstations.

I agree, if you're actually comparing commodity Intel boxes with
proprietary workstation hardware.  Mass-market is going to win, despite
all of the brain-dead baggage Intel carries.  I hope PPC survives, but
binary compatibility is a strong pressure.

Running both on Intel PCs, I'd say Unix and Windows have similar
performance.  (Windows apps tend to be more bloated because they get
upgraded more.)  Price is hard to measure, since Unix apps tend to be
either expensive or free.  But I think Windows will win here not on
performance/price but mostly for the usual positive-feedback reasons.

> What I do personally is develop all my own stuff in Java. In theory, I
> should be able to get it to work on any platform. I haven't yet tested this
> theory (but I soon will be!).

"Good luck... you'll need it."

-- 
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Luigi Nono - Musica Manifesta no.2 "Non Consumiamo Marx"

I also second the Xenakis esp. "Bohor"

Ash





>
>Can someone point me to pieces of electroacoustic/psychofictional pieces
>(that are available on CD at least) wich you have found really, really,
>really impossible to talk about, or uncomparable to any other stuff....
>
 
>
>
David.
>
 















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Platform fight alert!!!!

I disagree with Michael G. that developping music application on Unix is a
mistake. I have and will continue to do so.  In my considered cranky opinion,
Unix is the only computer operating system that is not brain-dead. Raw
performance/price ratios are one thing but usability, flexibility and solidity
are quite another; essential ingredients in making stuff stick together and be
productive, specially in multi-user environments. Anyone running a computer
music network in a University will have lived the nightmare of supporting Macs
and/or PCs...

A true multi-threaded multitasking OS is pre-requisite in my book to make usable
music software. Windows and Macs dont have that. Now, if you say NT... then I'll
have to admit that's Billy's ace in the hole....
 

-- 
________________________________________________________
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Universite de Montreal
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i dont really want to get in on this debate, but....
as far as i know, win95 is a "true multi-threaded multitasking OS".  i mean, they
say its multi threaded.  i can program threads into my applications quite easily.
so what do you mean?

pete



Jean Piche wrote:

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> music software. Windows and Macs dont have that. Now, if you say NT... then I'll
> have to admit that's Billy's ace in the hole....














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Eli Brandt wrote:

> Michael Gogins wrote:
> > Currently, Windows workstations offer more price/performance at the low and
> > middle ends of the workstation market than do Unix workstations.
>
> I agree, if you're actually comparing commodity Intel boxes with
> proprietary workstation hardware.  Mass-market is going to win, despite
> all of the brain-dead baggage Intel carries.  I hope PPC survives, but
> binary compatibility is a strong pressure.
>
> Running both on Intel PCs, I'd say Unix and Windows have similar
> performance.  (Windows apps tend to be more bloated because they get
> upgraded more.)  Price is hard to measure, since Unix apps tend to be
> either expensive or free.  But I think Windows will win here not on
> performance/price but mostly for the usual positive-feedback reasons.
>
> > What I do personally is develop all my own stuff in Java. In theory, I
> > should be able to get it to work on any platform. I haven't yet tested this
> > theory (but I soon will be!).
>
> "Good luck... you'll need it."
>
> --
>      Eli Brandt  |  eli+@cs.cmu.edu  |  http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~eli/

  I here that IBM has a PPC chip in dev that runs the PPC instruction set as
well as the Intel set...

I dont know... I have been forced to use WinNT 4.0 for 4 months once... I just
dont get the whole NT frenzy... I saw more of the Blue screen than that GUI
(which is not that bad if dont have work to do) and waiting for long/painfull
reboots more than I would have liked to... since this is the OS that "is
replacing Unix" (give me a break).... fast? no! stable? no! compatible? no! lack
of drivers? yes! resource hog? yes! and of course that GUI.... By the time NT is
out of its perpetual beta level it will be unix... posix threads already being
implemented.... openGL(SGI and Mircosoft working on this one)... NT ports of
unix utilities have already been done.... So, Microsoft is just reinventing
something that already exists again!!! and Again!!!! I dont get it....

I see, atleast in the states, there is not a price gap between PPC Macs and PCs
(given similar hardware configs) anymore... so price/performance isnt a high
point on Intel anymore, given the poor fp performance of the Intel chip... some
of us need fast fp math still.... software availability (abundance) and gaming
is where the Wintel/Dos PeeCee wins.

Michael
















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>I have worked a little bit on SGI Indys, and I certainly admire the
>machinery, but I think it is a mistake at this point to develop music
>software on what is rapidly becoming a niche platform.
>
I held on to my Amiga 500 way too long in the same hopes..............












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Michael A. Thompson wrote:

> So, Microsoft is just reinventing
> something that already exists again!!! and Again!!!! I dont get it....

For me, it comes down to a few things:

+ A printing system that is able to do a fairely good job with few programming
skills, giving most app a decent output (remember, printers always sucked)
+ Word followed by Office (would you do your presentation under Unix ?).
+ A lot of shareware now available (think about getting something like cool edit on
your box)

My 0.05 BEFs,

Marc.













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> It's not the hardware,as such - xyin is not implemented in the
> PC/Windows
> versions. It would not really work in Winsound, until it becomes fully
> responsive
> to GUI messages during performance.
> I have code for reading the mouse in DOS (courtesy the Microsoft
> Knowledge Base),
> which could in principle be added to the commandline version; the
> disadvantage is
> that I have never found any way to get more than character-level
> resolution -
> worst case 25steps up, 40 steps across! (There must be a way,
> somewhere  -
> fractint has hires mouse control for example, but they probably hack
> deep down
> into the bios or something).  I don't know about RTCsound; maybe  the
> problems
> are the same.

Exactly, xyin is not yet implemented in RTsound , maybe I will do this
thing in the near future.
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Gabriel Maldonado

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I read in the release notes for csound 3.47 there is an emacs mode for 
orc-files. Where can I get this emacs mode?

Is there a working binary for sun available? 
csound_beta at ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/platforms/unix/Sun/
creates empty files for files working with the old version (3.46)

I experienced the same result when I compiled v3.477 myself on Solaris.

I have done some solaris specific modifications of rtaudio.c to deal with audio input
and some modification of the realtime audio output. Is it of interest
to incorporate to the source distribution?

/Jonas











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Hello List,

thanks a lot for the interest for my upcomming program. Here some answers to
general questions:

I will release the first version in 1 or 2 weeks, sorry when I have confused
you, but on my websites you will find nothing about it.
It is the first step just including a visual editor for each participating
harmonic, which is on one hand very precise, I hope :), but a heavy way to
alter the files. Upcomming versions will include additional modules which can
handle the file as a whole. I have a lot of ideas which can be done with these
files like a vocoder which takes some values from one to another file,
something like the KAWAIsh 'Formant' filter thing they include in the K5XXXx
synths, which should of course morph and much more (but so less time...).

It will load and save the *.ads files the hetrodyne module of csound produces,
I don't have the time and knowledge to program analyses on my own, so far...

The software will programmed on Windows because I only have Wintel machines
around (someone to give me an Apple outthere?). Ok, I have setup Linux on my
old PC, but no knowledge of programming XWindows. I have no Mac but would like
to port because I don't like Apple to disappear -> I come from a time where
several homecomputers were on the market without compatibility, I liked those
times a lot, now only a few systems rules, it is somehow boring.
An idea would be to port it to Java according to a recent thread on the CSOUND
list, a later version will be done, ok? I prefered native C++ because of
excessive use of GUI and performance...and a warm up for a forthcomming
gameproject later this year. But I can program also JAVA so why not...

I will keep this list informed first,

CU,

Malte Steiner

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