Re: emacs mode for orc files etc

Date	1998-04-06 14:11
From	rasmus ekman
Subject	Re: emacs mode for orc files etc
	Jonas Bülow wrote: > > I read about a emacs mode for editing csound orc files. Where can I > find source code for this mode? ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/utilities/Emacs-macros/ > A lot of sound files are mentioned in the csound manual, like > imp20.aiff, mandpluck.aiff, twopeaks, fwavblnk, eee.aiff, ooo.aif > etc. Where can I find these files? ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/documentation/sounds/modelling/ > Where can i find the file "HRTFcompact" or any other hrtf file? ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/utilities/Analysis/ Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02120; 6 Apr 98 19:15 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa22290; 6 Apr 98 19:14 BST Received: (qmail 1932 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 18:14:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 18:14:53 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAB00721); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:10:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 19:09:52 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by hermes via SMTP (TAA06709); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:09:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 331 invoked by uid 3049); 6 Apr 1998 11:08:36 -0700 Message-Id: <19980406180836.329.qmail@ella.mills.edu> From: David Madole Subject: Re: ETA feature request To: "Jim Stevenson Ph.D" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, rasmus.ekman@hexagon.se Reply-To: madole@mills.edu In-Reply-To: <199804041938.LAA17411@eos.arc.nasa.gov> from "Jim Stevenson Ph.D" at Apr 4, 98 11:38:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > Yes. Please put in a text option for the heart beat, so blind people can use it. > Okay - I've been meaning to add some kind of progress indicator so for now I'll just print out something having to do with the last s & i cards read. This will have to be taken with a grain of salt as what will be reported upon is the sorted, tempo adjusted score (progress in score.srt). If simple enough I'll put in a progress bar, too. Dave Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02161; 6 Apr 98 19:24 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa22888; 6 Apr 98 19:24 BST Received: (qmail 20535 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 18:24:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 18:24:41 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA26802); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:21:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 19:21:22 +0100 Received: from root@[194.184.60.149] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA03083); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:21:05 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26447; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:46:37 +0200 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:46:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Csound mailing list , Linux Audio Development Mailing list Subject: Re: ADI Csound SDK/Csounders swear !?! In-Reply-To: <199804060146.NAA05160@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Tony Grimwood wrote: > > the ADI card only runs under Win95. It will run under any Pentium cpu. > > It's a PCI card which should plug into a Mac or maybe other boxes. Now if > we could only chisel the driver info out of ADI... Right... so maybe people other than win95ers (not only mac, I was thinking of linux) could use that too... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02175; 6 Apr 98 19:31 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa23101; 6 Apr 98 19:30 BST Received: (qmail 20575 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 18:30:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 18:30:57 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA20951); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:26:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 19:26:03 +0100 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.103] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA11518); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 19:25:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.70]) by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with ESMTP id OAA03405 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:26:21 -0400 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.73]) by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06348; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pichej@localhost) by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01961; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Piche Jean Subject: Re: ADI Csound SDK/Csounders swear !?! To: Nicola Bernardini Cc: Csound mailing list , Linux Audio Development Mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > > > the ADI card only runs under Win95. It will run under any Pentium cpu. > > > > It's a PCI card which should plug into a Mac or maybe other boxes. Now if > > we could only chisel the driver info out of ADI... > > Right... so maybe people other than win95ers (not only mac, I was > thinking of linux) could use that too... > Unlikely to happen anytime soon. _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean Piche Musique - UdM pichej@ERE.Umontreal.ca Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02512; 6 Apr 98 21:55 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00582; 6 Apr 98 21:54 BST Received: (qmail 9403 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 20:55:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 20:55:15 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (VAA21011); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:52:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 21:51:35 +0100 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.118.20] by hermes via ESMTP (VAA10030); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:51:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (from jim-ra@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA08933 for csound@noether.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:51:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:51:23 -0700 From: Jim Stevenson's reader Message-Id: <199804062051.NAA08933@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: humor, PC police, & SG album Csound joke thread :) Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From ingalls@ella.mills.edu Sat Apr 4 11:23:54 1998 id LAA17056 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:23:51 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:23:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" cc: bbattey@u.washington.edu, jim-ra@eos.arc.nasa.gov, csound@noether.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: humor wasSpice girls album recorded using CSound? @ Mills? ;) Eeeek! I know I probably shouldn't be continueing this April Fools joke thread in this List sooo I'll try take make this my last humorous reply ... > >> I am really sick of the hypersensativity that misinterprets every joke as > > ya'll should know by now that jokes (especially bad ones) dont fly >too well over email - Actually I get PLENTY of e-mail jokes every week and they 'fly' quite well with me :^P >one should be "sensitive" at least to save getting flamed and tons >of replys back (to you and this list!) Go ahead and flame away... I use an asbestos based Usenet and e-mail browser and sum very think skin ( and probably thincker skull :) >--->be glad that this thread wasn't forwarded to the Mills >student list!!!!! Why not ;) Back in my Undergraduate days @ SJSU every once in a while when my frat ( Sigma Alpha Mu ) heard the girls @ Mills where throughing a party we'd go on a road trip up there ( Hey, the ratio wuz definely in our favor )!!! I always found _most_ of the girls @ Mills not PC uptight... take a chill pill man :) Maybe you should just relax an' listen to some of your calmer Csound scores ;) > > and if you really don't want people to be "hypersensAtive" then >fuck you! :^P >Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so >ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel > >Disclaimer: While I am an NASA contractor, all opinions expressed are my own, > and do not reflect the position of NASA, NETCOM, or Zippy the Pinhead. >====================================== Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02570; 6 Apr 98 22:35 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02706; 6 Apr 98 22:35 BST Received: (qmail 11414 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 21:35:37 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA19895); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:32:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 22:32:04 +0100 Received: from root@[194.184.60.149] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA11281); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:31:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27265; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:22:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:22:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Piche Jean Cc: Csound mailing list , Linux Audio Development Mailing list Subject: Re: ADI Csound SDK/Csounders swear !?! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Piche Jean wrote: > > > > > > the ADI card only runs under Win95. It will run under any Pentium cpu. > > > > > > It's a PCI card which should plug into a Mac or maybe other boxes. Now if > > > we could only chisel the driver info out of ADI... > > > > Right... so maybe people other than win95ers (not only mac, I was > > thinking of linux) could use that too... > > > > Unlikely to happen anytime soon. > Why? If the specs where public, it would probably be so quick to build the right development tools for that card; oh well, who cares, there are so many other cards... Nicola ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02599; 6 Apr 98 22:49 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03470; 6 Apr 98 22:48 BST Received: (qmail 12091 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 21:48:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 21:48:52 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA17396); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:44:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Apr 98 22:43:59 +0100 Received: from mailhost.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.1.4] (may be forged) by hermes via ESMTP (WAA09365); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:43:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [130.216.90.142] (t.grimwood.mus.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.90.142]) by mailhost.auckland.ac.nz (8.8.5/8.7.3-ua) with SMTP id JAA02270; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:43:16 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199804062143.JAA02270@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Subject: Re: ADI Csound SDK/Csounders swear !?! Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 09:43:16 +1200 X-Sender: grimwood@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Tony Grimwood To: RWD@cableinet.co.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.stork Cc: Jean Piche , Drew Skyfyre , csound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >The ink is far from dry on the Win95 drivers, and indeed on the development >libraries themselves, and I have already asked for enhancements to all of >them, such as full multi-channel I/O. It may be a while before drivers for >other platforms appear, and I doubt if they will let out low-level hardware >details to third parties. Perhaps it will in any case be reasonable for them >to get the Win95 support reasonably solid and complete first, (to say nothing >of NT), so that there can then be some level of cross-platform parity in the >development APIs. I think it is especially important for all those who do >have the Win95 installation to make their needs know to ADI - it seems to me >there is still a lot of development to be done yet, and that input can only >help that work. There are csound users who are also competent software developers. ADI could have the driver code ported to other OSs for free if they wished it to happen. Maybe they're reluctant to offend a potential buyer of the technology... TG BTW - does Scotty Vercoe subscribe to this list? Tony Grimwood Technician, School of Music University of Auckland New Zealand Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02902; 7 Apr 98 0:25 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa08320; 7 Apr 98 0:24 BST Received: (qmail 22245 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1998 23:24:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Apr 1998 23:24:54 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA13081); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:21:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 00:20:46 +0100 Received: from bq2369@yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu [155.99.2.5] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA01148); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:20:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (bq2369@localhost) by yoop.oz.cc.utah.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00791 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:43 -0600 (MDT) From: bruce quaglia X-Sender: bq2369@yoop To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: jokes & their discussion should go to private email Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Regardless of whether one finds a particular joke funny or in bad taste, this whole business belonged in private email quite some time ago and has nothing at all to do with Csound. This is a fairly thick list to begin with.....thanks. Bruce Quaglia University of Utah Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03043; 7 Apr 98 1:30 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11813; 7 Apr 98 1:29 BST Received: (qmail 17654 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 00:29:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 00:29:58 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (BAA12536); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:26:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 01:26:40 +0100 Received: from jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9] by hermes via SMTP (BAA05907); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 01:26:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7801 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 00:21:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.146.75) by jaguars with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 00:21:17 -0000 Message-Id: <3529727A.CFB6C83A@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 01:25:30 +0100 From: Richard Dobson Reply-To: RWD@cableinet.co.uk Organization: Composers Desktop Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Grimwood Cc: Jean Piche , csound Subject: Re: ADI Csound SDK/Csounders swear !?! References: <199804062143.JAA02270@mailhost.auckland.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It's not as simple as that. The card is not an end-user piece of equipment, where all you have to do is write ordinary data to port adresses. The drivers do a lot of host-side work, not least linking the opcodes for an orchestra into a SHARC Csound executable, which is then downloaded to the card. This requires the use of the g21k linker, which as I noted before, is almost certainly not available for the Mac; it is a commandline tool. Hardware developers are used to such an environment, and the PC (like other 'industry standard' machines such as Sun workstations) is long-established in that role. For better or worse, the Mac is far less well-adapted to that role. Also, the drivers have to jump through quite a few hoops to enable the card to emulate a conventional soundcard. Some of those hoops are not very rounded, or even stable; if the card is to be developed (as I hope) as a soundcard, as well as an OEM product, substantive changes to the overall design will need to be made. I am also under the clear impression that ADI are not ready to release the necessary low-level board details yet; you might need to use something other than ink to sign the non-disclosure agreement! Some of the enhancements I have asked for, like multi-channel file support, involve updates to the Csound code itself, and the board-side interface, as well as to the drivers, and I can well understand that ADI would want to wait until things are rather more consolidated before developing, or even encouraging, support on other platforms. So let us all encourage ADI to get it right on the PC; only then it will be ready to port to the Mac, and only then will Mac developers know what they have to port. I don't know if Scotty Vercoe reads, or subscribes to, this list. No doubt we will all find out sooner or later! Richard Dobson Tony Grimwood wrote: > > > There are csound users who are also competent software developers. ADI > could have the driver code ported to other OSs for free if they wished it > to happen. Maybe they're reluctant to offend a potential buyer of the > technology... > > > > BTW - does Scotty Vercoe subscribe to this list? > > Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03174; 7 Apr 98 2:25 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa14664; 7 Apr 98 2:24 BST Received: (qmail 22865 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 01:24:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 01:24:56 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (CAA07312); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:19:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 02:19:40 +0100 Received: from neptune.lyrick.com [38.227.100.46] by hermes via ESMTP (CAA04082); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 02:19:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by NEPTUNE.lyrick.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2FPJJL7Z>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:19:09 -0500 Message-Id: From: David Boothe To: "'csound@maths.ex.ac.uk'" Subject: linenr problem Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:19:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please excuse me if this gets posted twice. It didn't seem to go through the first time. In attempting to use linenr in the following orc/sco, I must be making a fundamental mistake somewhere, but I can't see it. From the manual's description, I would expect linenr to extend the note to about 1.5 seconds, with the last .5 second being an exponential decay. Instead, the note cuts off at 1 second. Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? Thank you in advance. -dB (David M. Boothe) ;here's the orchestra ------------------------------------- sr = 44100 kr = 4410 ksmps = 10 nchnls = 1 instr 04 idur = p3 ;initial duration of note iamp = p4 ;initial amp of note ifn = 4 ;number of ftable for audio waveform irise = idur/2 ;attack time of noise idec = .5 ;exponential decay time of noise - appended at note off (!?) krange = 15000 ;range of noise gen iatdec = .01 ;attenuation factor for exponential decay anoisc atrirand krange aampe linenr iamp, irise, idec, iatdec a1 oscili aampe, anoisc, ifn out a1 endin ;and the score ------------------------------------------ f4 0 256 10 1 i4 0 1 15000 e Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03567; 7 Apr 98 5:58 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28994; 7 Apr 98 5:58 BST Received: (qmail 24291 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 04:58:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 04:58:37 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (FAA05932); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:55:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 05:55:33 +0100 Received: from mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32] by hermes via ESMTP (FAA17312); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:55:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from 166.84.193.170 (coble.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.170]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id AAA26346; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3528D0AC.36F59FD2@panix.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:55:09 +0000 From: Michael Coble X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: rasmus ekman Cc: Jonas B\|low , Csound list Subject: Re: emacs mode for orc files etc X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <13608.49444.3671.433256@karmosin09.nada.kth.se> <3528D46C.6481@hexagon.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id FAA17312 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk rasmus ekman wrote: > > Jonas Bülow wrote: > > > > I read about a emacs mode for editing csound orc files. Where can I > > find source code for this mode? > > ftp://ftp.maths.bath.ac.uk/pub/dream/utilities/Emacs-macros/ > I downloaded these emacs lisp files, attempted to byte-compile them, and they were referencing another file "tempo." Where is tempo.el? Another location perhaps? thanks, -- Michael Coble, Time Inc. New Media, Pathfinder Music: http://pathfinder.com/pathfinder/staff/mcoble/music/ Gallery: http://www.panix.com/~coble, representing various artists Hitman: http://pathfinder.com/pathfinder/staff/mcoble/ Work: http://pathfinder.com/ Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04000; 7 Apr 98 10:13 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11892; 7 Apr 98 10:12 BST Received: (qmail 3647 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 09:12:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 09:12:49 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (KAA22826); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:07:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 10:07:27 +0100 Received: from newton1.bathspa.ac.uk [194.81.80.17] by hermes via ESMTP (KAA03220); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:07:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from bathspa.ac.uk ([194.81.81.98]) by newton1.bathspa.ac.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 193; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:08:16 +0100 Message-Id: <352A5D7C.10E90621@bathspa.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 10:08:13 -0700 From: Derek Pierce X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: David Boothe Cc: "'csound@maths.ex.ac.uk'" Subject: Re: linenr problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi David Is it because in the score the toalt duration is only one second? Derek Pierce David Boothe wrote: > Please excuse me if this gets posted twice. It didn't seem to go through > the first time. > > In attempting to use linenr in the following orc/sco, I must be making a > fundamental mistake somewhere, but I can't see it. From the manual's > description, I would expect linenr to extend the note to about 1.5 > seconds, with the last .5 second being an exponential decay. Instead, > the note cuts off at 1 second. Could someone please tell me what I am > doing wrong? > > Thank you in advance. > > -dB > (David M. Boothe) > > ;here's the orchestra ------------------------------------- > sr = 44100 > kr = 4410 > ksmps = 10 > nchnls = 1 > > instr 04 > > idur = p3 ;initial duration of > note > iamp = p4 ;initial amp of note > ifn = 4 ;number of ftable for > audio waveform > irise = idur/2 ;attack time of noise > idec = .5 ;exponential decay time > of noise - appended at note off (!?) > krange = 15000 ;range of noise gen > iatdec = .01 ;attenuation > factor for exponential decay > > anoisc atrirand krange > aampe linenr iamp, irise, idec, iatdec > a1 oscili aampe, anoisc, ifn > out a1 > endin > > ;and the score ------------------------------------------ > f4 0 256 10 1 > > i4 0 1 15000 > e Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04166; 7 Apr 98 11:50 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa17996; 7 Apr 98 11:49 BST Received: (qmail 25656 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 10:50:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 10:50:07 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA13881); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:42:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:42:37 +0100 Received: from mailhub2.arts.gla.ac.uk [130.209.96.13] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA15625); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:42:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (celeste.music.gla.ac.uk [130.209.97.23]) by mailhub2.arts.gla.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21758 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:50:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from guitar.music.gla.ac.uk (guitar [130.209.97.35]) by music.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA29597 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:42:32 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199804071042.LAA29597@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by guitar.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA01677; Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:42:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:42:28 +0100 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Floating point problems and sscanf Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I am working on the NeXTstep version of 3.47, and intend to submit the changes to the maintainers for inclusion in 3.48. I am working on a NeXTstep-running P133, and have found some very annoying floating point errors. I wonder if anyone else, on any other platform, has successfully tackled this sort of problem. I have also tried out experiments with IRIX 5.2, 6.2, and also with a more recent version of gcc on NS3.3. ALL of the platforms above suffer the same problem! I discovered the problem when trying to compile a score and orchestra with the following kr, sr, ksmps, resulting in the following error: sr = 22050.000000, kr = 1000.000000, ksmps = 22.049999 error: inconsistent sr, kr, ksmps Of course, I had tried to use ksmps as 22.05. At first I thought it was the sscanf in otran.c (constndx) that was playing up, but then I experimented with some code fragments only to find that even if I assigned "(float) newval = 22.05", "if (newval = 22.05)" would fail. Now I realise that floating point data is not perfect, but this is ridiculous. Is this something that can be fixed/worked around, or do we all just grit our teeth and try to avoid certain numbers? Cheers, Stephen Brandon --- Systems Administrator, Department of Music, e-mail: S.Brandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland G12 8QH Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04188; 7 Apr 98 12:05 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa18946; 7 Apr 98 12:05 BST Received: (qmail 25758 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 11:05:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 11:05:37 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA13252); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:50:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:49:49 +0100 Received: from mailhub2.arts.gla.ac.uk [130.209.96.13] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA01555); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:49:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (celeste.music.gla.ac.uk [130.209.97.23]) by mailhub2.arts.gla.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA21803 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:57:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from guitar.music.gla.ac.uk (guitar [130.209.97.35]) by music.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA29626 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:49:54 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199804071049.LAA29626@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by guitar.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA01687; Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:49:53 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin Date: Tue, 7 Apr 98 11:49:52 +0100 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Csound on NeXTStep, OpenStep, Rhapsody Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Just to let you know that as soon as I get my developer version of Rhapsody I will be working on a port. Over the next week or 2 I will be replacing all the legacy MIDI stuff in the NeXTSTEP version to work with the latest version of the MusicKit MIDI driver and this will be submitted for inclusion into the standard distribution. The real-time audio will never work on old NeXT stations (tried it -- they are too slow, and the sound chops up), but there is no reason why it should not work on PCs running NeXTStep/OpenStep. I believe that the Csound front end for NeXTSTEP will be ported, but I will leave that to the guy who write it. Long live NeXTSTEP/Rhapsody! Stephen Brandon --- Systems Administrator, Department of Music, e-mail: S.Brandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland G12 8QH Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04230; 7 Apr 98 12:46 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21294; 7 Apr 98 12:46 BST Received: (qmail 15308 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 11:46:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 11:46:23 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (MAA01452); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:38:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 12:38:12 +0100 Received: from strato-fe0.ultra.net [146.115.8.190] by hermes via ESMTP (MAA01276); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from jhvh1 (trismegist.ultranet.com [199.232.96.18]) by strato-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult.n14767) with SMTP id HAA19710 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980407073954.0090aa80@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: maliq@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 07:39:54 -0400 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: DJTA Quinn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'll be shortly trying to get csound running in realtime to experiment with what my machine will handle. To save time, I thought someone out there might answer me a basic question. I'm running NT on a CyrixP6 with, and just upgraded to v3.47 from 3.46. In the hlp doc for v3.47 on the realtime topic it says : Winsound however (in the file csound_win.zip on the Bath/Montreal servers) can use the Windows sound subsystem. ...and then gives flag info and whatnot , and says to use 'csound' at the cmd line. But csound_win.zip only contains winsound.exe. Can winsound be used like csound at the command line for realtime (or faketime for that matter)? Also any obvious pitfalls for getting started, like getting the pipe to the hardware right. (I have a SB16 and a TB Multisound Monterey) ....Actually, can the GUI Winsound do realtime? Thanks tons. DQ Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04282; 7 Apr 98 13:02 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa22257; 7 Apr 98 13:02 BST Received: (qmail 16184 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1998 12:02:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Apr 1998 12:02:39 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (MAA23392); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:50:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Apr 98 12:49:58 +0100 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.103] by hermes via ESMTP (MAA17368); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:49:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.70]) by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with ESMTP id HAA16659 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:47:16 -0400 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.73]) by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA23969; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:47:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pichej@localhost) by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA23525; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Piche Jean Subject: Re: linenr problem To: David Boothe Cc: "'csound@maths.ex.ac.uk'" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > In attempting to use linenr in the following orc/sco, I must be making a > fundamental mistake somewhere, but I can't see it. From the manual's > description, I would expect linenr to extend the note to about 1.5 > seconds, with the last .5 second being an exponential decay. Instead, > the note cuts off at 1 second. Could someone please tell me what I am > doing wrong? linenr only works with midi. _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean Piche Musique - UdM pichej@ERE.Umontreal.ca