Re: writing to a wave

Date	1999-07-03 14:39
From	richard bowers
Subject	Re: writing to a wave
	I know this may sound obvious, but you will also need to ensure the .wav extension is written on the filename at the command-line (if you use one) else it won't be picked up by many players. (ie, it's not automatically written on). An extra tip: I always use the -R flag to enable me to terminate execution and still have a readable wav file. OK? Richard Bowers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Smitherman To: patrick pagano ; Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 2:46 AM Subject: Re: writing to a wave > use the following switch on the command line, everytime. > > -W create a WAV format output soundfile > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick pagano > To: > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:18 PM > Subject: writing to a wave > > > > can someone please go over how i can get 3.55 to write to wav everytime > > thanks > > Pat > > > > p.s. I posted this a while back got some answers then had a big > > harddrive crash > > thanks again folks > > > > > > Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00712; 3 Jul 99 15:23 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Qhd-0008JA-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:23:37 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA08160); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:20:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:19:59 +0100 Received: from relay.interim.iamworld.net [204.91.241.82] by hermes via ESMTP (PAA07875); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:19:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from isengardii (1Cust199.tnt1.natchez.ms.da.uu.net [63.11.131.199]) by relay.interim.iamworld.net (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA78367; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <014901bec55e$f4ac8fe0$5f830b3f@isengardii> From: Jim Smitherman To: patrick pagano , csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos References: <377D1E9D.616D378D@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: writing to a wave Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 09:18:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In addition to Richard Bowers additions, let me go ahead and give a straight example of such a command line, examples always helps me with these kinds of things: csound -oyourfile.wav -g -W -R yourfile.orc yourfile.sco the -o let's you name the file, the -g suppresses graphics, which keeps your monitor from popping modes back and forth, the -W makes it a wav file, the -R rewrites the header continually. Best thing to do, is what I just did, confer with the Csound help file! there is one for v. 3.55, probably can find it on the Bath server. ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick pagano To: Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 3:18 PM Subject: writing to a wave > can someone please go over how i can get 3.55 to write to wav everytime > thanks > Pat > > p.s. I posted this a while back got some answers then had a big > harddrive crash > thanks again folks > > Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00771; 3 Jul 99 16:01 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110RIF-0005ak-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:01:27 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA14950); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:58:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:57:51 +0100 Received: from mail2.lax.netzero.net [209.0.233.37] by hermes via SMTP (PAA13011); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:57:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 18914 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 1999 14:57:49 -0000 Received: from pppa51-montgomeryb1-2r444.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.10.68.209) by mail2.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 14:57:49 -0000 Message-ID: <377E2534.130E7D55@netzero.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 09:59:03 -0500 From: Sherlock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "csound@maths.ex.ac.uk" Subject: AIF VS WAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it can change in pitch. Second question: Should I make my sound wave files in AIF then convert to WAV? If I remember right, they sounded better that way. Sherlock ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00834; 3 Jul 99 16:25 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Rfv-0008Jw-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:25:55 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA10254); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:22:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:22:22 +0100 Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212] by hermes via ESMTP (QAA04370); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:22:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-64.iodine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.26.64] helo=internetpc) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110RcQ-0002SO-00; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:22:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bec568$0e84afc0$401a883e@internetpc> From: richard bowers To: Sherlock Cc: csound csound References: <377E2534.130E7D55@netzero.net> Subject: Re: AIF VS WAV Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:23:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk An additional feature of AIFF, I believe, is that you can use loop points in the file to extend its duration. > What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess > that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it > can change in pitch. > Second question: Should I make my sound wave files in AIF then convert > to WAV? > If I remember right, they sounded better that way. > Sherlock > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00905; 3 Jul 99 17:14 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110SRG-0005c6-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:14:50 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA05928); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:11:20 +0100 Received: from jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9] by hermes via SMTP (RAA15948); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:11:19 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21158 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 16:07:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.146.99) by jaguars with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 16:07:06 -0000 Message-ID: <377E378C.8BCDD8BF@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:17:16 +0100 From: Richard Dobson Organization: Composers Desktop Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: AIF VS WAV References: <377E2534.130E7D55@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The material diference between AIF and WAV is that the order of the bytes is different ('big-endian' and 'little-endian'), reflecting their roots respectively on Motorola (and SGI) and Intel platforms. The ability to be used as a sample is only 'built-in' if the required special information chunks are included in the header. Such chunks are defined for both formats, perhaps the use of AIFF files is just more widespread. The decision to convert betweeen formats is essentially pragmatic - what does your plaform and software support better? If you lose that sampler information in the conversion (which could easily happen, depending on the program), that may not help you. At present, Csound only reads 'instrument' data for AIFF. Probably John, or I, or somebody, will remedy that ere long. Conversion does not, however, change the audio data sonically in any way (unless you are actually changing the sample rate or wordsize, of course), unless there is some bug in the conversion program. So I cannot account for any perceived difference under a 'scientific' paradigm. Richard Dobson Sherlock wrote: > > What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess > that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it > can change in pitch. > Second question: Should I make my sound wave files in AIF then convert > to WAV? > If I remember right, they sounded better that way. > Sherlock > -- Test your DAW with my Soundcard Attrition Page! http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/rwd (LU: 27th June 1999) CDP: http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masjpf/CDP/CDP.htm (LU: 14th June 1999) Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00911; 3 Jul 99 17:15 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110SSH-0008KN-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:15:53 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA13142); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:12:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:12:18 +0100 Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA00761); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:12:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-64.iodine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.26.64] helo=internetpc) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110SOn-0002lx-00 for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01bec56f$0901b0a0$401a883e@internetpc> From: richard bowers To: csound csound Subject: soundout opcode Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:13:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone able to tell me if the soundout opcode safely overwrites output files in the event of, say, subsequent passes of the instrument which contains it? And if so, can the output file be called by a soundin opcode elsewhere (I assume it would object to being called whilst being written!) Thanks in anticipation, Richard Bowers. Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00927; 3 Jul 99 17:18 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110SUv-0005c8-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:18:37 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA06192); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:15:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:14:59 +0100 Received: from jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9] by hermes via SMTP (RAA14996); Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:14:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21314 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1999 16:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cableinet.co.uk) (194.117.146.99) by jaguars with SMTP; 3 Jul 1999 16:10:46 -0000 Message-ID: <377E3868.58306D87@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:20:56 +0100 From: Richard Dobson Organization: Composers Desktop Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound Subject: Re: AIF VS WAV References: <377E2534.130E7D55@netzero.net> <000b01bec568$0e84afc0$401a883e@internetpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk That's available in WAVE too (the 'smpl' chunk with 'sample-loop' data - defined ca 1993); it's simply a matter of these chunks being used. Richard Dobson richard bowers wrote: > > An additional feature of AIFF, I believe, is that you can use loop points in > the file to extend its duration. > > > What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess > > that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it > > can change in pitch. > > Second question: Should I make my sound wave files in AIF then convert > > to WAV? > > If I remember right, they sounded better that way. > > Sherlock > > -- Test your DAW with my Soundcard Attrition Page! http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/rwd (LU: 27th June 1999) CDP: http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masjpf/CDP/CDP.htm (LU: 14th June 1999) Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01315; 4 Jul 99 0:11 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Yw8-0008PO-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:11:08 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA07570); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:06:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:06:35 +0100 Received: from howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA18462); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:06:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dial88.werewolf.net [12.23.153.88]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA00882; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:54:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001601bec5a9$bf51b320$5899170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Music DSP , Csound Subject: Csound Magazine Summer 1999 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:14:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id AAA18462 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Greetings, The summer issue of Csound Magazine is now complete and available at: http://www.werewolf.net/~hljmm/Ezine/ COLUMNS Beginners: Envelopes by Hans Mikelson Synthesis: Sound Generation with the Julia Set by Hans Mikelson Processing: Delay by Hans Mikelson Real-time: Using Midi Sequencers with Csound by Hans Mikelson FEATURES Using AXCsound by Michael Gogins Csound Composition Approaches, Attitudes and Styles by Michael Rhoades Using CMask in Ecological modeling by Dami=E1n Keller Enjoy, Hans Mikelson Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01324; 4 Jul 99 0:16 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Z1R-0005hB-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:16:37 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA04660); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:14:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:14:16 +0100 Received: from out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA04478); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:14:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-101-210-103.dc.us.ibm.net [32.101.210.103]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA221992 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:14:13 GMT Message-ID: <377E9A61.C7E35048@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:18:57 -0400 From: "Job M. van Zuijlen" Reply-To: zuijlen@ibm.net Organization: electona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: Re: AIF VS WAV References: <377E2534.130E7D55@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I thought (Mac users please correct me) that .wav files cannot be read on the Mac. I know that both .wav and .aif(f) files can be read under Windows. Sherlock wrote: > > What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess > that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it > can change in pitch. Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01361; 4 Jul 99 0:39 BST Received: from [156.3.140.104] (helo=shoko.calarts.edu) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110ZNn-0005iI-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:39:43 +0100 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by shoko.calarts.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06972 for music-dsp-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:06:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shoko.calarts.edu: majordom set sender to owner-music-dsp@shoko.calarts.edu using -f Received: from howl.werewolf.net (howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10]) by shoko.calarts.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06968 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (dial88.werewolf.net [12.23.153.88]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA00882; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 17:54:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001601bec5a9$bf51b320$5899170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Music DSP , Csound Subject: Csound Magazine Summer 1999 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:14:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-music-dsp@shoko.calarts.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: music-dsp@shoko.calarts.edu Greetings, The summer issue of Csound Magazine is now complete and available at: http://www.werewolf.net/~hljmm/Ezine/ COLUMNS Beginners: Envelopes by Hans Mikelson Synthesis: Sound Generation with the Julia Set by Hans Mikelson Processing: Delay by Hans Mikelson Real-time: Using Midi Sequencers with Csound by Hans Mikelson FEATURES Using AXCsound by Michael Gogins Csound Composition Approaches, Attitudes and Styles by Michael Rhoades Using CMask in Ecological modeling by Damin Keller Enjoy, Hans Mikelson dupswapdrop: the music-dsp mailing list and website http://shoko.calarts.edu/~glmrboy/musicdsp/music-dsp.html Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01371; 4 Jul 99 0:47 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110ZVS-0008QJ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:47:38 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA07483); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:43:37 +0100 (BST) From: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:43:19 +0100 Received: from saba.wwa.com [198.49.174.36] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA00258); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:43:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from [207.241.62.32] (poolf5-031.wwa.com [207.241.62.32]) by saba.wwa.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA03565 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:43:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907032343.SAA03565@saba.wwa.com> X-Sender: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:45:29 -0600 To: Csound List Subject: Re: AIF VS WAV Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I thought (Mac users please correct me) kom vousz voulesz. ma! tr! mov!e pla!r par eczmpl. [sndhak (!nzert prznl data) k!nematek nato.0+55 etc] or photoshop !f 1 dz!rez >that .wav files cannot be read >on the Mac. I know that both .wav and .aif(f) files can be read under >Windows. > >Sherlock wrote: >> >> What is the differernce between AIFF and WAV? I can personally guess >> that AIFF can be used as samples in CSOUND rather that WAV because it >> can change in pitch. perm!t zom 1 2 zm!le +? plz df!n `pitch` = ab.zurd Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01382; 4 Jul 99 0:53 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110Zau-0005iM-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:53:16 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (AAA07524); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:49:52 +0100 (BST) From: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:49:36 +0100 Received: from saba.wwa.com [198.49.174.36] by hermes via ESMTP (AAA08963); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:49:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from [207.241.62.32] (poolf5-031.wwa.com [207.241.62.32]) by saba.wwa.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA04257 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907032349.SAA04257@saba.wwa.com> X-Sender: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:51:46 -0600 To: Csound Subject: Re: Csound Magazine Summer 1999 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Greetings, > >The summer issue of Csound Magazine is now complete and available at: > >http://www.werewolf.net/~hljmm/Ezine/ "Hans Mikelson" tak >Using CMask in Ecological modeling by Dami=E1n Keller tak band w ! dth Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01613; 4 Jul 99 3:16 BST Received: from [139.130.53.38] (helo=toad.ilogic.com.au ident=postfix) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110bpV-0005jd-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:16:42 +0100 Received: by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix) id C27A825277; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:16:13 +1000 (EST) Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev-list@toad.ilogic.com.au Received: by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix, from userid 91) id A4E7225278; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:16:13 +1000 (EST) Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0945A25277 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:16:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from gmx.net (130-149-145-33.dialup.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.145.33]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA27104; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 04:10:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377EC3A5.9870ECBC@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:15:01 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CSound , Csound Linux/Unix Development Group Subject: [CUD] oss/csound Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Precedence: bulk Hello again. My patch for unoff.-linux-csound now includes the new commandline switches --ossin device --ossout device They enable OSS/linux users with two soundcards to choose one card for audio input and the other for output. The patch now is in standard diff format and should be more easily applied to different versions of the unoff. distribution. I tested with 3.53 and 3.54 and it worked fine. It can be found under http://cs.tu-berlin.de/~kerstens/ossrtaudio.tar.gz Since I only have one soundcard I rely on users who have several ones (and are interested) for reports on how the driver works in this respect. One more fine thing I'd try to implement is four (and maybe more) channel real-time output using two (ore more) OSS supported devices. Maybe someone could give me some good hints on how/where buffering/input/output of multichannel files is coded, if such a thing is possible at all and if it has been tried/realized before. [steve] -- contact steve-k@gmx.net visit http://w3.to/K-Hornz Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa01622; 4 Jul 99 3:18 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110brq-0008RP-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:18:54 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (DAA03821); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:16:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:16:06 +0100 Received: from root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13] by hermes via ESMTP (DAA15378); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:16:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gmx.net (130-149-145-33.dialup.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.145.33]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA27104; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 04:10:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377EC3A5.9870ECBC@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:15:01 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CSound , Csound Linux/Unix Development Group Subject: oss/csound Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello again. My patch for unoff.-linux-csound now includes the new commandline switches --ossin device --ossout device They enable OSS/linux users with two soundcards to choose one card for audio input and the other for output. The patch now is in standard diff format and should be more easily applied to different versions of the unoff. distribution. I tested with 3.53 and 3.54 and it worked fine. It can be found under http://cs.tu-berlin.de/~kerstens/ossrtaudio.tar.gz Since I only have one soundcard I rely on users who have several ones (and are interested) for reports on how the driver works in this respect. One more fine thing I'd try to implement is four (and maybe more) channel real-time output using two (ore more) OSS supported devices. Maybe someone could give me some good hints on how/where buffering/input/output of multichannel files is coded, if such a thing is possible at all and if it has been tried/realized before. [steve] -- contact steve-k@gmx.net visit http://w3.to/K-Hornz Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02128; 4 Jul 99 11:09 BST Received: from [139.130.53.38] (helo=toad.ilogic.com.au ident=postfix) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110jDQ-0000Br-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:09:43 +0100 Received: by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix) id 21B7725277; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:09:06 +1000 (EST) Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev-list@toad.ilogic.com.au Received: by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix, from userid 91) id 01B9825278; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:09:05 +1000 (EST) Delivered-To: csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by toad.ilogic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300E125277 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:08:56 +1000 (EST) Received: from gmx.net (130-149-145-84.dialup.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.145.84]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17476; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:07:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377F3366.9B2A3D2@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:11:50 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini , Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , CSound Subject: [Fwd: [CUD] oss/csound] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486" Sender: owner-csound-unix-dev@ilogic.com.au Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Kersten wrote: > Bad news: after having changed my code rather extensively I seem to have > introduced new latency- and other problems. I will look it over in the > next days and until then also put the old sources (without commandline > switches) on my web page. Thanks, Good news: the stuff is fixed and should work again. ;-) -- [ steve-k@gmx.net ] ------------------------------------------------ [ http://w3.to/K-Hornz ] --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <377F2949.AD896DC3@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 11:28:41 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini CC: Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , "J.P. Fitch" Subject: Re: [CUD] oss/csound References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would like to incorporate these patches into the unofficial distribution > as soon as possible, because I feel these are pretty linux-specific and > there's a chance they won't find a way (though if they do, I'll be all the > more happy and I'll gladly remove any addition I'll eventually do). I will > try to do this in the next few days: is this ok with you Steve? Bad news: after having changed my code rather extensively I seem to have introduced new latency- and other problems. I will look it over in the next days and until then also put the old sources (without commandline switches) on my web page. Thanks, [steve] -- [ steve-k@gmx.net ] ------------------------------------------------ [ http://w3.to/K-Hornz ] --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486-- Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02135; 4 Jul 99 11:12 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110jGE-0000Bv-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:12:34 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA03467); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:09:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:09:05 +0100 Received: from root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA04957); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:09:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gmx.net (130-149-145-84.dialup.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.145.84]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17476; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:07:22 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377F3366.9B2A3D2@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:11:50 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini , Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , CSound Subject: [Fwd: [CUD] oss/csound] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Kersten wrote: > Bad news: after having changed my code rather extensively I seem to have > introduced new latency- and other problems. I will look it over in the > next days and until then also put the old sources (without commandline > switches) on my web page. Thanks, Good news: the stuff is fixed and should work again. ;-) -- [ steve-k@gmx.net ] ------------------------------------------------ [ http://w3.to/K-Hornz ] --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <377F2949.AD896DC3@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 11:28:41 +0200 From: Steve Kersten Organization: K-Hornz Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicola Bernardini CC: Csound Linux/Unix Development Group , "J.P. Fitch" Subject: Re: [CUD] oss/csound References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would like to incorporate these patches into the unofficial distribution > as soon as possible, because I feel these are pretty linux-specific and > there's a chance they won't find a way (though if they do, I'll be all the > more happy and I'll gladly remove any addition I'll eventually do). I will > try to do this in the next few days: is this ok with you Steve? Bad news: after having changed my code rather extensively I seem to have introduced new latency- and other problems. I will look it over in the next days and until then also put the old sources (without commandline switches) on my web page. Thanks, [steve] -- [ steve-k@gmx.net ] ------------------------------------------------ [ http://w3.to/K-Hornz ] --------------37B56EA4D76F301E2E755486-- Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa02150; 4 Jul 99 11:25 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 110jSh-0005vn-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:25:27 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA09030); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:23:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:23:20 +0100 Received: from front2.grolier.fr [194.158.96.52] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA17094); Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:20:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from club-internet.fr (ppp-108-121.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.108.121]) by front2.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id MAA11245 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:19:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <377F44B8.BFD669CE@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:25:47 +0100 From: KH Reply-To: karmha@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "csound@maths.ex.ac.uk" Subject: Re:Aifvs Wav Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------502B4CE6D44B057FB0F75FBF" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --------------502B4CE6D44B057FB0F75FBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id LAA17094 No you can read,convert etc=85 almost anything with any OS or platform yo= u like nowadays. Wav, Aiff, Sound Designer, etc... are like standards, so no problem for mac users. Wav can be read with Quicktime, or SoundApp, or etc... and that from a long time ago. KH >I thought (Mac users please correct me) that .wav files cannot be read >on the Mac. I know that both .wav and .aif(f) files can be read under >Windows. --------------502B4CE6D44B057FB0F75FBF Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by exeter.ac.uk id LAA17094 No you can read,convert etc=85 almost anything with any OS or platform you like nowadays. Wav, Aiff, Sound Designer, etc... are like standards, so no problem for mac users. Wav can be read with Quicktime, or SoundApp, or etc... and that from a long time ago. KH >I thought (Mac users please correct me) that .wav files cannot be read >on the Mac. I know that both .wav and .aif(f) files can be read under >Windows. --------------502B4CE6D44B057FB0F75FBF--