Re: #include don't work

Date	1999-01-13 13:23
From	jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk
Subject	Re: #include don't work
	Message written at 12 Jan 1999 21:08:17 +0000 Works for me ==John ffitch >>>>> "gamma" == gamma orion writes: gamma> today I tried to use the syntax gamma> #include :filename: in orchestra and in score but ti don't work. I gamma> tried either the official and the unofficial version 3.49.4. Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa14660; 13 Jan 99 13:28 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100QKY-0002qJ-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:27:30 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (NAA01539); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:36 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:22 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (NAA16976); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:21 GMT Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk id 100QGh-0002pf-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 13:24:28 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: TB-303 like Lowpass-Filter To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message written at 13 Jan 1999 09:20:09 +0000 --- Copy of mail to huber@iamexwi.unibe.ch --- I have spent some time looking at the filter opcodes and i do not think they work sufficiently well. I think the parameters are table numbers of coefficients fpor numerator and denominator of the linear form. ==John ffitch Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa14673; 13 Jan 99 13:30 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100QMB-0002qT-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:29:11 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (NAA13910); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:18 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:05 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (NAA02869); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:24:04 GMT Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk id 100QGQ-0002pZ-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:23:14 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 13:24:11 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: b (ignore first) To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message written at 13 Jan 1999 09:18:36 +0000 --- Copy of mail to g.maldonado@agora.stm.it --- In-reply-to: <369B921F.E7B20132@agora.stm.it> (message from Gabriel Maldonado on Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:19:11 +0100) References: <369B921F.E7B20132@agora.stm.it> This is all explained in my chapter in Richard Boulanger's book, the chapter entitled "Language Extentions" (ch 5 I think) However as you may not have a copy of the book to hand.... b Resets the base clock for textually following events. I use it for repeated sections where I want an overlap with previous version as it does not start a new section. It is textual, and is expanded before sorting. v Sets a scaling on the speed of the clock, again textually until the end of the section or the next v command. I use it for phase music, where there is 1 theme played twice simultaneously at different speeds. As it is textual it is local unlike the t command m Sets a mark in the score which can be referenced by later n directives n repeat a named section (ie from m to end of section). Designed to simplify verse+chorus structures. w is totally different and is used internally related to t directives. There is no reason to understand it as it shoudl not be used. Alternatively, read the cod if you want to know! ==John ffitch Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa14841; 13 Jan 99 14:12 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100R1R-0006qk-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:11:50 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (NAA16738); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:58:06 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:57:50 GMT Received: from lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au [129.78.64.15] by hermes via ESMTP (NAA03625); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:57:43 GMT Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-8-24.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.86]) by lorica.ucc.usyd.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16949 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:57:09 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <369CA5E1.DE7F4CE0@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:55:46 +1100 From: Bob Douglas Reply-To: rdouglas@mail.usyd.edu.au Organization: Sydney Conservatorium X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CSound list Subject: Re : A Mac Cool Edit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any products for PPCMac that have features and performance comparable to Cool Edit ? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Bob Douglas Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15182; 13 Jan 99 15:56 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100RPS-0006rt-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:36:39 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (OAA07016); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:30:17 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:29:59 GMT Received: from [203.36.219.100] by hermes via SMTP (OAA07132); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:28:58 GMT Received: from RossBencina (unverified [203.56.205.7]) by www.webpage.com.au (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:24:03 +1100 Message-ID: <004d01be3f00$2c124fa0$07cd38cb@RossBencina> From: Ross Bencina To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: opcode signature selection mechanism Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:52:35 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, This is a question for the source heads (my link is so slow I can't get at the sources at the moment.)... Does the csound compiler discriminate between different (overloaded) versions of the same opcode and compile with the correct type[subopcode], or is the typing done dynamically by the opcodes themselves? To put it another way: is a multirate opcode acutually a family of functions, one for each different type signature? Just curious. Ross. Received: from xenakis.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15689; 13 Jan 99 17:43 GMT From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: rossb@audiomulch.com CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-reply-to: <004d01be3f00$2c124fa0$07cd38cb@RossBencina> (message from Ross Bencina on Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:52:35 +1030) Subject: Re: opcode signature selection mechanism BCC: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk References: <004d01be3f00$2c124fa0$07cd38cb@RossBencina> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 17:43:49 GMT Sender: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Well teh simple answer is yes and no. In some cases there is descrimination on the result of an opcode, and in some others there is descrimination on the first two arguments. For exampel oscil is really one of oscil_kk oscil_ka oscil_ak oscil_aa depending on answer and first argument. Similarly = is on of 4 versions (special, i, k or a) and so on. I have recently done some recoding in this area so this relationship is more explicit. Is that enough? ==John ff Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15700; 13 Jan 99 17:47 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100UNr-00073S-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:47:11 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA02811); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:44:10 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:43:57 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA07297); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:43:56 GMT Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) id 100UJi-0003GI-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:42:54 +0000 From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: rossb@audiomulch.com CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-reply-to: <004d01be3f00$2c124fa0$07cd38cb@RossBencina> (message from Ross Bencina on Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:52:35 +1030) Subject: Re: opcode signature selection mechanism References: <004d01be3f00$2c124fa0$07cd38cb@RossBencina> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 17:43:49 GMT Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well teh simple answer is yes and no. In some cases there is descrimination on the result of an opcode, and in some others there is descrimination on the first two arguments. For exampel oscil is really one of oscil_kk oscil_ka oscil_ak oscil_aa depending on answer and first argument. Similarly = is on of 4 versions (special, i, k or a) and so on. I have recently done some recoding in this area so this relationship is more explicit. Is that enough? ==John ff Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15820; 13 Jan 99 18:24 GMT Received: from [144.91.3.20] (helo=ella.mills.edu) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100UyA-00075N-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:24:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 1054555 invoked by uid 1964); 13 Jan 1999 10:21:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Reply-To: "Matt J. Ingalls" To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: new mac things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looks like the ftp site is still messed up!!!!!! you can access the files: ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/README ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/Csound3.494.sit.hqx ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/Docs_csRef_&_Examples.sit.hqx ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/source/README_source ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/source/3.494_PPC_src.sit.hqx or through the mac page i put up: (www.concentric.net/~mingalls/software/csound) hopefully they will be up on bath site soon! On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > Matt, > > ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc seems empty from here > Remote system type is UNIX. > Using binary mode to transfer files. > ftp> ccm/csound.ppc > ftp> 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> dir > ftp> 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > # > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> > Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15859; 13 Jan 99 18:37 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100VAd-000762-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:37:35 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA03547); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:24:53 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:24:40 GMT Received: from ella.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by hermes via SMTP (SAA03572); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:24:37 GMT Received: (qmail 1054555 invoked by uid 1964); 13 Jan 1999 10:21:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Reply-To: "Matt J. Ingalls" To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: new mac things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk looks like the ftp site is still messed up!!!!!! you can access the files: ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/README ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/Csound3.494.sit.hqx ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/Docs_csRef_&_Examples.sit.hqx ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/source/README_source ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/source/3.494_PPC_src.sit.hqx or through the mac page i put up: (www.concentric.net/~mingalls/software/csound) hopefully they will be up on bath site soon! On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > Matt, > > ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc seems empty from here > Remote system type is UNIX. > Using binary mode to transfer files. > ftp> ccm/csound.ppc > ftp> 250 CWD command successful. > ftp> dir > ftp> 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'. > # > 226 Transfer complete. > ftp> > Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15932; 13 Jan 99 18:57 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100VTe-00076r-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:57:15 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA11140); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:54:09 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:53:55 GMT Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (SAA06438); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:53:54 GMT Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk id 100VPZ-0003Ka-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:53:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 18:53:58 GMT From: J P Fitch To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Reported error on NT Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thsi was a pair of generic errors, which I have fixed now on this machine. In the light of that, and other changes I think I will distribute a new version tomorrow, assuming I can build all round. ==John Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16310; 13 Jan 99 22:19 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100Ycc-0003UI-00; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:18:42 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA03251); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:18:09 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:17:57 GMT Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA02713); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:17:51 GMT Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.9.1+DND/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA28712 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:17:38 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <17531044@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 13 Jan 99 17:17:38 EST From: "Peter M. Traub" Subject: determining sound file length To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm looking for a way to determine the length of random soundfiles for loop points for loscil. I'm creating a web based piece that uses Perl to search for and download whatever soundfiles it can find on the web. The soundfiles will all be converted to .aiff w/Sox once downloaded. From there, Csound will generate a new piece every 10 minutes or so using the most recently downloaded soundfiles. I would just like the files to loop through their full length. Since the whole piece will eventually be automated, it needs some way of dynamically finding out the soundfile length or number of sample frames, so that Perl can write in the correct loop points for loscil. Since most of the files it downloads will be in different formats and will probably not have loop points, I need some way to work around this. Can sndinfo be used within an orchestra to return a particular value to an i-rate variable (in this case the number of sample frames)? Are there any other ways to work around this? My other option is to run sndinfo seperately and parse the output w/Perl to get the number of sample frames, but this seems like a bigger hassle than it should be. Many thanks in advance. Peter Traub ptraub@dartmouth.edu Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16597; 14 Jan 99 1:34 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100bey-0003fB-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:33:20 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (BAA11545); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:32:37 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:32:25 GMT Received: from vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2] by hermes via ESMTP (BAA01347); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:32:23 GMT Received: from localhost (wfreno@localhost) by vcn.bc.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA27459; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Freno To: Gabriel Maldonado cc: Csound List Subject: Re: Adsyn in Direct Csound 2.5 In-Reply-To: <369C4C71.A5040CC9@agora.stm.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I get the same message with the newest Winsound (the hex figures are different) and the same resulting graininess. On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Gabriel Maldonado wrote: > Have you ever compared the sound quality of DirectCsound with that generated by > hetro/adsyn in canonical version? Maybe this is a bug present in all versions. > > Wayne Freno wrote: > > > > I get this message when using adsyn to play a Hetro analysis file: > > > > file c:/csound/bye8 (15000 bytes) loaded into memory > > ptlap = 007476BC ptlim 00747AB8 > > > > The resulting wav file sounds grainy, although there are > > no warnings, 0 errors and no samples out of range. I kind > > of like that graininess, but would also like the plain > > adsyn file. I just upgraded to Gabriel Moldanado's Direct > > Sound 2.5. My old adsyn files, which compiled ok using > > RTSound 1.7, also show this message, and also sound grainy. > > > > sr = 22050 > > kr = 441 > > ksmps = 50 > > nchnls = 1 > > > > instr 2 > > a2 adsyn 1, 1, 1, "/csound/bye8" > > out a2 > > endin > > > > i2 0 3 > > -- > Gabriel Maldonado > > http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm > end soundbite Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16910; 14 Jan 99 5:47 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100fcg-0007eK-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:47:14 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (FAA18328); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:46:04 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:45:51 GMT Received: from send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90] by hermes via SMTP (FAA11622); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 05:45:50 GMT Message-ID: <19990114054725.13450.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [168.226.49.3] by send102.yahoomail.com; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:47:25 PST Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 21:47:25 -0800 (PST) From: ars acustica Subject: Csound manual in spanish To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi CSounders! Have anybody idea if is there some version of the Csound manual on Spanish (in HTML , PDF, plain text or Windows Help format) ? And some traduction (complete or partial) of the K-2000 synth manual? Thanks in advance, and sorry about my pretentions and poor english! Sebastian Madinaveitia. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa17180; 14 Jan 99 8:48 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100iR4-00041U-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:47:26 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA14912); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:46:13 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:45:59 GMT Received: from renoir.mailpac.pt [194.65.21.2] by hermes via SMTP (IAA07521); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:45:56 GMT Received: by renoir.mailpac.pt (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA13660; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:44:44 GMT Date: 14 Jan 99 08:44 GMT X400-Received: by /ADMD=mailpac/C=pt/; Relayed; 14 Jan 99 08:44 GMT X400-Received: by /PRMD=gtw-ms/ADMD=mailpac/C=pt/; Relayed; 14 Jan 99 08:44 GMT Priority: normal P1-Message-ID: ptmailpacgtw-ms;0916303483/0908205796/1 Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text MIME-version: 1.0 From: Pedro Batista To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Message-ID: <0916303483/1413441790/1*@mailpac.pt> Subject: Re: determining sound file length Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I would just like the files to loop through their full length. Since the whole >piece will eventually be automated, it needs some way of dynamically finding >out the soundfile length or number of sample frames, so that Perl can write in the >correct loop points for loscil You can use gen01 with a size of 0, which deferres memory allocation; then in the orc you can use tableng/itableng to find out the samples' sizes. Btw, a small parentesis: the table generated this way will be readable by loscil, but not by conventional ugens, like table. Why is that? shouldnt table (at least) work with non-power-of-2 tables? The solution is to allocate a power-of-two size that is biger than the sample length, but this forces one to know the sample length in advance. Or else read the table with loscil and then with tablewa write it to another (big) power-of-2 table which can then be read by any table access ugen. pedro Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa17253; 14 Jan 99 9:25 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100j1C-00043b-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:24:46 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (JAA06696); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:22:29 GMT Received: from sunny.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:22:16 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by sunny via ESMTP (JAA12889); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:22:19 GMT Received: from agora.stm.it (ppp02-03.dial-access.stm.it [195.62.37.67]) by agora.stm.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14906; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:12:38 +0100 (ITA) Message-ID: <369DB44B.3302DFD3@agora.stm.it> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:09:31 +0100 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter M. Traub" CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: determining sound file length References: <17531044@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In DirectCsound there is ftlen2(x) and nsamp(x) function which returns the samples effectively loaded from a wavefile. This can be useful to set parameters for loop points with loscil (or my loscil2). Another soultion is to use diskin opcode, which can play a soundfile looping start to end. I hope this will help you Gabriel Peter M. Traub wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a way to determine the length of random soundfiles for loop points for loscil. I'm creating a web based piece that uses Perl to search for and download whatever soundfiles it can find on the web. The soundfiles will all be converted to .aiff w/Sox once downloaded. From there, Csound will generate a new piece every 10 minutes or so using the most recently downloaded soundfiles. I would just like the files to loop through their full length. Since the whole piece will eventually be automated, it needs some way of dynamically finding out the soundfile length or number of sample frames, so that Perl can write in the correct loop points for loscil. Since most of the files it downloads will be in different formats and will probably not have loop points, I need some way to work around this. Can sndinfo be used within an orchestra to return a particular value to an i-rate variable (in this case the number of sample frames)? Are there any other ways to work around this! ? My > other option is to run sndinfo seperately and parse the output w/Perl to get the number of sample frames, but this seems like a bigger hassle than it should be. Many thanks in advance. > > Peter Traub > > ptraub@dartmouth.edu -- Gabriel Maldonado http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa17263; 14 Jan 99 9:31 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk id 100j6a-00043u-00; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:30:20 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (JAA03638); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:29:13 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:29:00 GMT Received: from root@mail.sci.fi [195.74.0.53] (may be forged) by hermes via ESMTP (JAA17975); Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:28:59 GMT Received: from sci.fi (MCCCXXX.dyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.4.130]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18898 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:28:28 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <369DB85A.A17DDA63@sci.fi> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:26:50 +0200 From: Matti Koskinen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound Subject: orcs and scores Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello all i've extracted now all the orc+scores from Rasmus' zip-file. but before i go any further, is it ok to put your orc in the web? also putting the mail clarifying the orc? thanks -matti mjkoskin@sci.fi