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Date1999-08-18 14:23
FromJens Kilian
SubjectCsound for BeOS
Because several people have recently asked about the status of my BeOS port,
I updated to Csound 3.57 and sent the last remaining changes to John F. for
integration.  It may take a while for him to release them, so I've made
the diffs to the canonical sources available on my home page:

        http://www.bawue.de/~jjk/archive/Csound-3.57.diffs

You will not be able to compile the file "winBe.c", as it requires some more
code which isn't *quite* ready yet; but I hope to get that out Real Soon Now.
For now, just change one line in "makefile.be":

WINSRC =      winBe.c

to

WINSRC =      #winBe.c

Have fun,

        Jens.

PS: You'll need "patch" to apply the diffs to the canonical sources; a BeOS
    version is available at ftp://ftp.ninemoons.com/pub/geekgadgets (along
    with lots of other stuff).

PPS: No real-time audio yet, sorry.
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Look here:
	
	http://www.uniqueway.co.uk/everything/cdfs.html

They have players.  Hope it is the right cdfs.  Apparently
it started in Cambridge.

Toby



Jeffrey John Hall wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
>           I have an audio CD from a colleague in Europe which is full,
>      but will not play on any CD player or computer that I have tried,
>      (9 in all). When I try to play it on a computer, the system
>      does not recognize that there is a disk in the drive. The
>      message is: "No Disk in Drive".
>           When I check properties I see that the format  is called:
>      CDFS.
>           Just to try to clear up the "mystery", I wanted to ask the
>      list whether anyone knew what might be the source of the problem.
>                                Luck to All,
>                                                Jeff Hall


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I hope this is roughly on-topic, but does anyone know if the SBLive card can
be fed quad sound from csound ie. can you address the four speaker channels
using a quad output from csound?



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>Hi,
>
>Does anybody know of a Csound .orc to C converter (like there is SFront for
>SAOL orchestras), either existing or in the works ?

Csound .orc -> vst z.lug +?
vst z.lug  <-  Csound .orc

the<=3D>works



>.........................................................................
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> Latte affektat!on



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y =3D s!n(2=BCt)s!n(n2=BCt + d=BC)
x =3D s!n[(a\c)2=BCt + b=BC]
a\c =3D 2; b =3D o; n =3D 2;

harmon!k ouch

y =3D s!n(2=BCt)s!n(n2=BCt + d=BC)
y =3D s!n [n=BC s!n (2=BCt)]
a\c =3D 2; b =3D 1\4; n =3D 1;

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I have a replication of cscore written in perl as well
should you be interested.  

	http://tobiah.rcsreg.com/pub/perlscore/


Paul Winkler wrote:
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> Pscore (my Csound::Pscore.pm perl module for generating/modifying
> scores) is now at version 0.0.3.


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I got the definitive answer about that from their qualified
tech support staff:

	"Oh...  I don't know about *that*...

It is obvious to me that it can be done, because Half-life and
other games do it.  It is just a matter of finding a player that
can do it with quad files.  I can't find one.

richard bowers wrote:
> 
> I hope this is roughly on-topic, but does anyone know if the SBLive card can
> be fed quad sound from csound ie. can you address the four speaker channels
> using a quad output from csound?


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Tobiah wrote:
> 
> I have a replication of cscore written in perl as well
> should you be interested.
> 
>         http://tobiah.rcsreg.com/pub/perlscore/

List of features looks pretty cool. It occurs to me that anyone really
wanting to do anything with Pscore might benefit from re-writing it to
make use of perlscore, since there's some duplication of basic
functionality. Personally, anything I do in this direction in the future
is more likely to by in Python.

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No, it has become clear from several sources that this is not possible.
The SB Live is basically a stereo card, but which will create a surround
output from a stereo input using on-board 3D audio stuff.


FWIW, I have recently been told about the VideoLogic 'SonicVortex 2'
card, which is very cheap, but which is apparently a true quad card, and
can play a quad WAVE file. it does report itself as one four-channel
device.



Richard Dobson

  
richard bowers wrote:
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> I hope this is roughly on-topic, but does anyone know if the SBLive card can
> be fed quad sound from csound ie. can you address the four speaker channels
> using a quad output from csound?

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The SB live is designed to generate surround audio from a mono or stereo
source, which is what the games people want. The fact that you get a
quad ~output~ does not necessarily mean you can give it a quad ~input~.

Any card which provides a single quad WAVE device can be used by Csound
to play a quad file.

The free Multi-Channel Toolkit (Win32 console) available from the CDP
website includes a program 'playsfx' which will report the number of
channels supported by each WAVE device on the system. Where N channels
are supported by a device, playsfx can play an N-channel file.

More to the point, if a device supports a quad file, you can play the
file using Media Player - you don't need any third-party application.

Unfortunately, some cards (where the driver-writers were lazy) will
acccept a quad file even when they shouldn't - it may come out at half
speed, or worse.

Richard Dobson


Tobiah wrote:
> 
> I got the definitive answer about that from their qualified
> tech support staff:
> 
>         "Oh...  I don't know about *that*...
> 
> It is obvious to me that it can be done, because Half-life and
> other games do it.  It is just a matter of finding a player that
> can do it with quad files.  I can't find one.
> 
> richard bowers wrote:
> >
> > I hope this is roughly on-topic, but does anyone know if the SBLive card can
> > be fed quad sound from csound ie. can you address the four speaker channels
> > using a quad output from csound?

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can someone tell me the merits of alsa in relation to oss for linux?  i
have oss working fine, but i am considering doing a switch to alsa. 
will alsa work with progs that need oss?

:P


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It is surely possible, but not implemented at present time.

gab

richard bowers wrote:
> 
> I hope this is roughly on-topic, but does anyone know if the SBLive card can
> be fed quad sound from csound ie. can you address the four speaker channels
> using a quad output from csound?



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la version para macintosh ppc csound 3.55 no se puede interrumpir, solo se
puede parar con coommand + alt + esc

=BF alguien sabe como evitarlo ?
=BF o si es alguna novedad no documentada ?

**** english ****


           the version for Macintosh ppc csound 3.55 cannot be interrupted,
single can be
           stopped with coommand + alt + esc

           somebody knows like avoiding it? or if it is some new developmen=
t
           nondocumented?


thanks. guillermo lorenzo


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A while back I read of an Honnor 4 chanel card, but I can't find one or specs.



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Hi all,

I was thinking about algorithmic composition within csound,
i.e. not generating a score file that represents the composition
but having a composer instrument in the orchestra that generates
the composition completely with csound operators and sends events
to sound generating instruments in the same orchestra in realtime.

I first thought the schedwhen operator might do that job, but I
found that you can only generate one event per operator, not an
arbitrary number of events. (Am I right, or did I miss something?)

Anyway, I found a solution that seems very simple and elegant
to me. Here is the header from my sample algocomp.csd:

;===========================================================================
; ALGOCOMP.CSD
; A sample instrument for realtime algorithmic composition in CSound
; Written by Peter Neubaecker 
;---------------------------------------------------------------------------
;
; The purpose of this instrument is to generate algorithmic compositions
; by Csound directly. There is one event-generating instrument and one
; or more sound-generating instruments. There are multiple instances of the
; sound-generating instruments allocated and indexed. The number of instances
; correponds to the intended polyphony - but they can be allocated generously
; as an inactive instance is very inexpensive in time. The event-generating
; instrument knows these instances by index and communicates with them over
; global table space. Each time the event-generating instrument assigns a new
; duration to an instance, that instance initialises itself, reads its
; individual parameters from the communication table, then runs and becomes
; inactive after the given duration.
; In this example, the event-generating instrument only writes initialisation
; values for each sound-generating instance that are used by that instruments
; like usual p-fields. But the event-generating instrument could also update  
; the individal parameters continuously.
;
;---------------------------------------------------------------------------

You can get algocomp.csd from:
http://www.harmonik.de/femc/femcdown.html
This page is in german, but you will find the file...

Any comments are welcome!
Best greetings   -   Peter