| f1f0@m9ndfukc.com wrote:
>
> >The trick is to generate fractal noise....
>
> l!arz paradocz
> dze folou!ng zentensz = leadz 2 !nf!n!t regress
> proof dzat truth != def!nabl
I should have said quasi-fractal.
No infinite regress exists for Liar's paradox (or Grelling's paradox) because
they are both resolved by distinguishing between object language and metalanguage.
bd
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Another one you might try is WCShell. Sort of an IDE for Csound. Very =
handy.
Get it here:
http://www.axnet.it/contempo/italiano/contemporanea/news/virtuale.html
-David.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Batov [mailto:batov@glasnet.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:58 AM
> To: craig routt; csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
> Subject: Re:=20
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
> I'm not sure but may be there is a link to it on
> http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/csound/frontpage.html
>=20
> Word 6 e.t.c. uses special invisible (!) symbols and this is=20
> a source of
> problems.
> But having a little of dexterity it is possible to use=20
> Win95's Wordpad or
> Notepad. Highly recommended Programmer's File Editor
> (http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/).
>=20
> Regards,
> Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru
> ----------
> > =CE=F2: craig routt
> > =CA=EE=EC=F3: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
> > =D2=E5=EC=E0:=20
> > =C4=E0=F2=E0: 15 =E0=EF=F0=E5=EB=FF 1999 =E3. 8:52
> >=20
> > hi every one. how is your day?
> >=20
> > it is raining like a big monster here in omaha nebr.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > I saw an editor for csound called csedit which ran
> >=20
> > on windows/ibm. can anyone tell me where i saw that
> >=20
> > unit . I seem to have misplaced it and can't find
> >=20
> > my trail back to it again.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > also why won't WORD6 edit michalsons .orc on the=20
> >=20
> > windows platform? I also tried the resident
> >=20
> > editor in most ibm , but it did not work either.
> >=20
> > the only one I found to work was csedit!
> >=20
> > thank you
> >=20
> > craig-routt@usa.net
> >=20
> > =
____________________________________________________________________
> > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at=20
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RE:
Another one you might try is WCShell. Sort of an IDE =
for Csound. Very handy.
Get it here: http://www.axnet.it/contempo/italiano/contemporanea/ne=
ws/virtuale.html
-David.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Batov [mailto:batov@glasnet.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:58 AM
> To: craig routt; csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
> Subject: Re:
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm not sure but may be there is a link to it =
on
> http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/csound/frontpage.html<=
/A>
>
> Word 6 e.t.c. uses special invisible (!) =
symbols and this is
> a source of
> problems.
> But having a little of dexterity it is possible =
to use
> Win95's Wordpad or
> Notepad. Highly recommended Programmer's File =
Editor
> (http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/).
>
> Regards,
> Sergey Batov =
batov@glasnet.ru
> ----------
> > =CE=F2: craig routt =
<craig-routt@usa.net>
> > =CA=EE=EC=F3: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk
> > =D2=E5=EC=E0:
> > =C4=E0=F2=E0: 15 =E0=EF=F0=E5=EB=FF 1999 =
=E3. 8:52
> >
> > hi every one. how is your day?
> >
> > it is raining like a big monster here in =
omaha nebr.
> >
> >
> >
> > I saw an editor for csound called csedit =
which ran
> >
> > on windows/ibm. can anyone tell me where i =
saw that
> >
> > unit . I seem to have misplaced it =
and can't find
> >
> > my trail back to it again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > also why won't WORD6 edit michalsons .orc =
on the
> >
> > windows platform? I also tried the =
resident
> >
> > editor in most ibm , but it did not work =
either.
> >
> > the only one I found to work was =
csedit!
> >
> > thank you
> >
> > craig-routt@usa.net
> >
> > =
____________________________________________________________________
> > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at =
http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1
>
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Hello All,
I know very little about wave formats and so am
puzzled by the fact that my CDs sometimes will not
be recognized by some CD players. This AM one failed to
be recognized in a friend's player, yet when I checked
the disk on Fischer, Sony, and JVC, sytems at a local
emporium, the CD played back fine. Consequently, I'm a
little befuddled. (I burn the CDs with a Windows.PCM.wav
format.)
On another topic I wanted to inquire about the pitch
change parameter of diskin. I did succeed in getting it
to play the example through a string of 12 pitch classes
with accepteble results, but when I call it into a piece
I get it 2 octaves below, and find it tricky to get on
pitch.
I've found some kludgey ways around the problem but suspect
that I've missed something that's in the black box of
diskin. It seems reasonable to use linear octave notation
but I don't know what diskin expects; the manual says
sig*2 for ocatve and sig*.5 for lower oct. etc. buuuuut.
Anyway, Luck to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff Hall
(a.k.a., the troglodyte)
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From: Grant Covell
To: 'Jeffrey John Hall' , csound
Subject: RE: CD formats and does diskin take linear octave input
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The Adaptec folks sponsor some excellent lists on CDRs, CRRWs, etc. You
might find it is a combination of the media, the driver of the writer, etc.
Check out:
List archives: http://listserv.adaptec.com
Instructions on how to use the list:
http://www.adaptec.com/support/cdrlist/instructions.html
Adaptec Web site: http://cdr.adaptec.com
Grant.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey John Hall [mailto:jjhall@erols.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 3:37 PM
> To: csound
> Subject: CD formats and does diskin take linear octave input
>
>
> Hello All,
> I know very little about wave formats and so am
> puzzled by the fact that my CDs sometimes will not
> be recognized by some CD players. This AM one failed to
> be recognized in a friend's player, yet when I checked
> the disk on Fischer, Sony, and JVC, sytems at a local
> emporium, the CD played back fine. Consequently, I'm a
> little befuddled. (I burn the CDs with a Windows.PCM.wav
> format.)
> On another topic I wanted to inquire about the pitch
> change parameter of diskin. I did succeed in getting it
> to play the example through a string of 12 pitch classes
> with accepteble results, but when I call it into a piece
> I get it 2 octaves below, and find it tricky to get on
> pitch.
> I've found some kludgey ways around the problem
> but suspect
> that I've missed something that's in the black
> box of
> diskin. It seems reasonable to use linear
> octave notation
> but I don't know what diskin expects; the manual says
> sig*2 for ocatve and sig*.5 for lower oct. etc. buuuuut.
> Anyway, Luck to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Jeff Hall
> (a.k.a., the troglodyte)
>
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> But is there also a version 3.53 for PPC ?
3.51 can be found at
ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/CsoundPPC3.51.sit.hqx
or a little web page i have up for csoundppc:
www.concentric.net/~Mingalls/software/csound
3.53beta is compiled - if you can wait a week while Dr. Boulanger bangs on
it for a while then get that (same place, same price)
NOTE: UPGRADES TO 3.53 BY REGISTERED USERS ARE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-matt
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> change parameter of diskin. I did succeed in getting it
> but I don't know what diskin expects; the manual says
> sig*2 for ocatve and sig*.5 for lower oct. etc. buuuuut.
yea, its a pitch ratio-linear - so if you keep increasing by integers
(2,3,4,5,etc..) you will transpose up the harmonic series.
you'll have to calculate the pitch ratio accordingly if you are thinking
inpitch class terms..
-matt
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Jeffrey John Hall wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> I know very little about wave formats and so am
> puzzled by the fact that my CDs sometimes will not
> be recognized by some CD players. This AM one failed to
> be recognized in a friend's player, yet when I checked
> the disk on Fischer, Sony, and JVC, sytems at a local
> emporium, the CD played back fine. Consequently, I'm a
> little befuddled. (I burn the CDs with a Windows.PCM.wav
> format.)
Your friend's CD player might be old. As CD players get old and tired,
they get fussy, and don't read CD's that newer CD players might. My
Denon CD changer just can't play some CD's, and other CD's it has
problems switching tracks. Of course, it can't deal with scratched CD's
at all. See Big Black's CD, "The Rich Man's 8 Track," for more compact
disk goodies.
Sean Costello
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From: Anders Andersson
To: The CSound mailinglist
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_*Hello CSounders!*_
It's been quite a while now since I read the postings on this list,
depending on a minor harddisk-crash, that destroyed my mail and
network programs, and all my mails.. :(.
But now I'm up and running again, and I have been quite productive. =)
I have managed to compile the latest version of CSound for the Amiga,
and that without any huge errors or modifications to the source.
I'm very eager to see an official Amiga-dist of CSound in the future,
as I now believe I'm capable of handling that project.
-----------------
But there are some things that I could need a bit help with before I
start planning on a clean Amiga dist. I need to write graphic routines
for AmigaOS, but I don't really know how CSound calls the different
window routines. I have managed to get a whole lot of information
by reading /winX11.c/ and /winbor.c/ etc etc, but there are still some
things I don't really get..
Are there any documentation on how to write graphic routines for CSound,
or do I have to look at the different window-handlers that's already
implemented?
-----------------
I have another problem with the Amiga-version, that has to do with the
compiler I currently use /(gcc)/.
It seems that the function "/tell()/" isn't imlemented, so all the opcodes
that use external samples don't work! =(.
Strange thing though.. All the other Level 1 functions are implemented..
Are there any major reason to use Level 1 files? Or could they be rewritten
to use Level 2 (well, it's ANSI-C).
I assume all the file-handling routines are very deep in CSound, and would
be a *huge* pain to change, but if it's possible..
-----------------
The last but not least question:
Where can I find the absolute latest and recently updated
CSound documentation?
I've only found the online version, covering CSound V3.47.
I'd be VERY grateful for all the help I can get!
/Anders "Pipe" Andersson, pipe@mensa.se
(btw, If you use Amiga and have axx to a 030/8+PAL amiga,
download the 40k intro "/Grid/" from the party ms2k-1
in germany and listen to my nice rendered sounds.. =)
/ps./
/Sorry for my English.. I feel that this wasn't my most creative/
/day for typing in a strange foreign language! =)/
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Subject: Re: Newest PPC Version of csound ?
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>> But is there also a version 3.53 for PPC ?
>
>3.51 can be found at
>ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/CsoundPPC3.51.sit.hqx
>
>or a little web page i have up for csoundppc:
>www.concentric.net/~Mingalls/software/csound
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>3.53beta is compiled - if you can wait a week while Dr. Boulanger bangs on
>it for a while then get that (same place, same price)
>
>NOTE: UPGRADES TO 3.53 BY REGISTERED USERS ARE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>-matt
This is great matt, how about key disks? PACE will be a good choice (Max
users are really happy with it ;-)
james
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Hi,
I have an elementary question (as usual).
Can anybody explain logic and principles of using 'ihold'.
I'm trying to understand how does the famous Jeff Harrington's algorithms
for DX7 work. What is the sense of 'ihold' there? I experimented with
'ihold' and simplest
orc+sco but still have no clear understanding about its usage.
Thanks in advance.
Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru |