| Hi !
I'm new at csound list, and I'm also relatively inexperienced in csound.
My question is:
How to get sounds with longer release than midi note duration without
to aplly 'sub'-scores like
i1.1 ...
i1.2 ...
i1.3 ... or
without to change the p3 parameter in the score file?
Next question is:
How can I generate a modulation source ( e.g. a sine lfo) which
is unattached by k-rate inits ?
Thanks , Ronald
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Hello, dear fellows.
I got a friend which is looking for litterature on
timestretching/varispeed algorithm implementations. Does anyone knows of
some good links ?
Thanks,
Marc.
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Look in to the reinit opcode, that lets you start a note over in
the middle.
Mike Berry
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If you use linenr, you can extend a midi triggered note by a
release length.
If you want an instrument independent LFO that always keeps phase,
put it in different instrument and write the value to a global variable.
Then have this instrument triggered for the entire length of your score.
Mike Berry
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>Hi !
>
>I'm new at csound list, and I'm also relatively inexperienced in csound.
>My question is:
>How to get sounds with longer release than midi note duration without
>to aplly 'sub'-scores like
>i1.1 ...
>i1.2 ...
>i1.3 ... or
>without to change the p3 parameter in the score file?
>
>Next question is:
>How can I generate a modulation source ( e.g. a sine lfo) which
>is unattached by k-rate inits ?
>
>
>Thanks , Ronald
>
>--
>=====================================
>
>name: Ronald Wechselberger
>
>e-Mail: wechselberger@fokus.gmd.de
> wechselb@cs.tu-berlin.de
>
>
You can use ihold and turnoff, as follows:
instr 1
ifinal = 1.5 ;duration of final decay
ihold ;turn on instr indefinitely
. ;the code generating your signal here
.
.
kgate linseg 1,p3,1,ifinal,0 ;ramp off after p3 secs
out asignal*kgate
;here, you can either test kgate, as follows:
; if (kgate > 0) kgoto end
;or use a timout for a specific duration, as follows:
timout 0,p3+ifinal,end ;skip to end for p3+ifinal secs
;here we turn off the instr when the final decay is done
turnoff
end:
endin
Note that if you are using a score, you will need to use an f0 card to
extend the total duration to include the final decay, e.g.:
i01 0 1 ...
i01 1 1 ...
f0 3.5 ;last note ends at time 2, extend 1.5 secs for final decay
e
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Csounders:
Many of you might have noticed that using the specwp option in the pvoc
unit generator produced 0 amplitude if ispecwp was non-zero. In other
words, it didn't work!
I believe that I have fixed this and hopefully in the next release this
option will be available. The few tests I've done after fixing it seem
to actually work to make pitch shifted sounds sound better across a larger
range.
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hey,
i spent the weekend looking at Gabriel's "soundin2" and beefing up my
'soundinew' opcode. it seemed (and i think gabriel agrees) that
'soundinew' (i'm open to a name change) is a little more robust. it has
compiled on PPC and PC - If people want to try it out on other platforms
i would be very grateful.
"soundinew" plays a file from disk, shifting the pitch with interpolation,
backwards, and 'wraparound' capabilities. All possible number of channels
and sound format have been implemented.
you can get the files (MillsUGENS.C, MillsUGENS.h, README) at:
ftp://www.mills.edu/submisssions/matt
(you can get the entry.c file if you want. the README has what you
need to add to your entry.c so you dont have to replace it)
(sorry, the PPC users will have to wait a week or two till we re-assemble
the code for the new version)
thanks,
matt
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I saw the posting for new soundin/soundin2. I've looked through the
manual on adding your own Cmodules to Csound, but can't make heads or
tails out of how to actually implement this. Can anyone point me in the
right direction to go? Your time is appreciated in advance.
thankyou
matt comeione
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Subject: Re: Question: Envelopes
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hello r.
thanks for your response. sorry but these questions do have a way of
multiplying themselves.
cool suggestion. first, what i really wanted to ask, but didn't clearly:
am trying to find most intuitive (hah) method of working with long, complex
envelopes consisting of, if you will excuse my french, untold stages of
attack, decay, sustain, and, eventually, release, in unlimited
combinations, and with unlimited numbers of different values that i assign,
one at a time. certainly not too much of a non-programmer to ask of csound
now is it? nope this is not a DW8000 and i'm not in Kansas. any more.
although, this goal can evidently be achieved by creating numerous
instruments, and commanding each to begin where the previous one left off,
with perhaps a few ties thrown in, i seek a method of giving birth to this
huge undulating desert worm with a single instrument. now that's intuitive.
for my purposes anyway.
any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
oh, and now for that other question you answered. i get this:
error: insufficient required arguments, line 9:
reinit
1 syntax er
what to do?
yours,
tolve
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>>ok the following principal works fine for creating additional (*unlimited*)
>stages of envelopes with linen on ppc:
>>
>>sr=48000
>>kr=4800
>>ksmps=10
>>nchnls=1
>>
>>instr 1
>>k1 linen 20000,5,p3,5
>>asig oscil k1,cpspch(p5),p4
>>out asig
>>endin
>>
>>f1 0 8192 10 1
>>i1 0 10 1 6
>>i1 10 10 1 6
>>e
>>
>>But isn't there a way I can accomplish the same within orc file. something
>like:
>>instr 1
>>k1 linen 20000,5,p3,5 linen 20000,5,p3,5
>>asig oscil k1,cpspch(p5),p4
>>out asig
>>endin
>>
>>f1 0 8192 10 1
>>i1 0 20 1 6
>>e
>>
>>Except of course, a way that works?
>>
>>
>>Incidentally, many thanks to the gentleman that steered me to the soundhack
>list. Did subscribe but inadvertantly dumped your address before thank you.
>>
>>
>>yours,
>>
>>tolve
>>
>>
>>
>
>Use this:
>
>instr 1
>idur = p3/2
>start: timout 0,idur,continue
> reinit
>continue:
>k1 linen 20000,5,idur,5
> rireturn
>asig oscil k1,cpspch(p5),p4
>out asig
>endin
>
>f1 0 8192 10 1
>i1 0 20 1 6
>e
>
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>Director, Electronic Music Studios
>School of Music
>The University of Texas at Austin
>Austin, TX 78712
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tolve wrote:
> am trying to find most intuitive (hah) method of working with long, complex
> envelopes consisting of, if you will excuse my french, untold stages of
> attack, decay, sustain, and, eventually, release, in unlimited
> combinations,
Okay, this sounds like linseg or expseg. Csound doesn't have the
notion of "sustain" because it has known note lengths rather than a
keyboard-gate signal. For linear ADSR, for example, you can do:
kenv linseg 0, iatk, 1, idcy, isus, idur-(iatk+idcy+irel), isus, irel, 0
(Please forgive possible syntax errors; my Csound is rusty.)
> and with unlimited numbers of different values that i assign,
> one at a time.
But now I'm not so sure that I know what you want. What do you
mean by "one at a time"?
> nope this is not a DW8000 and i'm not in Kansas. any more.
One possible gotcha: Csound's exponential envelopes are not (except
when approaching zero) what the synth world calls "exponential envelopes".
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Mike Berry wrote:
>
> If you use linenr, you can extend a midi triggered note by a
> release length.
> If you want an instrument independent LFO that always keeps phase,
> put it in different instrument and write the value to a global variable.
> Then have this instrument triggered for the entire length of your score.
Linenr has a bug: it does not operate correctly with normal i opcode in
score. It operates well only with midi.
bye
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:14:16 +0100
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From: Andreas Pieper
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Hi listmaster,
could you please sort this out for me?
thanks,
A
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