| Alessandro Andreuccetti wrote:
>
> how can i make a score just a bit more complicated
> I think about a translator from sheets music to csound score.
Many, or most, people who use Csound to actually make any music seem to
(a) run it live and play from midi (which obviously limits the
complexity of sounds), or
(b) use som kind of score generation program.
The latter are rather nicely covered in the latest issue
of the Csound EZine. At
http://www.werewolf.net/~hljmm/Ezine/
Select "Features" in the left bar, then the first topic is
"Score generation".
Good luck,
re
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Alessandro Andreuccetti wrote:
> I think at a translator from sheets music to csound score. There is
> something like it in the cyberspace?
Until recently you could use Scot, but I believe it has now been deleted
from the tree. Perhaps you could use an earlier version of Csound ?
== Dave Phillips
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Rosegarden can take music in standard Western notation and convert to Csound
score notation. That is how I realised my small piano prelude, and some other
piano things I occasionally attempt to write. Only runs on Unix though.
Personally I cannot see what is wrong with C as a score generator.
Scott sources sare still around of course.
==John
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>but scanning first a symphony by B and then giving it to
>csound would be rather interesting.
0+1. data = korekt. humanz = fasc!znat!ng ma!z f!kt!on
csound = luvl! !f p!pd through czound elsz !t
= 1 notalg!a ma!z - warum 1 !nf!n!t! ov ax!omz +?
LGI2P:
Laboratoire de Genie Informatique et d'Ingenierie
de Production - tranzlat!ng sources !n2 zk ore +?
paz vra!ment. tranzlat!ng zk orez !n2 source
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Hello, i heard about SCOT, a score traslator but i found only the c =
source files. I haven't installed the c compiler thus i cannot get the =
executable.
There is anyone who can send me the scot.exe for pc ibm?
thanx.
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i found only the c source files. I haven't installed the c compiler thus =
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cannot get the executable.
There is =
anyone who can send=20
me the scot.exe for pc ibm?
thanx.
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Correct translation????:
1. data correct. humans equal fascinating ( undeciferable) fiction
csound = love it if piped thru csound else it
= one not alg ( undeciferable ) warm 1 infinity of axioms plus
-----cut herez:---
thats the best way Iz can read it...
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J P Fitch wrote:
> Rosegarden can take music in standard Western notation and convert to Csound
> score notation. That is how I realised my small piano prelude, and some other
> piano things I occasionally attempt to write. Only runs on Unix though.
How would Rosegarden cope with scores reflecting a high degree of notational
complexity, eg. works by Brian Ferneyhough or James Dillon. Is it capable of
rendering that level of detail into a Csound score file ?
> Personally I cannot see what is wrong with C as a score generator.
> Scott sources sare still around of course.
Can you elaborate on how you use C as a score generator ? For example, are you
referring to a variety of high-level algorithmic program that happens to be
written in C, or something that depends upon, and even exhibits, unique
characteristics of the C language as part of the score generation process.
Bob Douglas
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Seeing as we're in a translation mood (although as one person once said,
it easier to go English -> m9ndfukc than the other way...) Maybe this
is one AltaVista could add to their services?
f1f0@m9ndfukc.com wrote:
> 0+1.
True
> data = korekt.
Data is correct
> humanz = fasc!znat!ng ma!z f!kt!on
Humans are fascinating but fiction
> csound = luvl! !f p!pd through czound elsz !t
Csound is lovely if piped through csound otherwise it
> = 1 notalg!a ma!z - warum 1 !nf!n!t! ov ax!omz +?
is a (nothing?) but - why an infinity of axioms (commands?) ?
> LGI2P:
> Laboratoire de Genie Informatique et d'Ingenierie
> de Production - tranzlat!ng sources !n2 zk ore +?
- translating sources into score?
> paz vra!ment. tranzlat!ng zk orez !n2 source
Not really. Translating scores into source.
Took about 10 minutes - was it worthwhile I wonder? Who cares, I'm
revising ;)
Bye!
Ben.
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>Correct translation????:
komz! komsa
>-----cut herez:---
>thats the best way Iz can read it...
>>Disclaimer: While I am an NASA contractor, all opinions expressed are my own,
>> and do not reflect the position of NASA, NETCOM, or Zippy the Pinhead.
>>============================================================================
claimer: do dze! re flekt dze poz!t!on ov l!ngu!zt george z!pf +?
mein kampf ist das leben
nicht zu machen
nicht zu lieben
nicht zu leben
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Nostalgia is the ability to get sad that something no longer
is as it once never was (as it once never became - ?)
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> >Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so
> >ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel
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>>Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so
>>ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel
<=>
alle gegen alle
for (int i = 0; i == 0; ++i) { while (i > 0) { i++; !f (i > 0) i = 0; else
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Cscore is a library that you link with to write your own score generator in
C.
Here are some approaches to writing Csound pieces:
1. Write a score generating function in C and add it to a Cscore
application.
2. Write a score generating program in any language, and print out a Csound
score to a text file. This is easiest and works fine.
3. Use JCsound or AXCsound and embed them into your score generating
program. This is best if (a) you are a moderately experienced programmer and
(b) you need to write your own score generating algorithms, as it gives you
the ability to edit the orc and sco, run more than one score in a row
without reloading the program, and so on.
4. Use one of the score generating frameworks described in Mikelson's latest
ezine. Many of these are designed to do (2) or (3) above.
5. Use notation software to create a midifile. Then use (3) or (4) above or
just use a Csound orc designed to work with -F midifile.
6. Use notation software to create a midifile, then use midi2cs to translate
it to a Csound score.
I'm sure there are more ways...
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Douglas
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>J P Fitch wrote:
>
>> Rosegarden can take music in standard Western notation and convert to
Csound
>> score notation. That is how I realised my small piano prelude, and some
other
>> piano things I occasionally attempt to write. Only runs on Unix though.
>
>How would Rosegarden cope with scores reflecting a high degree of
notational
>complexity, eg. works by Brian Ferneyhough or James Dillon. Is it capable
of
>rendering that level of detail into a Csound score file ?
>
>> Personally I cannot see what is wrong with C as a score generator.
>> Scott sources sare still around of course.
>
>Can you elaborate on how you use C as a score generator ? For example, are
you
>referring to a variety of high-level algorithmic program that happens to be
>written in C, or something that depends upon, and even exhibits, unique
>characteristics of the C language as part of the score generation process.
>
>Bob Douglas
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Many thanks for such a comprehensive and coherent answer to my question,
Michael! I found the score generating article you referred to in the Spring
Csound Ezine. It's excellent.
Bob Douglas
Michael Gogins wrote:
>
> Cscore is a library that you link with to write your own score generator in
> C.
>
> Here are some approaches to writing Csound pieces:
>
> 1. Write a score generating function in C and add it to a Cscore
> application.
>
> 2. Write a score generating program in any language, and print out a Csound
> score to a text file. This is easiest and works fine.
>
> 3. Use JCsound or AXCsound and embed them into your score generating
> program. This is best if (a) you are a moderately experienced programmer and
> (b) you need to write your own score generating algorithms, as it gives you
> the ability to edit the orc and sco, run more than one score in a row
> without reloading the program, and so on.
>
> 4. Use one of the score generating frameworks described in Mikelson's latest
> ezine. Many of these are designed to do (2) or (3) above.
>
> 5. Use notation software to create a midifile. Then use (3) or (4) above or
> just use a Csound orc designed to work with -F midifile.
>
> 6. Use notation software to create a midifile, then use midi2cs to translate
> it to a Csound score.
>
> I'm sure there are more ways...
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Csound score can't handle more than a string argument per line.
It is not a bug,
it is a limit of present Csound-structure engine.
--
Gabriel Maldonado
http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm
Roger Klaveness wrote:
>
> If one is using more than one string argument it seems like csound get confused
> Here is an example
> p4 is a name for a wavefile
> p5 is a name for a convolution analysis file
> it looks like csound only can take one string argument and then uses the last one
> it tries to read the convolvefile as a wavefile and then complains that it haven't got a header
>
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Yes only one string can be used per score event as there is only one
place in which it can be stored. I would suggest using strset in this
case
==John ffitch |