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HKP Composer-cecilia

Date1998-10-13 17:50
Fromthreedegree
SubjectHKP Composer-cecilia
I'm having trouble with HKP Composer I've installed all the components
but when I launch the .bat file I get the error....'can not find java
runtime'
have I installed it wrong (looks that way)
can anybody help.
also... I'm looking for more information on cecilia i'm also using linux
Csound and want to do some experiments.. thanks,
steb.



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Forgot to say...i'm tring to use HKP composer on Win98
I've just started with Linux so I don't know much at this time....
can anyone suggest some sound cards?
i'm using an AWE64 gold on windows but i'm lookinfg for a new sound card
that would work well on windows and linux is there such a thing!!!
i'm looking at the EVENT Layla audio card.
Thanks

threedegree wrote:

> I'm having trouble with HKP Composer I've installed all the components
> but when I launch the .bat file I get the error....'can not find java
> runtime'
> have I installed it wrong (looks that way)
> can anybody help.
> also... I'm looking for more information on cecilia i'm also using linux
> Csound and want to do some experiments.. thanks,
> steb.



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HPKcomposer setup isn't easy. I am building a new version with new features
that will be delivered when the jdk 1.2 will be available ans setup should
be easier. Now, back to the current version. First of all, it is running on
w95, w98, nt 4.0 and Linux. If HPKComposer isn't running, it's generally
because of a Java classpath problem.
JDK 1.1.6 or JRE 1.1.6 must be installed on your PC. So far, I don't think
jdk 1.1.7 as a problem, but I haven't tested it. Then the current version
that is on the server requires Swing 1.1 beta3, other levels won't work.
Here is how to setup without the Java Media Framework installed and used.

JDK installed in the directory c:\jdk1.1.6
Swing 1.1 beta3 in the directory c:\java\swing-1.1beta3
HPKComposer installed in the directory c:\hpkc
The classpath must be
".;c:\jdk1.1.6\lib\classes.zip;c:\java\swing-1.1beta3\swingall.jar;c:\hpkc\hpkc.jar"

JRE  installed
Swing 1.1 beta3 in the directory c:\java\swing-1.1beta3
HPKComposer installed in the directory c:\hpkc
The classpath must be
".;c:\java\swing-1.1beta3\swingall.jar;c:\hpkc\hpkc.jar"

The classpath is case sensitive. It's very important to respect the case.
In fact, some information in the classpath are redondant. If the JDK has
been correctly installed, you don't need to specify classes.zip.
Thus the following classpath works in every case:
".;c:\java\swing-1.1beta3\swingall.jar;c:\hpkc\hpkc.jar"

Error message  "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
                        javax/swing/UIManager
            at commonView.CSoundApplication.main(CSoundApplication.java)"
The swingall.jar isn't in the classpath or the level of Swing isn't 1.1
beta3





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Sorry for repeating myself.
I asked this a while ago and thought I might have
more luck this time.

It went something like this :
Hi,
   I would like to run one of my codes, written for RTCsound,
  on DirectCsound 2.0, and it seems like everything works,
  except that some MIDI controllers (using Peavey PC1600), work
  and others don't.(e.g. controller no. 1 is suddenly inactivated).
  It was bug free on RT a few minutes earlier.

   Does DirectCsound have problems with certain controller numbers ?
   Did I miss anything basic regarding MIDI and the transition to
DirectCS 2.0 ?

   It was hard to tell at the state I was -  but I think this was my
main problem.

   Any advise/clues ?  :-}

   Yair.






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From: Hans Mikelson 
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Subject: xyin for Windows or Dos?
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Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to get xyin working on a MSWindows machine?  Do any
of the MSWindows or Dos Csound versions support xyin?

Bye,
Hans Mikelson



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I am finally getting somewhere, and have at least modified one of the
tutorials to play a little score I made, but I get clicks on the 1/8 notes.
Is this a problem of my orchestra, my score, or my computer? Am I going
about adding the second hand the right way in general? Any criticisms?


; tootle01.orc follows
; Just two copies of a tutorial orch with some fiddling...

	instr 3 					; toot4.orc
	iamp = ampdb(p4-25) 			; convert decibels to linear amp
	iscale = iamp * .333 			; scale the amp at initialization
	inote = cpspch(p5-1) 			; convert "octave.pitch" to cps
	k1 linen iscale, p6, p3, p7/2		; p4=amp
	a3 oscil k1, inote*2, 1 		; p5=freq
	a2 oscil k1, inote*3, 1 		; p6=attack time
	a1 oscil k1, inote, 1 			; p7=release time
	a1 = a1 + a2 + a3

	out a1
	endin

	instr 4 					; toot4.orc
	iamp = ampdb(p4-5) 			; convert decibels to linear amp
	iscale = iamp * .333 			; scale the amp at initialization
	inote = cpspch(p5-1) 			; convert "octave.pitch" to cps
	k1 linen iscale, p6, p3, p7/3 		; p4=amp
	;a3 oscil k1, inote*4, 1 		; p5=freq
	;a2 oscil k1, inote*2, 1 		; p6=attack time
	a1 oscil k1, inote, 1 			; p7=release time
	;a1 = a1 + a2 ;+ a3

	out a1
	endin

; tootle01.sco follows
; copyright 1998 William James DeWitt
f1 0 4096 10 1 ; sine wave
;	instr start duration 	amp(p4) 	freq(p5) 	attack(p6) 	release(p7)
	i3 	0.0	0.25 		100     	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100		8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100		8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		2.0 >	2.0

	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.00 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100		8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.05 		0.1 		0.75
 	i3 	+  	0.25 		100		8.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100		8.02 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		4.0 >	2.0

	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	7.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	7.11 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.01 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		6.0 >	2.0

	i3 	+ 	1.00 		100	 	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	1.00 		100	 	8.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		8.0 > 2.0

	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.00 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.00 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		10.0 > 2.0

	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.00 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		9.00 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		12.0 > 2.0

	i3 	+	0.25 		100     	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100	 	8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	0.25 		100 		8.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+ 	0.25 		100	 	8.04 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		14.0 > 2.0

	i3 	+ 	1.00 		100	 	8.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i3 	+  	1.00 		100	 	8.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		16.0 > 2.0      end instr 3


	i4 	0.0  	0.75 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25  	100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		2.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.75 		100	 	9.00 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25  	100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		4.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.5   	100	 	8.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.5		100	 	8.11 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.5 		100	 	9.01 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.5 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		6.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.125 	100	 	8.11 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.125 	100	 	9.01 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		8.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.75 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25  	100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		10.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.5 		100	 	10.00 	0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.5 		100	 	9.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	10.00  	0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.10 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		12.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		14.0 > 2.0

	i4 	+  	0.125 	100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.125 	100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.09 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.07 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.05 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25 		100	 	9.04 		0.1 		0.75
	i4 	+  	0.25  	100	 	9.02 		0.1 		0.75

  ;		16.0 > 2.0

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Ooooh! I've been struggling with this one for a while. I've had a nightmare
trying to get my Terratec EWS64XL to work under Linux. The solution that I
would recommend (and which I am adopting) is to use a good card (in my case
the EWS) under Win9x for all audio I/O (via SPDIF), and to use a crummy card
like the AWE64, which has good Linux compatibility and use it purely for
_monitoring_ under Linux. This should be fine so long as you don't want more
than 2 channels!

Having said this, new drivers are being developed for Linux a quite a rapid
rate. I think Dave Phillips' website has links to *driver development* sites
for The Terratec and other cards (which use a SAM9407 chip?). see
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/index.html

One piece of advice for configuring a dual boot system when using 'shared'
hardware (especially Plug n pray)like a soundcard or Fax/modem: ***Don't use
the Lilo method to boot your OS*** It is much better to use Loadlin.exe
under these circumstances: If you use Loadlin you will be able to initialise
hardware  under Win9x/dos then softboot into Linux with the hardware
settings still loaded. For example, using this method the crystal chip on
the EWS64 can be initialised under Win9x and a bank can be loaded which can
then be used under Linux. Similar fudges may be possible using other cards.

Good luck!

JamieB

-----Original Message-----
From: threedegree 
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Date: 13 October 1998 16:23
Subject: HKP Composer-cecilia


Forgot to say...i'm tring to use HKP composer on Win98
I've just started with Linux so I don't know much at this time....
can anyone suggest some sound cards?
i'm using an AWE64 gold on windows but i'm lookinfg for a new sound card
that would work well on windows and linux is there such a thing!!!
i'm looking at the EVENT Layla audio card.
Thanks




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The winsound version does do xyin
My DOS version does not (cannot find out how to read teh miuse coordinates 
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Jamie Bullock wrote:

> I think Dave Phillips' website has links to *driver development* sites
> for The Terratec and other cards (which use a SAM9407 chip?). see
> http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/index.html

Actually, the URL you want to use is this one:

   http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html

Better yet, use a mirror:

   http://sound.condorow.net

   http://sound.lovebead.com

Luck !

== Dave Phillips