| > svfilter -- Implementation of a resonant second order filter,
> with simultaneous lowpass, highpass and bandpass outputs.
Yoohooo ! I know what I'm going to do tonight...
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, I promise my next
posting will be of more interest again (I just couldn't
resist to share my enthusiasm about the state-variable
filter)
Thomas
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Those Bosendorfer samples are proprietry, and should not be in
circulation. I cannot find them on the Bath servers anyway. Ask
Richard Boulanger if yoi want teh whole story but they were
incorrectly placed on teh MIT server at some time, and from there they
migrated.
Apart from that, the use of sndinfo was flawed in two ways
1) File names with spaces in them need use of "" or some such
2) you did not have csound.txt in a readable place. Hence no
response.
It is hard to see what you are doing wrong. I have used those
Bosendorfer samples with no troubles in teh past. If i ever get any
time I will look at the reports.
==John
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The AIFF files will have loop points in them. Converting to wav will
lose the looping information.
Just a thought
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The AIFF files will have loop points in them. Converting to wav will
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Just a thought
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The file you want is csound.txt
Place it in current directory, or your Sample, Analysius or SF
directory.
Currently there are only two languages supports, English and
Ammerican. Work is i progress on French and Japanese (I have mail in
my inbox relating to both those) and there are Spanish and Swedish
translations in flight I hope.
In 3.55 you can use an environment variable to identify the file, or a
commandline option, or with Winsound the private INI file
Windows\winsound.ini
I never was very good at writing documentation.
==John ff
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The file you want is csound.txt
Place it in current directory, or your Sample, Analysius or SF
directory.
Currently there are only two languages supports, English and
Ammerican. Work is i progress on French and Japanese (I have mail in
my inbox relating to both those) and there are Spanish and Swedish
translations in flight I hope.
In 3.55 you can use an environment variable to identify the file, or a
commandline option, or with Winsound the private INI file
Windows\winsound.ini
I never was very good at writing documentation.
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Fixed in 3.55; mea culpa
>>>>> "Job" == Job M van Zuijlen writes:
Job> It used to be that when you specified devaudio as output filename in
Job> Winsound the output would be sent directly to the sound card (equivalent
Job> to -odevaudio on the command line). In 3.54 it works for the command
Job> line, but it no longer works in Winsound because Winsound seems to
Job> automatically add an extension to the filename (e.g., .wav) and write to
Job> the file devaudio.wav, which is not what I want. I remember that there
Job> was a discussion a while ago about adding file extensions by default.
Job> Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention, because the problem I describe
Job> above is why you do not want file extensions added.
Job> Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Job> Job van Zuijlen
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Fixed in 3.55; mea culpa
>>>>> "Job" == Job M van Zuijlen writes:
Job> It used to be that when you specified devaudio as output filename in
Job> Winsound the output would be sent directly to the sound card (equivalent
Job> to -odevaudio on the command line). In 3.54 it works for the command
Job> line, but it no longer works in Winsound because Winsound seems to
Job> automatically add an extension to the filename (e.g., .wav) and write to
Job> the file devaudio.wav, which is not what I want. I remember that there
Job> was a discussion a while ago about adding file extensions by default.
Job> Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention, because the problem I describe
Job> above is why you do not want file extensions added.
Job> Anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Job> Job van Zuijlen
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On unix it looks in /usr/local/lib after all the user places
==John
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Greetings:
I have updated my Csound Resources/Csound For Linux page, it's at:
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_csound.html
I have also updated the Linux Sound & MIDI Software pages at:
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/
Heave ho...
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How can I establish the numer of analysis bins kin a phase vocoder analysis
file? This would be really helpful in accurately working with pvread, pvadd
and so on.
Richard Bowers.
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Seems I overflowed your "bowl of patience"...
Believe me, I did not want to do it.
Of course, you are completely right with "s" instead of "ss".
But umlaut is a problem for me. Sometimes I'm writing in
russian (imagine!) so I must to use a special Windows=20
codepage for cyrillic letters. I know how the =20
B =F6 s e n d o r f e r
you sent me must looks like, but the joke is that I see=20
a russian letter (don't know how to describe this one...) instead of
umlaut. I even tried to add German as a third language but did not
get more than cyrillic letters instead of some latin (english).
It's really great that at last I have word =20
B =F6 s e n d o r f e r=20
because now it's possible just to "Copy-Paste"... and no problems!=20
(yes, I had no chance to sit in front of one. My modest piano was made=20
in 1895 and it's name is "C. Goetze. St. Petersburg". By the way,
not long ago Richard Boulange wrote to List that=20
B =F6 s e n d o r f e r 's
samples are not public domain. Well, I can offer samples=20
of "C. Goetze. St. Petersburg" (joke). Anyway there is no problem with
writing.).
But still I can't relax. I'd like to write some words in Spanish to my
friend
from Madrid. So, can anybody, please, send me a letter 'n' with
the ~ above? =20
But my dream is if somebody correct ugly English in my messages
(by red pencil) and send them back to me.
It's only a dream, of course. Because work like this surely cost too much
:-(
Yours ignoramus,
Sergey Batov batov@glasnet.ru
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=C4=E0=F2=E0: 19 =E8=FE=ED=FF 1999 =E3. 14:47
> you tried to render a MIDI file using Bossendorfer's samples.
Now, that's misspelling number 7 (I counted!) of this name.
For all of you who have never sat in front of one, be it=20
known that the piano lid says in big (ugly) letters
B =F6 s e n d o r f e r
Not Bossendorfer or Bosendrofer or all the other variants. The
thingy with the two dots on it is an O umlaut. It is pronounced
like the "eu" in french "bleu".
Just to lessen the degree of ignorance in the world :)
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From: Richard Karpen
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The number of bins is half the windowsize of the analysis. I will be
posting, eventually a little application that reads pvoc file headers
(tells how many bins), and also let's one look at the data, bin-by-bin and
frame-by-frame.
Richard Karpen
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Richard Bowers wrote:
> How can I establish the numer of analysis bins kin a phase vocoder analysis
> file? This would be really helpful in accurately working with pvread, pvadd
> and so on.
>
> Richard Bowers.
>
>
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Hello,
I'm completely new to CSOUND as well as this list. Im allready
confused with this passage in the PDF manual.
<
he Public Csound Reference Manual 1:1 Version 3.54
"1 PREFACE TO THE CSOUND MANUAL
by Barry Vercoe, MIT Media Lab"
"The instruments in a Csound orchestra (.orc) are defined in a simple syntax
that invokes complex
audio processing routines. A score (.sco)passed to this orchestra contains
numerically coded
pitch and control information, in standard numeric score format.
Although many users are
content with this format, higher level score processing languages are often
convenient."
What higher launguages?
I thought CSOUND would be pretty darn good!
Can someone please inform me what CSOUND is and is not capable of?
Maybe I should just keep reading...
Thank You
John
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NTUPLET@aol.com wrote:
> Although many users are
> content with this format, higher level score processing languages are often
> convenient."
>
> What higher launguages?
> I thought CSOUND would be pretty darn good!
Well, if you like composing songs in the following format:
i99 0 61
i1 0 7.5 .16 .223 .63 2.3 .32 1 .96 1 .53 1 1 .42 1 .9 1 1
i1 0 7.7 .222 .15 .74 2.4 .24 .98 1.01 1 .53 1
...Csound is great for composing. However, if you need to do this for more than 30 or so notes, the
above gets pretty old. It all depends on what type of music you want to do. If your composition is
made up of only a few sonic events, each of which is very complex, then doing scores in the above
manner will work out well (the above lines were an excerpt from a composition I did a few months
ago). If you wish to have many hundreds of notes in a piece, as most "traditional" music does, you
should look into a score processing/generating language. I have used Common Music, a LISP-based
score generating program. Not the easiest language to learn, but it certainly makes "note"-based
music much easier to handle.
Sean Costello
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>"The instruments in a Csound orchestra (.orc) are defined in a simple syntax
>that invokes complex
>audio processing routines. A score (.sco)passed to this orchestra contains
>numerically coded
>pitch and control information, in standard numeric score format.
>
> Although many users are
>content with this format, higher level score processing languages are often
>convenient."
>
>What higher launguages?
>I thought CSOUND would be pretty darn good!
>
>Can someone please inform me what CSOUND is and is not capable of?
This is referring to the syntax that the score files must be written in,
not anything about what Csound can do. The heart of what you do in Csound
is really the orchestra files & what's in there would be what you would
call a higher language I guess. The orchestras have all the information
about how the sounds will be created & scores are just a list of when &
with what parameter settings those sounds will occur. That listing method
is sort of awkward, so some some prefer "higher languages" to generate
those lists for them.
Marc Poirier
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If it helps this discussion at all I believe that Stockhausen, no less, runs
CLab Notator on an Atari on a rather long jungle number called Licht.
Jim Smitheram wrote:
I feel compelled to say that pro sequencers, such as cakewalk, are only as
'pro' as the one using it. There are certainly rank amatuers out there
making the kind of primitive garbage you mention. . . midi has made a large
production base possible, but that has _nothing_ to do with quality except
in the many immature minds partaking of it. As myself a pianist of two
degrees and 40 years experience, I can do, and have done, quite a bit
better than "plastified classical or jazz arrangements or derive to some
tonal, 4/4 based techno stuff." On the Roland JV1080 (alas stolen, but I
shall again aquire one this year) I was doing all sorts of music far beyond
'disco and tube,' which I also along with you despise.
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I don't know about using Keykit with Csound, but I do like
its Mac-like UI! Makes me feel sophisticated. A cool
program definately worth checking out.
Wayne
On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, pete moss wrote:
> anyone here ever use keykit? i just got turned onto it today, and it
> seems really cool! i wanted to see what others have to say, especially
> in regards to interfacing it with csound.
>
> for those who dont know, it is a freeware midi thing at
> http://www.nosuch.com/keykit it runs on several different systems
>
> :P
>
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Windows help file sent to bath /incoming/Csound
It's called "Winhlp_Csound_Latest.zip".
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Windows help file sent to bath /incoming/Csound
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From: David Boothe
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Version 3.55 of the Acrobat Edition (pdf) of the Csound Manual is now
available for download. Please read the What's New" page for some pertinent
information. There are two site available:
http://web2.airmail.net/dboothe
or
http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual
Although the Geocities site currently still has the pop-up advertising
attached, that should change soon, and it seems to be somewhat faster than
the Airmail site. Due to space restrictions, the ASCII text version is
available only from the Geocities site.
-David.
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> >Thanks for your mail.
> (though make no bones about it, Csound is a much better
> >instrument if all you care about is how the end result sounds, which is all
> >I care about).
> >Buzz took me back to my college days in 1972 at the
> >University of Utah where I met Vladimir Ussachevsky and Nyle Steiner and
> >played around patching modules on Nyle's home-built version of Moog modular
> >synthesizers. I can fall into the same trance patching Buzz machines that I
> >did patching analog synth modules...
>
> >If you don't mind, I'm copying this mail to the Csound list, the music-dsp
> >list, and to buzz-talk, because I feel that the issues touch on the future
> >of musical composition and performance and the kind of software support
>
> nebula m81 = future ov
>
> data = korekt humanz = !nkorekt
> futur = z!lansz
ThairFour : nebula m81 = z!lansze ov ?
> hensz humanz = komod!t!ez ov dub!ousz worth
Especially when they determine the worth of commo ditties
> >Dorian Mode" ,
>
> sol++ konzum>g!glb!t . humanz = komod!t!ez ov dub!ousz worth
sol++ konzum = anthropomorphic misinterpretation of main sequence
earth++ konzum>[2^googolplex].bit : humans = larval memesis of
consciousness ultranova
-bd-
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Message written at 22 Jun 1999 09:20:56 +0100
Due to a file mix up here the files I released yesterday had an error
in them -- aops.c was an old version, and that failed to fix a bug
mentioned in the ChangeLog file. So I have just replaced all the 3.55
files for Windows, consolemode and Dos, SGI and Linux, and sources.
Solaris files to follow soon I hope.
Whiel I was at it I had another work over the string database. So it
does
1: if a -j option is given, use that file; if it does not open stop
2: Look for an environment variable CSSTRNGS and if exists attempt to
open that file. If OK use it, if fails carry on
3: On Windows only, look for the StringDB entry in the Profile
file/Registry. If that opens use it.
4: Look for csound.txt in current directory; use if OK, else next step
5: In turn look for csound.txt in the SSDIR, SFDIR and SADIR
directories
6: Lok for /usr/local/lib/csound.txt (really a Unix thing)
If none of those work, give up. If any works it does report which
database it is using.
Advice on doing this better gratefully received as ever
==John ffitch
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David,
Great job on the manual. I was wondering if there is an easy way to
update an existing manual. It would save paper and time. My version is 3.53.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Michael Rhoades
http://www.innerlightpub.com/rhoadsmith
> Version 3.55 of the Acrobat Edition (pdf) of the Csound Manual is now
> available for download. Please read the What's New" page for some
pertinent
> information. There are two site available:
>
> http://web2.airmail.net/dboothe
>
> or
>
> http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual
>
> Although the Geocities site currently still has the pop-up advertising
> attached, that should change soon, and it seems to be somewhat faster than
> the Airmail site. Due to space restrictions, the ASCII text version is
> available only from the Geocities site.
>
> -David.
>
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