RE: pvoc,soundin/diskin

Date	1998-05-28 15:16
From	David Boothe
Subject	RE: pvoc,soundin/diskin
	Why not use a sound file editor to excerpt the section you want, then save it as a new file? Then use the new file you created as your soundin source. I use Cool Edit 96 (Win95) to do this for my GEN01 instruments. You can also use this method to trim/pad the soundfile to make it the exact number of samples you need, if necessary. -dB (David M. Boothe, Audio Director Lyrick Studios, Dallas, TX) > -----Original Message----- > From: Qian Chen [SMTP:qian_chen@yahoo.com] > Sent: May 28, 1998 02:23 > To: Csound > Subject: Qs:pvoc,soundin/diskin > > Dear Csounders, > > 3.I have a suggestion - if some of you disagree it, please advise: > Both soundin and diskin can read a sound file skipping some time of > the file. Therefore, why isn't there a parameter to specify the > duration a user wants it to read? For example, if I want to skip 2 > seconds and just read 5 seconds but not the whole files after the 2 > seconds, I could use that parameter. Of course, I know I could use an > analysis file to realize it. But I do think it must be easier and > quicker if we add a parameter to soundin and diskin. > > Any comment is welcomed and thanks for your bandwidth. > > Qian Chen > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09007; 28 May 98 16:04 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04008; 28 May 98 16:04 BST Received: (qmail 14671 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:04:42 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:04:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14587 invoked by uid 1457); 28 May 1998 15:04:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xtcsound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list xtcsound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 14575 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:04:33 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14624 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:04:30 -0000 Received: from piano.technion.ac.il (132.68.57.183) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:04:30 -0000 Received: (from webman@localhost) by piano.technion.ac.il (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA12529; Fri, 29 May 1998 01:03:46 GMT Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:03:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Erez Webman To: Extended Csound Mailing List Subject: [XTCSOUND] Performance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Probably the most substential problem I have with Extended Csound is performance. Consider the following Csound program: ~~~ SCO file ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i1 0 5 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~ ORC file ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sr = 44100 kr = 441 ksmps = 100 nchnls = 2 instr 1 ain = 0 clkon 1 adel delay ain, 0.1 clkoff 1 clkon 2 aout = ain + adel0.9995 clkoff 2 outs12 aout endin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The debug screen displayed: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ clock 1: 4192955.000000 time units in 2205 kprds, cost = 0.839 mips clock 2: 2410334.000000 time units in 2205 kprds, cost = 0.482 mips ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Let's assume that delay implementation costs 10 ticks of the processor time (a reasonable speculation?), so I would expect delay to cost about 0.45 mips (1044100 = 441000 ~ 0.45 mips.). Evaluating "aout = ain + adel0.9995" seems to be even simpler... Please note that I executed this program with the -D3 parameter. Omitting this parameter doubles the cost. For me, this is a REAL* problem, since I tend to use "primitive" opcodes such as the above a lot. ADI said that they clocked the delay opcode at 0.19 MIPS. Any ideas why I get so different results? Can it have anything to do with the fact that the host PC is only a 120MHz Pentium? (I believe not, but who knows, maybe there is some handshaking going on which generates a bottleneck???). Thanks, Erez Webman Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09013; 28 May 98 16:05 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04046; 28 May 98 16:05 BST Received: (qmail 14795 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:05:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:05:21 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA01135); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:01:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 16:00:02 +0100 Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69] by hermes via SMTP (PAA26258); Thu, 28 May 1998 15:59:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11651 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 14:59:49 -0000 Received: from af179.du.pipex.com (HELO default) (193.130.245.179) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 28 May 1998 14:59:49 -0000 Message-Id: <356D7B08.4346@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:56:09 +0100 From: p robinson Reply-To: project.x@dial.pipex.com Organization: Project X X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: RE: pvoc,soundin/diskin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Why not use a sound file editor to excerpt the section you want, then > save it as a new file? Then use the new file you created as your soundin > source. I use Cool Edit 96 (Win95) to do this for my GEN01 instruments. > You can also use this method to trim/pad the soundfile to make it the > exact number of samples you need, if necessary. > > -dB > (David M. Boothe, Audio Director > Lyrick Studios, Dallas, TX) > > I also use Cool Edit to do this, but it does mean multiple copies of essentially the same information, Qian Chen's suggestion > why isn't there a parameter to specify the > > duration a user wants it to read? For example, if I want to skip 2 > > seconds and just read 5 seconds but not the whole files after the 2 > > seconds, I could use that parameter. would not only save on disk space, but would allow for experimentation without ever leaving Csound, for an example: If i have a sound file of 10 seconds long, want it to play 1 second of it, but only want the 1 second "that sounds best to me", then i would prefer to be able to do it within csound, also would it be possible to incorporate some kind of looping facility into this new parameter (which would allow [me, at least]to experiment with extracting steady state tones from sound files of varying sounds. Finally, could this be controlled in realtime?. P@. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09085; 28 May 98 16:41 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa06343; 28 May 98 16:41 BST Received: (qmail 9281 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:41:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:41:11 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA11997); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 16:34:55 +0100 Received: from GS160.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.203.172] by hermes via SMTP (QAA17708); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:34:45 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199805281534.QAA17708@hermes> Subject: Re: pvoc,soundin/diskin To: Csound mailing list Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Eli Brandt In-Reply-To: <356D7B08.4346@dial.pipex.com> from "p robinson" at May 28, 98 03:56:09 pm X-Portmanteau: pantryptaminergeticallysisterrainbowtie Reply-To: eli+@cs.cmu.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25-40] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk p robinson wrote: > > why isn't there a parameter to specify the > > > duration a user wants it to read? For example, if I want to skip 2 > > > seconds and just read 5 seconds but not the whole files after the 2 > > > seconds, I could use that parameter. > > would not only save on disk space, but would allow for experimentation > without ever leaving Csound, for an example: If i have a sound file of > 10 seconds long, want it to play 1 second of it, but only want the 1 > second "that sounds best to me", then i would prefer to be able to do it > within csound, kgate linseg 1, iplaydur-islewdur, 1, iplaydur, 0, 1, 0 e Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09104; 28 May 98 16:45 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa06601; 28 May 98 16:44 BST Received: (qmail 19014 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:44:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:44:58 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA15936); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:41:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 16:40:26 +0100 Received: from fortschritt.laden.ilk.de [194.121.104.31] by hermes via ESMTP (QAA12014); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:40:19 +0100 (BST) Received: (from jae@localhost) by fortschritt.laden.ilk.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA31851; Thu, 28 May 1998 16:40:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:40:32 +0200 Message-Id: <199805281440.QAA31851@fortschritt.laden.ilk.de> From: "Juergen A. Erhard" To: d.pierce@bathspa.ac.uk Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <3565F8F2.FD59C0EB@bathspa.ac.uk> (d.pierce@bathspa.ac.uk) Subject: Re: Durations and Sampling Rate References: <199805221217.OAA05309@fortschritt.laden.ilk.de> <3565F8F2.FD59C0EB@bathspa.ac.uk> X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 20.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnulibc1) X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 23:56:59 +0200 X-Personality: INFP X-Location: Karlsruhe, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany, Europe, Earth X-Confirmation: read Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think I can call this off.... I think (have to check, though), it's because I just cat the resulting audio file to /dev/audio (or /dev/dsp, forget which one). And I didn't set no sampling rate on the device... which may default to 10k, or even 8k (it's an old, very old, 8-bit SB-clone (Sound Galaxy, I think)). So, for one second (say), CSound generates 44k samples, which the sound card uses up at a rate of 10k samples/second -> voila, 4.4 seconds! An additional hint at this would have been (which alas I didn't mention in my original post) that the pitch of the notes was as dependent on the sample rates as their duration... the higher the sample rate, the lower the pitch. This means... I am very stupid. And I gotta get a sample player, and then I'll shut up (if this does not work, you're gonna hear from me again). Anyway, Bye, J PS: "Think first, then post" -- J\|rgen A. Erhard eMail: jae@laden.ilk.de phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 My WebHome: http://members.tripod.com/~Juergen_Erhard The GNU Project (http://www.gnu.org) Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- raster@rasterman.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09122; 28 May 98 16:53 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa07194; 28 May 98 16:53 BST Received: (qmail 9609 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 15:53:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 15:53:00 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (QAA14128); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 16:42:20 +0100 Received: from portal.dx.net [199.190.65.2] by hermes via ESMTP (QAA18322); Thu, 28 May 1998 16:41:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from nmol.com (nmol.com [206.162.11.2]) by portal.dx.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA19793 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:44:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Routed: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:49:00 -0500 X-Tcp-Identity: Mikeb Received: from nmol.com [206.162.11.176] by nmol.com with smtp id AJCPAMFO ; Thu, 28 May 1998 09:47:14 -0500 Message-Id: <356D8672.86D1F2A5@nmol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:44:52 -0600 From: Mike Berry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: pvoc,soundin/diskin References: <356D7B08.4346@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you want to play only 1 second, then make the note only one second long. If the note has to be more than 1 second, then set the volume to zero after 1 second (or if the last sample is zero, set the frequency to zero after one second). If you want to loop over the one second, then you need to have the file edited. Or load the file into a table and use tablei to read it and loop at the right point. As for finding loop points that sound good, this is not a task for which Csound is well suited. Use a sound editor instead. -- Mike Berry mikeb@nmol.com http://www.nmol.com/users/mikeb Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09157; 28 May 98 17:22 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09341; 28 May 98 17:22 BST Received: (qmail 22522 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 16:22:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 16:22:39 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA09315); Thu, 28 May 1998 17:18:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 17:17:54 +0100 Received: from root@huitzilo.tezcat.com [204.128.247.17] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA03422); Thu, 28 May 1998 17:17:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [204.248.80.120] (antiorp.tezcat.com [204.248.80.120]) by huitzilo.tezcat.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/tezcat-96091001) with SMTP id LAA19288 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:17:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805281617.LAA19288@huitzilo.tezcat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:26:55 -0600 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: =cw4t7abs Subject: Re: Dura Rate Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >PS: "Think first, then post" pzb - tz!ng b4 u do = kr!t!s!zmz moto do b4 u tz!ng = kreat!onsz dec!d!ng hou 1 dec!dez 2 eczasperate humanz elektro magnet!k pulsz surva!lansz tecxasz zukx. !nfantr! mov.ement on dze per!metr. report!ng. skUeekc .skUasch.snd.maTTr. - 0x7e Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09172; 28 May 98 17:30 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09654; 28 May 98 17:30 BST Received: (qmail 11017 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 16:30:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 16:30:19 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA27383); Thu, 28 May 1998 17:24:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 17:23:31 +0100 Received: from [199.85.19.2] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA26345); Thu, 28 May 1998 17:23:15 +0100 (BST) Received: by fw.osler.com id <20617>; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:28:37 -0400 Message-Id: <98May28.122837edt.20617@fw.osler.com> From: "Ruston, Paul" To: 'Csound group' Subject: Unknown # option, line 0 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I hope this isn't stupid question # 1. (I'm a new user) I've been goin through the ACCCI tutorial and some orcs work, some don't. I can't visually see any errors in the code but I am using these files on a windows version (maybe that's part of the problem). Here's the error message: error: Unknown # option, line 0 25 lines read instr 1 1 syntax errors...etc. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09252; 28 May 98 18:06 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11889; 28 May 98 18:06 BST Received: (qmail 12001 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 17:06:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 17:06:14 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA15970); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 18:00:11 +0100 Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82] by hermes via SMTP (SAA06954); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.btinternet.com [195.99.59.47] by praseodumium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0yf60u-00030O-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:58:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: who is =cw4t7abs From: Daniel Fattorini To: csound users group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:58:48 +0100 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who is this person, or not as the case may be. My guess is that =cw4t7abs is a government conspiracy to confuse all csound users. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09397; 28 May 98 18:59 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa14816; 28 May 98 18:59 BST Received: (qmail 13564 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 17:59:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 17:59:17 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA02461); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:54:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 18:54:07 +0100 Received: from howl.werewolf.net [206.103.224.20] by hermes via SMTP (SAA01279); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:54:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hans7.cray.com by howl.werewolf.net via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) for id MAA09250; Thu, 28 May 1998 12:54:06 -0500 From: Hans Mikelson To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.stork Subject: Re: pvoc,soundin/diskin Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:55:11 -0500 Message-Id: <01bd8a61$c2b75ee0$5de167ce@hans7.cray.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, You can use reinit to do a loop but I could not get reinit to work with diskin only soundin. You can also use a delay line to do a loop with an amplitude gate and/or the zak opcodes but delay lines tend to develop some DC offset. The example does not use an initial offset. Hans Mikelson ORCHESTRA sr=44100 kr=22050 ksmps=2 nchnls=2 ;------------------------------------------------------------------ ; Sampler Effects ;------------------------------------------------------------------ instr 7 idur = p3 iamp = p4 ifqc = p5 irattab = p6 iratrat = p7 ipantab = p8 imixtab = p9 ilptab = p10 isndin = p11 kpan oscil 1, 1/idur, ipantab ; Panning kmix oscil 1, 1/idur, imixtab ; Fading kloop oscil 1, 1/idur, ilptab ; Looping loop1: kprate oscil 1, iratrat/kloop, irattab ; Pulse Rate kamp linseg 0, .01, 1, i(kloop)-.02, 1, .01, 0 ; Amplitude Gate ; Amp Fqc ;a1, a2 diskin isndin, ifqc a1, a2 soundin isndin aout = (a1+a2)/2kamp ; When the time runs out reinitialize timout 0, i(kloop), cont1 reinit loop1 cont1: outs aoutsqrt(kpan)kmix, aoutsqrt(1-kpan)kmix ; Output pan & fade endin SCORE ; Rate Table f29 0 1024 -7 .5 250 .5 6 2 250 2 6 1 250 1 6 4 256 .5 ; Pan Tables f31 0 1024 7 1 1024 0 ; Mix Tables f41 0 1024 5 .01 128 1 768 1 128 .01 f53 60 1024 -7 .12 512 .15 512 .24 ; Sta Dur Amp Pitch RtTab RtRt PanTab MixTab Loop SoundIn i7 60 8 1 1 29 1 31 41 53 13 Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09440; 28 May 98 19:20 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16019; 28 May 98 19:20 BST Received: (qmail 4961 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 18:20:04 -0000 Received: from mail.infohouse.com (HELO milhouse.infohouse.com) (206.30.88.4) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 18:20:04 -0000 Received: from [208.151.41.210] by milhouse.infohouse.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 141-39833U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAB122; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:18:26 -0400 X-Sender: ic11748@mail.infohouse.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:16:56 -0500 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, John ffitch , mikeb@nmol.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.stork From: tolve Subject: crossfades feature request hmmm. maybe handy dandy crossfade opcodes (to smooth out clicks at loop points) would be useful in csound, with different shapes similar to those in Digidesign Pro Tools or MOTU Digital Performer. tolve Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09448; 28 May 98 19:23 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16296; 28 May 98 19:23 BST Received: (qmail 14543 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 18:23:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 18:23:54 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA00541); Thu, 28 May 1998 19:20:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 19:19:16 +0100 Received: from mail.infohouse.com [206.30.88.4] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA23195); Thu, 28 May 1998 19:19:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [208.151.41.210] by milhouse.infohouse.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 141-39833U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA122; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:18:22 -0400 X-Sender: ic11748@mail.infohouse.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <356D8672.86D1F2A5@nmol.com> References: <356D7B08.4346@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:21:35 -0500 To: Qian Chen , Jean Piche From: tolve Subject: Re: pvoc,soundin/diskin Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.stork Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk qian, while working in cecilia, an interface for csound on mac, unix, irix, linux, i seem to remember once setting end loop points that began before the end of a file. by setting table size on the low side. maybe with gen 01. but don't see why tablei wouldn't work as described. if that is the case, you can quickly test and adjust end loop points in cecilia, which makes adjusting offset, number of loops, and duration quite easy as well. and crossfades of loops should also be achievable. of course i don't want to discourage the requested new feature in csound itself, in fact i have added a related one for crossfade shapes under separate cover, but this may serve your purpose for now. comments jean? anyway, i have found cecilia to be indispensable in its own right... ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/cecilia tolve >If you want to play only 1 second, then make the note only one second long. >If the note has to be more than 1 second, then set the volume to zero after 1 >second (or if the last sample is zero, set the frequency to zero after one >second). If you want to loop over the one second, then you need to have the >file edited. Or load the file into a table and use tablei to read it and loop >at the right point. As for finding loop points that sound good, this is not a >task for which Csound is well suited. Use a sound editor instead. >-- >Mike Berry >mikeb@nmol.com >http://www.nmol.com/users/mikeb Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09460; 28 May 98 19:24 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16306; 28 May 98 19:24 BST Received: (qmail 14589 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 18:24:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 18:24:44 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA12485); Thu, 28 May 1998 19:20:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 19:19:22 +0100 Received: from mail.infohouse.com [206.30.88.4] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA27014); Thu, 28 May 1998 19:19:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from [208.151.41.210] by milhouse.infohouse.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 141-39833U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAB122; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:18:26 -0400 X-Sender: ic11748@mail.infohouse.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:16:56 -0500 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, John ffitch , mikeb@nmol.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.stork From: tolve Subject: crossfades feature request Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hmmm. maybe handy dandy crossfade opcodes (to smooth out clicks at loop points) would be useful in csound, with different shapes similar to those in Digidesign Pro Tools or MOTU Digital Performer. tolve Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09678; 28 May 98 20:31 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa19881; 28 May 98 20:31 BST Received: (qmail 17445 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 19:31:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 19:31:50 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (UAA16051); Thu, 28 May 1998 20:25:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 20:25:20 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by hermes via SMTP (UAA03907); Thu, 28 May 1998 20:25:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 16287 invoked by uid 1964); 28 May 1998 12:24:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" To: p robinson Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: RE: pvoc,soundin/diskin In-Reply-To: <356D7B08.4346@dial.pipex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > why isn't there a parameter to specify the > > > duration a user wants it to read? For example, if I want to skip 2 > > > seconds and just read 5 seconds but not the whole files after the 2 > > > seconds, I could use that parameter. the duration of the note (p3) is the duration of the soundin. > > within csound, also would it be possible to incorporate some kind of > looping facility into this new parameter (which would allow [me, at this is best done with a table-lookup instrument where the index is created by an oscil/phasor with amplitude=loop length then added to the skip time... of course if you are using a multi-channel soundfile you are out of luck - also problems with memory for large files (most so on a Mac). i always planned on writing a version of diskin that took parameters like table, instead of soundin. maybe i should look into that now... the other option, of course, is to use some sort of score generating program to create a new note for each loop. this actually is the most flexible (and in some ways the easiest) method, and the one i at least prefer... > You can use reinit to do a loop but I could not get reinit to work with > diskin only soundin. that's a bug in diskin - will get on that - thanks. -matt Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09710; 28 May 98 20:57 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa21407; 28 May 98 20:57 BST Received: (qmail 18515 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 19:57:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 19:57:34 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (UAA00239); Thu, 28 May 1998 20:52:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 20:52:17 +0100 Received: from strato-fe0.ultra.net [146.115.8.190] by hermes via ESMTP (UAA14856); Thu, 28 May 1998 20:52:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from jhvh1 (trismegist.ultranet.com [199.232.96.18]) by strato-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult.n14767) with SMTP id PAA21128; Thu, 28 May 1998 15:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980528155501.009b8bf0@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: maliq@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:55:01 -0400 To: Daniel Fattorini , csound users group From: QATJD Subject: Re: who is =cw4t7abs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes, it is obviously a covert plan to confound and demoralize the last bastion of intelligent and creative technologist artists via the 'Babel' effect. But in any case, I sure wish he/she/it would stop polluting the list bandwidth. I can't even say the messages are annoying, because they would have to be deciphered or decipherable to be annoying. At 05:58 PM 5/28/98 +0100, Daniel Fattorini wrote: > >Who is this person, or not as the case may be. My guess is that =cw4t7abs is >a government conspiracy to confuse all csound users. > > > thank you for your bandwidth Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09887; 28 May 98 22:19 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa25666; 28 May 98 22:19 BST Received: (qmail 22076 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 21:19:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 21:19:38 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA10541); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:11:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 22:11:14 +0100 Received: from [193.121.99.70] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA03589); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:11:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pavell.com ([193.190.88.181]) by hurricane.netgate.be (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-32575U60) with ESMTP id AAA199 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:15:51 +0200 Message-Id: <356DD29D.9340EB5D@pavell.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:09:49 +0200 From: David Schuyeteneer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: [Fwd: who is =cw4t7abs] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3C5298FEF90D7572ACEA65A0" Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3C5298FEF90D7572ACEA65A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think =cw4t7abs is an intelligent, weird human being, a little bit unoriginal, but further a nice person......always speaking in pseudocryptic "computer" language reveals that he/she suffers somewhat from puberal behavior, by desperately trying to act interesting and showing off fake-indepthness.... Ignore. David. --------------3C5298FEF90D7572ACEA65A0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from exeter.ac.uk ([144.173.6.14]) by hurricane.netgate.be (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-32575U60) with ESMTP id AAA249 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 19:06:43 +0200 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (SAA19763); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:01:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 18:00:11 +0100 Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82] by hermes via SMTP (SAA06954); Thu, 28 May 1998 18:00:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.btinternet.com [195.99.59.47] by praseodumium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0yf60u-00030O-00; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:58:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: who is =cw4t7abs From: Daniel Fattorini To: csound users group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:58:48 +0100 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who is this person, or not as the case may be. My guess is that =cw4t7abs is a government conspiracy to confuse all csound users. --------------3C5298FEF90D7572ACEA65A0-- Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09917; 28 May 98 22:33 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26338; 28 May 98 22:33 BST Received: (qmail 22327 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 21:33:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 21:33:43 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA20512); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:29:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 22:28:49 +0100 Received: from [193.121.99.70] by hermes via ESMTP (WAA12837); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:28:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from pavell.com ([193.190.88.181]) by hurricane.netgate.be (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-32575U60) with ESMTP id AAA100 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 23:33:31 +0200 Message-Id: <356DD6C2.475379E6@pavell.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:27:30 +0200 From: David Schuyeteneer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Csound List Subject: STC performing Live !!!!!! Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Csound ring ! I am very happy to announce that one of my favorite bands ever is going to perform live at the World Exhibition in Portugal at the end of august. The band i'm talking about is Sound Traffic Control, and I swear, for people who like electroacoustic/out-of-this-reality music this is one hell of crew.... I'll try to gather more info on it...or try it yourself : www.asphodel.com David. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09923; 28 May 98 22:33 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26343; 28 May 98 22:33 BST Received: (qmail 22330 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 21:33:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 21:33:44 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA25963); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 22:30:21 +0100 Received: from f136.hotmail.com [207.82.251.15] by hermes via SMTP (WAA20473); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5491 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1998 21:29:49 -0000 Message-Id: <19980528212949.5490.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.192.218 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:29:48 PDT X-Originating-Ip: [207.172.192.218] From: Paul Winkler To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk, pruston@osler.com Subject: Re: Unknown # option, line 0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:29:48 PDT Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: "Ruston, Paul" >To: "'Csound group'" >Subject: Unknown # option, line 0 >Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:51 -0400 > >I hope this isn't stupid question # 1. (I'm a new user) Don't be embarassed, this stuff takes a long time. I've been csounding off and on (mostly off) since 1992 and I still feel like a new user. >I've been goin through the ACCCI tutorial and some orcs work, some >don't. I can't visually see any errors in the code but I am using these >files on a windows version (maybe that's part of the problem). Here's >the error message: > >error: Unknown # option, line 0 > I don't use the windows version, but I've seen similar errors in linux when using Cecilia. Take a look at your score file at the line indicated (line 0). If the # symbol appears within a comment, I get an error. Maybe the windows version has the same trouble. For instance: ; This is a comment that causes no problems. ; This is a comment, call it comment # 1, that cecilia doesn't like. Removing the # that appears within the comment makes the error go away. Interestingly, csound run at the linux command shell has no trouble with the second example... regards, PW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09929; 28 May 98 22:34 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26348; 28 May 98 22:34 BST Received: (qmail 16858 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 21:34:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 21:34:07 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (WAA09181); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:31:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 22:30:39 +0100 Received: from f18.hotmail.com [207.82.250.29] by hermes via SMTP (WAA01416); Thu, 28 May 1998 22:30:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 27779 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 1998 21:30:04 -0000 Message-Id: <19980528213004.27778.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.192.218 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 May 1998 14:30:04 PDT X-Originating-Ip: [207.172.192.218] From: Paul Winkler To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Unknown # option, line 0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 14:30:04 PDT Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: "Ruston, Paul" >To: "'Csound group'" >Subject: Unknown # option, line 0 >Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:51 -0400 > >I hope this isn't stupid question # 1. (I'm a new user) Don't be embarassed, this stuff takes a long time. I've been csounding off and on (mostly off) since 1992 and I still feel like a new user. >I've been goin through the ACCCI tutorial and some orcs work, some >don't. I can't visually see any errors in the code but I am using these >files on a windows version (maybe that's part of the problem). Here's >the error message: > >error: Unknown # option, line 0 > I don't use the windows version, but I've seen similar errors in linux when using Cecilia. Take a look at your score file at the line indicated (line 0). If the # symbol appears within a comment, I get an error. Maybe the windows version has the same trouble. For instance: ; This is a comment that causes no problems. ; This is a comment, call it comment # 1, that cecilia doesn't like. Removing the # that appears within the comment makes the error go away. Interestingly, csound run at the linux command shell has no trouble with the second example... regards, PW ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10027; 28 May 98 23:18 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa28785; 28 May 98 23:18 BST Received: (qmail 24075 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 22:18:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 22:18:51 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA19303); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:16:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 23:15:38 +0100 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.34] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA20609); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:15:31 +0100 (BST) From: Terwur@aol.com Received: from Terwur@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id 6EGKa10872 for ; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1ff5c38b.356de194@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:13:39 EDT To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: who is =cw4t7abs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 170 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In a message dated 28/05/98 17:04:38 GMT, you write: > > Who is this person, or not as the case may be. My guess is that =cw4t7abs is > a government conspiracy to confuse all csound users. > > An incredibly pretentious prat. Nuff said. cheers, Jon. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10046; 28 May 98 23:23 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa29016; 28 May 98 23:22 BST Received: (qmail 24251 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 22:23:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 22:23:00 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA21300); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:20:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 23:19:32 +0100 Received: from neptune.lyrick.com [38.227.100.46] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA04009); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:19:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by NEPTUNE.lyrick.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2FPJK5A1>; Thu, 28 May 1998 17:16:56 -0500 Message-Id: From: David Boothe To: 'Paul Winkler' , csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: RE: Unknown # option, line 0 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:16:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Had the same problem a couple of weeks ago in Winsound. JPFF determined there is something in the Csound code does not want to see # even if it is in a comment. That is where I was using it and presumably Paul Ruston is, too. My solution was to use num instead of #. Only a 2 character penalty. It may* be on JPFF's list of things to fix. Don't want to speak for him, though. -dB > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Winkler [SMTP:zarmzarm@hotmail.com] > Sent: May 28, 1998 16:30 > To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Unknown # option, line 0 > > > > >From: "Ruston, Paul" > >To: "'Csound group'" > >Subject: Unknown # option, line 0 > >Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 12:20:51 -0400 > > > >I've been goin through the ACCCI tutorial and some orcs work, some > >don't. I can't visually see any errors in the code but I am using > these > >files on a windows version (maybe that's part of the problem). Here's > >the error message: > > > >error: Unknown # option, line 0 > > I don't use the windows version, but I've seen similar errors in linux > > when using Cecilia. Take a look at your score file at the line > indicated > (line 0). If the # symbol appears within a comment, I get an error. > Maybe the windows version has the same trouble. For instance: > > > regards, > > PW > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10084; 28 May 98 23:44 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa29984; 28 May 98 23:44 BST Received: (qmail 19813 invoked from network); 28 May 1998 22:44:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 May 1998 22:44:04 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA21882); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:41:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Thu, 28 May 98 23:41:00 +0100 Received: from peter.harvard.edu [140.247.68.78] by hermes via SMTP (XAA08327); Thu, 28 May 1998 23:40:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by peter.harvard.edu (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA03332; Thu, 28 May 98 18:41:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Fat_Boy X-Sender: peter@peter To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: =cw4 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk my dear csounders (tm), i can't believe all this wasted bandwidth attacking =cw4 (sorry, mate, for getting all informal; we hardly know each other). it is immensely irritating to read such witty and erudite comments as "pretentious prat" and "government conspiracy". real annoyance for me comes in the form of html messages, talk of "psychofictional" blah, but i'd never ask the perpetrators of this to be banned, or invent silly little stories accounting for their behaviour. nor would i publicly single them out as having a few too many problems. (oops, just did.) so much of what has been said smacks of reducing things to the lowest common denominator. rather, have a shot at reading what =cw4 (give me a pronoun!), just as i imagine =cw4 reads your stuff, no doubt with a degree of amusement. f@_boy.com+e Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10639; 29 May 98 4:30 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa16733; 29 May 98 4:30 BST Received: (qmail 28924 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 03:30:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 03:30:42 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (EAA20336); Fri, 29 May 1998 04:26:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 04:25:58 +0100 Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22] by hermes via SMTP (EAA08123); Fri, 29 May 1998 04:25:48 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <19980529011314.29527.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [192.9.25.21] by send1a; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:13:14 PDT Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Qian Chen Subject: RE: pvoc,soundin/diskin To: Csound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ---p robinson wrote: > > > Why not use a sound file editor to excerpt the section you want, then > > save it as a new file? Then use the new file you created as your soundin > > source. I use Cool Edit 96 (Win95) to do this for my GEN01 instruments. > > You can also use this method to trim/pad the soundfile to make it the > > exact number of samples you need, if necessary. > > > > -dB > > (David M. Boothe, Audio Director > > Lyrick Studios, Dallas, TX) > > > > > I also use Cool Edit to do this, but it does mean multiple copies of > essentially the same information, Qian Chen's suggestion > > > why isn't there a parameter to specify the > > > duration a user wants it to read? For example, if I want to skip 2 > > > seconds and just read 5 seconds but not the whole files after the 2 > > > seconds, I could use that parameter. > > would not only save on disk space, but would allow for experimentation > without ever leaving Csound, for an example: If Yes, what I think is the same as Robinson does. Using that parameter, we can both save disk space and control sound file dynamically. == Qian Chen _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10881; 29 May 98 6:55 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa24237; 29 May 98 6:55 BST Received: (qmail 19620 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 05:55:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 05:55:23 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (GAA24705); Fri, 29 May 1998 06:47:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 06:47:33 +0100 Received: from va.com.au [203.15.106.1] by hermes via ESMTP (GAA19548); Fri, 29 May 1998 06:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [203.16.208.31] by va.com.au with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 29 May 1998 15:16:48 +0930 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 15:17:31 +0930 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk From: Peter Subject: Reson probs Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Csounders I have been having some problems with reson. No matter what amplitude of signal I feed it , it outputs a very distorted signal. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- ; Reson.orc sr=44100 kr=4410 ksmps=10 instr 1 ia1=ampdb(p4) ib1=ampdb(p5) kcps=cpspch(p6) ifn=p7 ia2=p8 ib2=p9 kbw=p10 kenv line ia1, p3, ib1 kenv2 line ia2, p3, ib2 asig oscili kenv, kcps, ifn asig2 reson asig, kenv2, kbw out asig2 endin ;Reson Score ; f1 0 2049 10 1 ; Sine f2 0 2049 10 1 .5 .3 .25 .2 .167 .14 .125 .111 ; Sawtooth f3 0 2049 10 1 0 .3 0 .2 0 .14 0 .111 ; Square ; ; ;p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 ;i1 s d amp env cps wave filt env kbw ; --dB-- pch --cps-- ; i1 0 .2 90 50 8.09 1 900 150 100 i1 .25 .2 80 10 7.09 2 1000 500 350 i1 .5 .2 70 . 6.09 3 500 200 100 i1 .75 .2 60 . 8.09 1 900 250 250 e Here are the results SECTION 1: ftable 1: ftable 2: ftable 3: new alloc for instr 1: B 0.000 .. 0.200 T 0.200 TT 0.200 M:13601849.0 number of samples out of range: 8737 B 0.200 .. 0.250 T 0.250 TT 0.250 M: 0.0 B 0.250 .. 0.450 T 0.450 TT 0.450 M: 878051.4 number of samples out of range: 7046 B 0.450 .. 0.500 T 0.500 TT 0.500 M: 0.0 B 0.500 .. 0.700 T 0.700 TT 0.700 M:1305401.5 number of samples out of range: 8579 B 0.700 .. 0.750 T 0.750 TT 0.750 M: 0.0 B 0.750 .. 0.950 T 0.950 TT 0.950 M: 137360.2 number of samples out of range: 6274 end of score. overall amps:13601849.0 overall samples out of range: 30636 0 errors in performance See those amplitudes fly !!! It's not like I hvwe even used balance to get back some gain after filtering. Is it something I am doing wrong ? i am also having similar problems with lpread and lpreson , but that can wait for another mail :-) Any suggestions ? Peter Sansom http://sustenance.va.com.au Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10949; 29 May 98 7:47 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa26840; 29 May 98 7:47 BST Received: (qmail 20855 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 06:47:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 06:47:50 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA27992); Fri, 29 May 1998 07:39:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 07:38:53 +0100 Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA09350); Fri, 29 May 1998 07:38:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (ppp04-09.dial-access.stm.it [195.62.37.201]) by agora.stm.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09902; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:37:17 +0200 (ITADST) Message-Id: <356D0F55.AB7FA33A@agora.stm.it> Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:16:37 +0200 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ruggero Andrea Ruschioni Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: rephrasing... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <356C89E9.1E35CFA3@lsi.usp.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -K flag (that is choosing MIDI in port) is not yet implemented in Winsound (maybe it will be in the near future) Ruggero Andrea Ruschioni wrote: > Hi, > > On PCs w/ Win95 or WinNT: > Anyone has winsound accepting the "-Msbmidi" flag? > It accepts the flag but does nothing...is this a bug? (or a > non-feature) > > It is also not accepting the "-K" flag. > (disregard what I said about devaudio on winsound, that's working fine > I > mixed things up ) > Pleeeeeease.... > > Ruggero -- Gabriel Maldonado http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11231; 29 May 98 11:10 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10111; 29 May 98 11:10 BST Received: (qmail 18217 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 10:10:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 10:10:31 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA07764); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:05:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 11:04:37 +0100 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com [209.1.236.44] by hermes via SMTP (LAA06280); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:04:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailexcite.com; Fri May 29 03:04:00 1998 To: csound Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:04:00 -0700 From: Kay Q Lee Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Why Csound? X-Sender-Ip: 192.9.25.21 Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, I am new to this mailing list. I just took part in it today! So if the question here has been asked by someone else before, please forgive me. What I would like to know is why we choose Csound. As far as I know, Csound is a synthesis language. It can really make a lot of sounds that do not exist in the world. But don't you think synthesisers and samplers are great enough to realize it? So why Csound? Could someone out there give me some advice so that I will be clear about it? Thanks for your bandwidth. Regards Kay Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11281; 29 May 98 11:32 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12208; 29 May 98 11:32 BST Received: (qmail 1427 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 10:32:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 10:32:41 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA00660); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:27:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 11:26:59 +0100 Received: from nicb@ax-nicb.axnet.it [194.184.60.149] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA03315); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:26:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nicb@localhost) by ax-nicb.axnet.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10594; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:24:26 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:24:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicola Bernardini To: Csound mailing list Subject: some 3.481 bug fix patches offered Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I had to make some fixes in order to have my students finish projects etc. We use linux systems so the patches were done on Linux systems we the tools that we have available there (context diffs, patch, etc.) The reported bugs seem to be fixed, but I don't know if the patches break something else (a typical trend...). I post them in the hope they can help. Nicola P.S. The patch on sread.c should fix the '#'-inside-comments problem reported in some previous mails. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nicola Bernardini E-mail: nicb@axnet.it Re graphics: A picture is worth 10K words -- but only those to describe the picture. Hardly any sets of 10K words can be adequately described with pictures. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ opcode diskin: 1) skip time did not work at all, and file sample rate was incorrectely displayed (maybe Linux-specific, at any rate the code was wrong) 2) when transposition factor < 0, sound did not play if skiptime == 0 context-diff patch: * diskin.c.orig Sat May 23 13:08:59 1998 --- diskin.c Tue May 26 09:36:45 1998 *********** * 140,146 **** hdrsize = hdr->hdrsize; p->filetyp = hdr->filetyp; /* copy type from headata / p->aiffdata = hdr->aiffdata; ! p->sr = (short)hdr->sr; p->nchnls = (short)hdr->nchnls; } else { / no hdr: find info elsewhere / --- 140,146 ---- hdrsize = hdr->hdrsize; p->filetyp = hdr->filetyp; / copy type from headata / p->aiffdata = hdr->aiffdata; ! p->sr = (long)hdr->sr; p->nchnls = (short)hdr->nchnls; } else { / no hdr: find info elsewhere / ************ * 220,226 **** } else { p->begfile = TRUE; ! if (p->ktransp < 0) p->endfile = TRUE; } if ((n = sreadinew(sinfd,p->inbuf,SNDINEWBUFSIZ,p)) == 0) / now rd fulbuf / --- 220,226 ---- } else { p->begfile = TRUE; ! if (p->ktransp < 0 && nbytes == p->audrem) p->endfile = TRUE; } if ((n = sreadinew(sinfd,p->inbuf,SNDINEWBUFSIZ,p)) == 0) /* now rd fulbuf / ------------------------------------------------------------------------ score reader: comments get evaluated by recursive getscochar()/flushin() calls, and special characters inside comments get evaluated (probably not what was intended, I guess). To see what i mean, just try a sco file with a comment like this: ; this [is] a comment The square brackets get evaluated and the compiler stops. The fix is not very nice but I was scared to break something else. context-diff patch: ./sread.c.orig Mon Apr 13 19:45:00 1998 --- ./sread.c Wed May 27 12:48:36 1998 *********** * 651,667 **** linpos = 0; } static int sget1(void) /* get first non-white, non-comment char / { int c; ! srch: while ((c = getscochar()) == SP \|\| c == '\t' \|\| c == LF) if (c == LF) { lincnt++; linpos = 0; } if (c == ';' \|\| c == 'c') { ! flushlin(); goto srch; } if (c == '\\') { / Deal with continuations and specials / --- 651,687 ---- linpos = 0; } + / + * getscochar() does so much evaluation now that we cannot use flushlin() + * anymore to flush comment lines (otherwise they end up being evaluated too) + * so I added this one just to flush comment lines; this + * solution is ugly as hell but hey! I'm too afraid to break things in this + * glass house... + * [nicb@axnet.it] + / + static void flushcomments(void) + { + int c; + + while ((c = getc(str->file)) != LF && c != EOF) + ; + lincnt++; + linpos = 0; + } + static int sget1(void) / get first non-white, non-comment char / { int c; ! srch: if (c == ';' \|\| c == 'c') / line-beginning comments / ! flushcomments(); ! while ((c = getscochar()) == SP \|\| c == '\t' \|\| c == LF) if (c == LF) { lincnt++; linpos = 0; } if (c == ';' \|\| c == 'c') { ! flushcomments(); goto srch; } if (c == '\\') { / Deal with continuations and specials / ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mixer ancillary program: did'nt even compile under Linux context-diff patch: util2/mixer/mixer.c.orig Wed May 27 11:18:28 1998 --- util2/mixer/mixer.c Wed May 27 11:19:04 1998 *********** * 260,266 **** case '8': if (OO.outformat) goto outform; outformch = c; ! OO.outformat = AE_BYTE; /* 8-bit unsigned char file / break; case 'a': if (OO.outformat) goto outform; --- 260,266 ---- case '8': if (OO.outformat) goto outform; outformch = c; ! OO.outformat = AE_UNCH; / 8-bit unsigned char file / break; case 'a': if (OO.outformat) goto outform; ************ * 434,440 **** spoutran = floatran; floutbuf = (float )outbuf; break; ! case AE_BYTE: spoutran = bytetran; choutbuf = outbuf; break; --- 434,440 ---- spoutran = floatran; floutbuf = (float )outbuf; break; ! case AE_UNCH: spoutran = bytetran; choutbuf = outbuf; break; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ function duplications (maybe Linux-specific): we tried to build a dynamically linked library and small executables for csound and ancillary programs under linux; the process breaks in many places because of function duplications; the main.c file needed some small re-organization too. I think these changes should be incorporated if anybody else under any other system will want to build a dynamically linked library (a .dll, in Windowese). They should not affect the code at all if statically linked. context-diff patches: * ./util2/exports/het_export.c.orig Fri May 8 09:37:30 1998 --- ./util2/exports/het_export.c Fri May 8 09:38:19 1998 *********** * 23,28 **** --- 23,29 ---- exit(1); } + #if 0 /* this is in the CSOUND LIBRARY!!!! (remove from here!) / void err_printf(char fmt, ...) { va_list a; ************* * 38,43 ** --- 39,45 ---- vfprintf(stdout, fmt, a); va_end(a); } + #endif int main(int argc, char argv) { * ./util2/exports/pv_export.c.orig Fri May 8 09:38:40 1998 --- ./util2/exports/pv_export.c Fri May 8 09:39:01 1998 *********** * 12,18 **** #include "pvoc.h" void usage(int); ! int err_printf(char fmt, ...) { va_list a; --- 12,19 ---- #include "pvoc.h" void usage(int); ! ! #if 0 int err_printf(char fmt, ...) { va_list a; ************* * 20,25 **** --- 21,27 ---- vfprintf(stderr, fmt, a); va_end(a); } + #endif void mfree(void p) { ./main.c.orig Tue Apr 28 01:18:31 1998 --- ./main.c Fri May 8 09:39:50 1998 *********** * 10,30 **** unsigned int _stack = 0xFFF0U; #endif static int ScotScore = 0, stdinassgn = 0; - /static/ char scorename = NULL; static char xfilename = NULL; static char sortedscore = "score.srt"; static char xtractedscore = "score.xtr"; static char playscore = "score.srt"; / unless we extract / static FILE scorin, scorout, xfile; - FILE dribble; static void dieu(char ), usage(void); - extern OPARMS O; - char orchname = NULL; / used by rdorch / - #ifdef LINUX - int midi_out; - extern void openMIDIout(void); - #endif #define FIND(MSG) if (s == '\0') \ if (!(--argc) \|\| ((s = ++argv) != NULL) && s == '-') \ --- 10,40 ---- unsigned int _stack = 0xFFF0U; #endif + #if !defined(CSOUND_MAIN) + extern OPARMS O; + char orchname = NULL; / used by rdorch / + char scorename = NULL; + FILE dribble; + #ifdef LINUX + int midi_out; + extern void openMIDIout(void); + #endif + #else / defined(CSOUND_MAIN) / + extern char orchname; /* used by rdorch / + extern char scorename; + #ifdef LINUX + extern int midi_out; + #endif + #endif /* !defined(CSOUND_MAIN) / + + #if defined(CSOUND_MAIN) static int ScotScore = 0, stdinassgn = 0; static char xfilename = NULL; static char sortedscore = "score.srt"; static char xtractedscore = "score.xtr"; static char playscore = "score.srt"; / unless we extract / static FILE scorin, scorout, xfile; static void dieu(char ), usage(void); #define FIND(MSG) if (s == '\0') \ if (!(--argc) \|\| ((s = ++argv) != NULL) && s == '-') \ ************* * 34,40 **** --- 44,52 ---- void dialog_arguments(void); #include extern int cwin_atexit(void ()(void)); + #endif / CWIN / + #if defined(CWIN) int cwin_main(int argc, char argv) #else int main(int argc, char argv) ************ * 532,537 **** --- 544,552 ---- #endif exit(1); } + #endif /* defined(CSOUND_MAIN) / + + #if !defined(CSOUND_MAIN) #ifdef CWIN int args_OK = 0; ************ * 573,575 **** --- 588,591 ---- } } #endif + #endif /* !defined(CSOUND_MAIN) */ Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11289; 29 May 98 11:37 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12533; 29 May 98 11:36 BST Received: (qmail 21024 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 10:36:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 10:36:59 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA06124); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:33:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 11:32:31 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81] by hermes via SMTP (LAA19131); Fri, 29 May 1998 11:32:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.btinternet.com [195.99.52.68] by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0yfMRm-00077m-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 11:31:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: Moog opcode question From: Daniel Fattorini To: csound users group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:31:38 +0100 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is the moog opcode available on all versions of csound, I am using ppc version 0.3.1b. Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11471; 29 May 98 12:16 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa15242; 29 May 98 12:16 BST Received: (qmail 3587 invoked from network); 29 May 1998 11:16:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 May 1998 11:16:53 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (MAA16336); Fri, 29 May 1998 12:11:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Fri, 29 May 98 12:11:27 +0100 Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via SMTP (MAA07714); Fri, 29 May 1998 12:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from omphalos.maths.bath.ac.uk (maths.Bath.AC.UK) [138.38.99.25] (mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yfN48-0005Xp-00; Fri, 29 May 1998 12:11:16 +0100 From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk To: roger@lsi.usp.br Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <356C89E9.1E35CFA3@lsi.usp.br> (message from Ruggero Andrea Ruschioni on Wed, 27 May 1998 18:47:22 -0300) Subject: Re: rephrasing... References: <356C89E9.1E35CFA3@lsi.usp.br> Date: Fri, 29 May 98 12:11:12 BST Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Ruggero" == Ruggero Andrea Ruschioni writes: Ruggero> Hi, Ruggero> On PCs w/ Win95 or WinNT: Ruggero> Anyone has winsound accepting the "-Msbmidi" flag? Ruggero> It accepts the flag but does nothing...is this a bug? (or a non-feature) There is no code to deal with MIDI devices. I did sketch some of it once, but as I do not have MIDI on my PC I could not check it. -Mstdin should work though, or it might. Ruggero> It is also not accepting the "-K" flag. What -K flag? I cannot see one in the sources or the documentation.