any 'c' sources for PowerMac of the csound

Date	1997-09-05 13:35
From	Emanuele Pascucci
Subject	any 'c' sources for PowerMac of the csound
	I'm looking for any sources of the Csound for the Codewarrior 9 or above.PowerMac enviroment. thank emanuele Message-Id: <199709051704.SAA14035@hermes> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 18:06:15 BST From: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message written at 04 Sep 1997 23:43:22 -0400 --- Copy of mail to hljmm@discover-net.net --- In-reply-to: (message from Hans Mikelson on Sat, 16 Aug 97 15:20:46 PDT) What 16-bit things are you seeing? Csound works in floating point internally, which is typically 24bits scaled. Cannot help you on the analog oscilator -- never used analog. ==John ffitch Sender: pichej@ere.umontreal.ca Message-ID: <34103ECA.3B54@ere.umontreal.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:18:02 -0400 From: Jean Piche MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk CC: csound Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? References: <199709051704.SAA14035@hermes> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > Cannot help you on the analog oscilator -- never used analog. ...at last the Gods confess. -- ________________________________________________________ Jean Piche Universite de Montreal http://mistral.ere.umontreal.ca/~pichej http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/electro/CEC/ Message-Id: <34103ECA.3B54@ere.umontreal.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:18:02 -0400 From: Jean Piche Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk Cc: csound Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? References: <199709051704.SAA14035@hermes> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > Cannot help you on the analog oscilator -- never used analog. ...at last the Gods confess. -- ________________________________________________________ Jean Piche Universite de Montreal http://mistral.ere.umontreal.ca/~pichej http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/electro/CEC/ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:34:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Berry To: csound Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? In-Reply-To: <34103ECA.3B54@ere.umontreal.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone explain why oscili is perfectly good for making an analog oscillator? Opcode bloat has certainly already hit csound hard (just look at the list that is added in 3.47). Mike Berry mikeb@mills.edu Message-Id: <34104529.7D55@ere.umontreal.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:45:13 -0400 From: Jean Piche Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Berry Cc: csound Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mike Berry wrote: > Opcode bloat has certainly already hit csound hard good firecracker... more on that? -- ________________________________________________________ Jean Piche Universite de Montreal http://mistral.ere.umontreal.ca/~pichej http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/electro/CEC/ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Berry Reply-To: Mike Berry To: Jean Piche Cc: csound Subject: Re: Version 4.00? was Version 3.47? In-Reply-To: <34104529.7D55@ere.umontreal.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Jean Piche wrote: > Mike Berry wrote: > > > Opcode bloat has certainly already hit csound hard > > good firecracker... more on that? > > -- If I interpret that correctly as a request for elucidation, then here it is. (caveat: this comes from someone who wades around in the code, for whom added opcodes is a sometimes tedious exercise). I think that there are a number of opcodes which are largely collections of other opcodes, or in which functionality has been largely duplicated. Take the MIDI opcodes for example. We presently have a different opcode for every kind of midi data, in some cases three opcodes to retrieve the same data (cpsmidi, octmidi, pchmidi). Now we will also have separate opcodes for 7 bit, 14 bit, and 21(?) bit controllers. Why not just one single midi opcode? You could specify what type of data, what resolution, and what scaling you wanted. I know that for backward compatibility reasons no opcode is ever removed from csound. But if we're talking about version 4.00 (I know you didn't mention it jpff), perhaps some pruning is also in order. It wouldn't be hard to make an orchestra converter which, for instance, went through a pre-4.0 orch and changed all of the midi opcodes to a correct instance of the single midi opcode I just proposed. It could just fill in the assumed default values for things (like bit-range) which didn't previously exist. I mention this not just to keep entry.c from becoming 50000 lines long, but because the proliferation of opcodes considered by itself does not make csound easier to use. Yes there are valid opcodes still to be written. I don't want to freeze csound at any point. But we should also consider ways that the current opcode load could be reduced through consolidation. Mike Berry mikeb@mills.edu