| I don't know Rocky, but it sounds to me like the p5 value is given in
octave-decimal form (octave-point-decimal) therefore you need to use
cpsoct(p5) in your orchestra somewhere eg. at the start of an instrument you
may assign the value by doing:
icps=cpsoct(p5)
Hope that works.
Richard Bowers.
> In the program Rocky that was discussed in the "Sequencer"
> thread, does anyone know which opcode I use to utilize the p5 (pitch) of
> the generated score file? It is a number like 0.18, 0.16, 2.0, etc.
> (I've been using HPKComposer for a while and have forgotten.)
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
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References:
I think there is a bug in soundin, at least for some platforms --
seems OK on Windows but bust on SGI
Remember there are 2 granular opcodes and 2 or more other related
ones. grain is the first GS opcode frim Paris, and has little
control. I have used it for textures and some other sounds which are
what I want. There is also Allan Lee's grain4, called granule, which
has many more controls, but a very long argument list. Used propoerly
it should give you more control.
sndwarp is also a granular synthesis methd, but with a strict
limitation to time stretching. I think it is wonderful and have to
stop myself over using it. both fof and fog are granular; beyond me
though.
I hope others can answer your other questions. I have never used
loscil for example.
==John ffitch
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Hi,
>#!/usr/bin/perl
>
>for($x = 0; $x < 30; ++$x){
> $it = 100 * rand * rand * rand;
> print "It is $it\n";
>}
I'm not sure why but the following seems to work:
for($x = 0; $x < 30; ++$x){
$it = 100 * $rand() * $rand() * $rand();
print "It is $it\n";
}
Bye,
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Hi,
>#!/usr/bin/perl
>
>for($x = 0; $x < 30; ++$x){
> $it = 100 * rand * rand * rand;
> print "It is $it\n";
>}
I'm not sure why but the following seems to work:
for($x = 0; $x < 30; ++$x){
$it = 100 * $rand() * $rand() * $rand();
print "It is $it\n";
}
Bye,
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At present time DirectCsound doesn't support realtime output with more
than two audio channels.
SBLive digital output only send 48 KHz (even if it support any sampele
rate, it resamples all you send it to 48KHz).
Richard Bowers wrote:
>
> I'm looking to get an audio card with full-duplex capability and digital i/o
> for transfer to DAT. I read the spec for the SBLive card which seems to fit
> the bill.
>
> Does anyone have any experience of it when using Csound and/or DirectCsound?
>
> Is it possible to use it as a four-channel card for use with the quad
> capabilities of csound? Or is the quad sound limited to the SBlive's own
> spec?
>
> This is all a bit vague but I guess what I need to be able to do is run a
> quad output from DirectCsound, hopefully from a realtime input.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard Bowers.
--
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I have been offered the following SGI old machines, and I wondering if one
of them could fit my anxious desire for a Unix system. Also I have heard
that those Indy beasts has quad-audio.
Any advice appreciated (price, speed, possible problems).
Please reply privately or to the list, as you consider.
Note: They are 3 and 4 years old, and, I am afraid, quite used.
Javier Ruiz.
INDY R.4600
* Processor 133 MHz.
* SCSI disk controller 1.07 GB.
* MIPS R 4600
* 128 MB RAM Memory
* Indy 24 =AD bit.
* A2 Audio Processor
* IRIX Versi=F3n: 6.2
INDY R.5000
* Processor 180 MHz.
* SCSI disk controller 2.15 GB.
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INDY R. 5000
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INDYGO.2
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To: Richard Bowers
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In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jul 1999 23:28:54 +0200."
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>Richard Bowers wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking to get an audio card with full-duplex capability and digital i/o
>> for transfer to DAT. I read the spec for the SBLive card which seems to fit
>> the bill.
I humbly suggest you take a look at the Hoontech 4DWave cards, based
on the Trident 4D-NX chipset. They cost $39+shipping from Korea for a
card with 4 channel output (though there are some oddities about using
the rear 2 channels (*)) plus S/PDIF digital I/O (AES is an option too).
It took mine about 7 days to arrive (east coast US) via regular mail.
I have been using one with Linux (ALSA) for a few months, and am
very happy with it. There is a little bit of spectral peaking and
dipping here and there, but its a very nice card. Check out
www.hoontech.com.
--p
(*) the specs for the trident chip indicate that the rear channel
output gets routed through a reverb unit. they don't indicate how to
bypass the reverb unit. however, i imagine that under windows, this is
probably solved already. we're still trying to figure it out over on
the alsa-devel mailing list.
ps. trident wrote and donated a driver for their chipset to ALSA. if
you use Linux, show trident that you appreciate this kind of thing.
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anyone know why oscil and phasor wont work with very low frequency
oscillation? i tried generating signals with periods of 100 to 600
seconds, but at those low freqs, the period gets stretched. anything
below about .1 Hz starts to go wrong. is this problem caused by the
single vs. double issue raised earlier, or is it a different problem.
anyone know a different way to generate a very low freq signal with
correct period length?
:P
i am using consound 3.56 if it matters
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Hello,
This request does not pertain directly to Csound, but I could not
think of a better place to voice it. I am looking for the TclMidi
package. The only URL I can found that purports to have
something to do with it is the following:
http://marley.me.berkeley.edu/~greg/tclmidi/
However, this URL has consistently given no response over the
past few weeks. Does someone know of another TclMidi site, or if
there is none, would someone be willing to arrange to send a copy
as an email attachment (off-list of course)?
Thanks in advance for any help!
David Ogborn
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Subject: Miniature Space Craft orc/sco
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Hi,
I was trying to make a sound like a miniature space craft as seen in various
movies, perhaps like "Batteries Not Included", the floating robot in
"Flubber" and assorted other levitating vehicles. I'm not sure it came out
quite right but I thought it sounded sort of cool.
Bye,
Hans Mikelson
sr = 44100
kr = 44100
ksmps = 1
nchnls= 2
; Miniship with AM
instr 8
idur = p3 ; Duration
iamp = p4 ; Amplitude
ifqc = cpspch(p5) ; Pitch to frequency
itab = p6 ; Waveform
iftb = p7 ; FM table 1
iffq = p8 ; FM frequency
iatb = p9 ; AM table
iafq = p10 ; AM frequency 1
iafq2 = p11 ; AM frequency 2
ifm2 = p12 ; FM frequency envelope
afm2 oscili 1, 1/idur, ifm2 ; Frequency envelope
adklk linseg 0, .005, iamp, idur-.01, iamp, .005, 0 ; Declick
afqc oscili 1, iffq*afm2, iftb ; FM oscillator 1
aam1 oscili 1, iafq*afm2, iatb ; AM oscillator for oscil
aam2 oscili 1, iafq2*afm2, iatb, .25 ; AM oscillator for filtered noise
anz1 rand 1 ; Noise source for FM
anz2 rand aam2 ; Noise source for filtering
asig oscil aam1, ifqc*(1+anz1/2)*afqc, itab ; Main FM oscillator
asig2 rezzy anz2*2, ifqc, 40 ; Filter the noise with resonant LP
outs (asig+asig2)*.8*adklk, (asig+asig2)*.8*adklk ; Sum signals and
declick
endin
f1 0 65536 10 1
f2 0 65536 10 1 .2 .1 .3
f3 0 65536 10 1 .0 .1 .0 .1
f4 0 65536 10 1 .0 .4 .0 .3 0 .2 0 .1
f4 0 65536 10 1 .0 0 .0 0 0 0 0 .1
f10 0 1024 -7 .5 512 4 512 .5
f11 0 1024 -7 1 256 1.5 256 1.5 256 .5 256 1
f12 0 1024 -7 .5 512 2 512 .5
f20 0 1024 7 0 256 1 256 .5 256 0 256 0
f21 0 1024 7 .5 256 .7 256 1 256 .7 256 .9
f22 0 1024 7 0 128 0 128 1 128 0 128 0 256 1 256 0
f23 0 1024 7 .8 256 .7 256 .5 256 1 256 .6
; Sta Dur Amp Pitch Table FTable FFqc ATable AFqc AFqc2 FM2Tab
i8 0 20 10000 8.00 4 10 25 20 24.5 25 21
i8 8 18 15000 7.00 3 12 12 20 24.5 25 23
i8 16 10 20000 8.10 3 12 35 20 34.9 34.8 21
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I've just searched out some interesting info re sblive value at:
http://atlas.hemmet.s-hem.chalmers.se/livecenter/information/spdifvalue.html
It describes how to get digital-out out of the value card.
Richard Bowers.
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Sorry about the mail burp, Csoundlist.
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Pete,
Your right and probalby this should be documented somewhere in the
csound manual. around 8-9 years ago I was using oscili for envlopes
over very long stretches of time such as you're doing and it took
me many long and frustrating days to figure out why I was not getting
the results I expected to get. No time right now to explain why this
happenes.
My quick advice: Use a phasor/table(i) pair instead of oscil(i) and you'll
get exactly what you want.
Richard
On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, pete moss wrote:
> anyone know why oscil and phasor wont work with very low frequency
> oscillation? i tried generating signals with periods of 100 to 600
> seconds, but at those low freqs, the period gets stretched. anything
> below about .1 Hz starts to go wrong. is this problem caused by the
> single vs. double issue raised earlier, or is it a different problem.
> anyone know a different way to generate a very low freq signal with
> correct period length?
>
> :P
>
> i am using consound 3.56 if it matters
>
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well, i tried it with a phasor, but still got the same results. the
really low frequencies (such as .001 Hz) tend to stretch the period
out. i might try it with linseg instead of phasor since i can have
better control over the period.
i would love to know why this happens, and if the code could be fixed to
accomodate very low freqs.
:P
Richard Karpen wrote:
>
> Pete,
>
> Your right and probalby this should be documented somewhere in the
> csound manual. around 8-9 years ago I was using oscili for envlopes
> over very long stretches of time such as you're doing and it took
> me many long and frustrating days to figure out why I was not getting
> the results I expected to get. No time right now to explain why this
> happenes.
>
> My quick advice: Use a phasor/table(i) pair instead of oscil(i) and you'll
> get exactly what you want.
>
> Richard
>
> On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, pete moss wrote:
>
> > anyone know why oscil and phasor wont work with very low frequency
> > oscillation? i tried generating signals with periods of 100 to 600
> > seconds, but at those low freqs, the period gets stretched. anything
> > below about .1 Hz starts to go wrong. is this problem caused by the
> > single vs. double issue raised earlier, or is it a different problem.
> > anyone know a different way to generate a very low freq signal with
> > correct period length?
> >
> > :P
> >
> > i am using consound 3.56 if it matters
> >
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You want to make sure the Indy's do have a secondary cache since
the entry models shipped without one. The processor spec should
thus read R4600SC and R5000SC, with `SC' for secondary cache.
Without it, audio synthesis is about 5 times slower. Yes, they
have quad audio. Regarding Unix: you also may want to make sure
you get the full Development option for the C compilers. ^.2 is
a nice and stable OS. I actually prefer it to later releases
since the audio kernel does automatically copy analog output
through to the digital output, that is you can watch your synthesis
while listening to it. There is nothing in 6.5 audiowise that
really helps you with csound. The newer compiler, of course are
much better.
Hope that helps,
-Tobias
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David Ogborn wrote:
> http://marley.me.berkeley.edu/~greg/tclmidi/
It does seem to be defunct. Try writing directly to Mike Durian
and ask him where tclmidi lives now.
== Dave Phillips
http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/index.html
http://sunsite.univie.ac.at/Linux-soundapp/linux_soundapps.html
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hi
perhaps you folks have allready disscussed this long ago,
but perhaps not. but anyway , when there is a posting on how to
do sound blaster tricks or make sound cards in general work,
why not post the answers into the manual in a single glob with =
a single tag to goto sound cards.
=
by
craig
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The simplest thing would be to use MIDI semantics but with float values.
Thus key 60.5 would be 1/4 tone sharper than C.
After that, assign the MIDI channel message data to a standard set of
pfields:
p1 channel
p2 timestamp
p3 duration
p4 status (NOTE_ON, CONTROL, etc.)
p5 key
p6 velocity
p7 others as desired...
Another faster wire protocol could be used to convey these messages (UDP,
FireWire, etc.).
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From: Richard Dobson
To: csound csound
Date: Saturday, July 24, 1999 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: sequencer
>There is still the other aspect of the question, which as I understand
>it asks about the possibility of some sort of Csound sequencer
>(Cquencer?). Presumably graphic, with lots of drag-n-drop. The issue is,
>how might this work, with possibly 50 pfields per event, 47 of which can
>be virtually ~anything~ (but which must be correct for the given
>instrument)?
>
>What has already been done, that could be developed further (ZIPI?
>NetSound?)? What is the simplest design that would be musically useful,
>and yet a step further than MIDI?
>
>
>Richard Dobson
>
>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>
>> MIDI note offs are not difficult to handle if you use a push-down stack
of
>> running instrument instances for each MIDI channel/MIDI key slot. Note on
>> messages push an instrument instance onto the stack, and note off
messages
>> pop an instrument instance off the stack. This is not perfect, but it
works
>> well enough.
>>
>[etc]
>--
>Test your DAW with my Soundcard Attrition Page!
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pete moss wrote:
>well, i tried it with a phasor, but still got the same results. the
>really low frequencies (such as .001 Hz) tend to stretch the period
>out. i might try it with linseg instead of phasor since i can have
>better control over the period.
>i would love to know why this happens, and if the code could be fixed to
>accomodate very low freqs.
>
>:P
Try poscil ("precision oscillator") !
Jens Groh
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I wrote a csound score generator that can be used like a sequencer,
along with comfortable p-field, orchestra and function table editing,
realtime controls, DO-control and a lot of other stuff.
Unfortunately, it only runs on NextStep/OpenStep/Intel and I dont think
I will port it to another platform in the next time (maybe some similar stuff
when MacOS X is all clear...)
If anyone on the list who is working with NeXTStep is interested
in it I can make it available. Please tell me!
Peter
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>> Rocky- the 22 tone equal temperament sequencer is at
>> http://www.oberlin.edu/~pblasser/rocky.html
On the subject of sequencers.. I wrote something (windoze) a while back,
which I think may have escaped into the world, but was a bit too bug-ridden
for people to get a huge amount of use out of it. I thought I'd just
describe the ideas behind it tho in case anyone else has an urge to do
something similar...
It was basically a pattern based sequencer for Csound... it read in an
orchestra file, which contained comments describing the pfields, complete
with useful ranges and default values. Then you made patterns of arbitrary
length by drawing blocks on a grid to represent notes. Underneath the grid
was a line graph where you could draw timelines for each pfield. Finally,
there was a third (arrangement) grid where you could combine patterns by
simply painting them on, and they would repeat as many times as necessary to
fill the space. It was then a fairly simple matter to render this into a
csound score. The final thing I was working on before becoming far too busy
was a set of modifiers that could be applied in the arrangement grid. These
were basically LFOs with a variety of waveshapes that you could apply to
pfields in any particular block.
If anyone's interested I can try and dig it out, but you should bear in mind
that getting it running could well be a process involving a lengthy and
frustrating email exchange with me.. and I can't quite remember how it all
works :) It's written in VB (probably version 3?).. happy to give away the
src.. but a rewrite would probably be easier.. it's messy :)
Matt
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