Re: Audio file lengths

Date	1999-07-10 13:40
From	richard bowers
Subject	Re: Audio file lengths
	Thanks for your comments (below), Richard. Yes, that's exactly what is needed. Trouble is, I'm no programmer so I'll live in hope. Personally, I'm suprised it hasn't already been implemented as an opcode or as a parameter within diskin/soundin because I'm always overshooting the file length, especially when offsetting from the start using a random number from the score. Also, with diskin it would be usefully applied in calculating the file's duration when playing at different speeds and for applying the right envelopes etc. Anyway, Thanks again. (Thanks also to the others, but I wasn't thinking of the loscil/gen01 option). Richard Bowers. Richard Dobson wrote: > Of course the silly thing about this is that the information is already > there in the file header. An elegant solution would be to extend the > soundin and diskin opcodes to return a second value. Ideally this should > be optional - is such a thing feasible with the current Csound syntax? > Alternatively, 'sndinfo' could become an opcode. > > > Richard Dobson > Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11731; 10 Jul 99 13:54 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112weF-0003LC-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:54:31 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (NAA16905); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:52:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:52:08 +0100 Received: from howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10] by hermes via ESMTP (NAA12429); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:52:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dial9.werewolf.net [12.23.153.9]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA16210 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:39:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001501becad4$166444a0$0999170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Csound Subject: Csound Magazine Realtime Article Corrections Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:59:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I made some corrections to my Realtime article in this issue of Csound Magazine. I had the virtual midi ports connected incorrectly as I described in the article. It should be OK now. Thanks to Michel Jullian for offering the corrections. Regards, Hans Mikelson Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11740; 10 Jul 99 14:00 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112wik-0004w7-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:59:10 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (NAA10245); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:58:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:57:53 +0100 Received: from howl.werewolf.net [12.23.152.10] by hermes via ESMTP (NAA17496); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:57:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dial9.werewolf.net [12.23.153.9]) by howl.werewolf.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA09174 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:45:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002401becad4$e482afc0$0999170c@default> From: Hans Mikelson To: Csound List Subject: Thanks to the Contributers was Re: AXCsound/Visual Basic Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Wayne wrote: >Does anyone have code for AXCsound and VB4? The code >in the Csound Ezine (great job Hans!) Thanks, but the magazine wouldn't be very good without all the help I have gotten from my contributers. I just put a wrapper around the articles. Thank you everyone. Regards, Hans Mikelson Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11811; 10 Jul 99 14:50 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112xW7-0003LY-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:50:11 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (OAA05147); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:47:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:47:47 +0100 Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25] by hermes via ESMTP (OAA01526); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:47:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-30.desitin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.61.158] helo=internetpc) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112xTm-0005aD-00 for csound@maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:47:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000901becadb$05b74ce0$9e3d883e@internetpc> From: richard bowers To: csound csound Subject: soundout/fout: writing to different files for each time instrument is called?? Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:49:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone help? This is what I want to do: Write different soundfiles using one soundout each time the instrument is called from the score ie: score: i1 0 10 i1 0 5 i1 2 10 etc. resulting in (say) sound1.wav, sound2.wav, sound3.wav and so on. I would like to do it without specifying the names in advance but just to have an incremental numbering system. This is because, ultimately, I would like to do it (using the DirectCsound fout opcode) in a realtime MIDI setup. Subsequently, I would need to apply the same principle to the soundin/diskin ugs for retrieving the files. Thanks in advance. Richard Bowers. Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11822; 10 Jul 99 14:58 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112xct-0004we-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:57:11 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (OAA15733); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:56:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:55:57 +0100 Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25] by hermes via ESMTP (OAA15465); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:55:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-30.desitin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.61.158] helo=internetpc) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112xbg-0007RV-00; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:55:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001101becadc$2982b3c0$9e3d883e@internetpc> From: richard bowers To: Richard Dobson Cc: csound csound References: <283AABB8FD0DD21187C200A0C995F5DEECB015@neptune.lyrick.com> <378648E1.B99F7728@cableinet.co.uk> Subject: Re: Audio file lengths Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:57:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A second thought about Richard Dobson's suggestions (below) is that I, personally, would find the option of an independent 'sndinfo' opcode preferable in the long run (rather than extending the existing sound-file opcodes) because I can already forsee instances where the information would be useful without having to call-up the soundin/diskin opcodes (eg. you may wish to write a file of identical length as the original or maybe write some k-rate control procedure but don't require the source sound). Just a thought in case any of you brilliant and talented programmers fancied the challenge of writing something :) Thanks Richard Bowers. From: Richard Dobson > Of course the silly thing about this is that the information is already > there in the file header. An elegant solution would be to extend the > soundin and diskin opcodes to return a second value. Ideally this should > be optional - is such a thing feasible with the current Csound syntax? > Alternatively, 'sndinfo' could become an opcode. > > > Richard Dobson > > > > From: richard bowers > > [mailto:richardbowers@simulacrum.freeserve.co.uk] > > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:45 AM > > > To: csound csound > > > Subject: Audio file lengths > > > > > > > > > Can anyone offer me a solution to obtaining the duration (if > > > possible) or > > > file size of an audio file stored on disk from within a > > > instrument? I feel > > > it would be useful to know the duration of a file to make > > > better use of - > > > and prevent errors when using - the skiptime on the > > > soundin/diskin ugs. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Richard Bowers. Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11903; 10 Jul 99 15:35 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112yDg-0003Lw-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:35:12 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA09445); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:33:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:32:53 +0100 Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (PAA08371); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:32:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112yAX-0004x8-00; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:31:57 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 99 15:32:51 BST From: J P Fitch To: Servando Valero cc: Csound Mailing List Subject: Re: Spanish Manual 3.55 Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ...and it is now in pub/dream/documentation/manuals/ as -rw-r--r-- 1 jpff comp 233228 Jul 10 15:31 Spanish3-55.zip Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11919; 10 Jul 99 15:37 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112yEm-0004xJ-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:36:20 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (PAA07093); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:35:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:34:55 +0100 Received: from exim@wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk [138.38.100.104] by hermes via ESMTP (PAA13611); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:34:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from [138.38.97.36] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112yCT-0004xE-00; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:33:57 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 99 15:34:50 BST From: J P Fitch To: Anders Andersson cc: The CSound mailinglist Subject: Re: primenumbers Message-Id: Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Of course your assertion "If one have an integer X.. Can you be sure that a prime exists between X and 2X?" is false if X=1 I suspect you wanted to ignore htis case..... Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12110; 10 Jul 99 17:16 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112zo0-0003Mf-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:16:48 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA09055); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:14:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:14:24 +0100 Received: from mail.infohouse.com [204.143.176.4] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA08327); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:14:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [204.143.224.13] (dial-up013.infohouse.com) by mail.infohouse.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 141-59479U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:08:18 -0400 X-Sender: ic11748@mail.infohouse.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003301bec9e7$5f4c0b00$1d1a883e@internetpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:17:34 +0100 To: richard bowers From: tolve Subject: Re: Audio file lengths Cc: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk don't know from within instrument. but on mac: ftp://music.calarts.edu/pub/SoundHack/ tolve >Can anyone offer me a solution to obtaining the duration (if possible) or >file size of an audio file stored on disk from within a instrument? I feel >it would be useful to know the duration of a file to make better use of - >and prevent errors when using - the skiptime on the soundin/diskin ugs. > >Thanks, >Richard Bowers. 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Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12314; 10 Jul 99 19:33 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1131wC-0003Nu-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:33:24 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA05118); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:29:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:29:45 +0100 Received: from ares.flash.net [209.30.0.41] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA10099); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:29:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from bigfoot.com (p236-119.atnt2.dialup.ftw1.flash.net [209.30.236.119]) by ares.flash.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26295; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:29:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37879120.143FEEAC@bigfoot.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:29:52 -0500 From: pete moss Organization: pete moss GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josep M Comajuncosas , csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Csound under Windows CE? References: <3787287C.CFBDE6B4@intercom.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i dont know anyone with CE running any good software. but i guess that is because i am a palmpiloteer and CE is my mortal enemy. that aside, you would probably need to specially recompile and even rewrite system stuff in csound for it to work in CE. as far as i know, you cant just d/l a real windows file onto CE and it works. also, generating wav files is a concern, as handheld devices dont have hard drives, but have memory (8 or 16 megs on CE devices). any good csound work easily fills up that space quickly. also also, the processor is _really_ slow compared to desktop computers, so it would take a long time. also also also, CE devices are noted for their very short battery life, 2 or 3 hours from what i have heard. i doubt you could keep the device alive long enough to finish generation. i dont think CE devices can use PCMCIA cards of any sort. sound features are built right into the OS. you should realize that windows CE is not normal windows, but a very slimmed down version, with much more limited ability. of course i could be wrong on most of this too. i dont own one and i dont want to. they are slower, more bloated, and more expensive than palmpilots. they also run windows, which isnt a good thing. but you also cant do any of this stuff on a palmpilot. i dont mean to be such a downer on this topic, but running csound on a handheld computer is really beyond the technology right now. this could change next year though. there is a list called handheld-music@onelist.com that discusses musical uses of small computers. i have done midi controllers for my palmpilot, and soon i will begin work on an app that emulates the peavey 1600x. info on the list can be had at http://www.crudites.org/soundventures/handheld-music/ good luck! if you get something going, please let us know at handheld-music. this is an exciting time to be doing computer music! :P Josep M Comajuncosas wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone know whether Csound can run on a PDA with Windows CE > installed? If true, what versions? what about the speed, limitations, > best PCMCIA sound cards for that, etc.? > Tnx in advance! > > -- > Josep M Comajuncosas > C/ Circumval.lacio 75 08790 Gelida - Penedes > Catalunya - SPAIN tel. 93 7792243 > e-mail: gelida@intercom.es > ET Informatica de Sistemes > e-mail: jcomajuncosas@campus.uoc.es > http://members.tripod.com/csound/ Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12493; 10 Jul 99 21:33 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1133oJ-0003Oq-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:33:23 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (VAA09620); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:13:39 +0100 (BST) From: f1f0@m9ndfukc.com Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:13:29 +0100 Received: from saba.wwa.com [198.49.174.36] by hermes via ESMTP (VAA17498); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 21:13:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [207.241.63.45] (poolf1-044.wwa.com [207.241.63.45]) by saba.wwa.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA01431 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:13:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199907102013.PAA01431@saba.wwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:15:59 -0600 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos Subject: [ot t t t t t] nato.o+55+3d \/\ quickdraw 3d pour ircam max Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sch nato.o+55+3d \/\ quickdraw 3d pour ircam max splendid kode montaj - http://www.m9ndfukc.org/korporat/nato.0+55+3d.html splendid 3d montaj - http://m9ndfukc.com/propaganda/zekuensz/_nato.0+55.+3d.219.gif.hTmL -- nato 0+55+3d is the first [macintosh +?] environment for +? `realtime` midi + data control of 3d models - as well +? as `realtime` midi + data paint on 3d objekts - as well +? nato 0+55+3d combines ::: quicktime.quicktimevr.quickdraw.quickdraw.3d - as well as the internet for one ultra mu[l]temedia galla spectacle. one may be distracted as well as distract ::: 3d objekts. lighting. cameras. textures. fog. shaders. renderers. quaternions. - as well dekonstrukt \ play \ display visual quicktime content films etc from the local diskdrive or internet directly on 3d objekts. - as well traverse quicktime vr content from the local disk drive or internet directly on 3d objekts - as well paint on m[!\|a]cromedia flash content + map flash data directly on 3d objekts - as well dekonstrukt 3d data directly on the macintosh desktop 4 1 ultra anti.model citizen routine. - as well la as well - as split individual film tracks into multiple 2d or 3d displays. as well - as ___... incorporate nato.0+55 audio.video.routines simultaneously as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots as well - as ___... construct autonomous + delinquent mu[l]temedia net bots - in other words - bandw!dth ag!taz!on++ _\- nato.macht.fre! 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Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12655; 10 Jul 99 23:45 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1135ra-00051X-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:44:55 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA14771); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:43:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:42:58 +0100 Received: from ella.mills.edu [144.91.3.20] by hermes via SMTP (XAA14086); Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:42:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1672125 invoked by uid 1964); 10 Jul 1999 15:42:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt J. Ingalls" To: richard bowers cc: Richard Dobson , csound csound Subject: Re: Audio file lengths In-Reply-To: <001101becadc$2982b3c0$9e3d883e@internetpc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > A second thought about Richard Dobson's suggestions (below) is that I, > personally, would find the option of an independent 'sndinfo' opcode it should be easy enough to convert sndinfo into an opcode- i could see either one opcode with a bunch of outputs or a bunch of opcodes with one output. i could make these if noone else is... -matt Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12858; 11 Jul 99 1:29 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1137Uo-0003St-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:29:30 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (BAA09923); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:24:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:24:07 +0100 Received: from grynet.passagen.se [195.163.107.36] by hermes via ESMTP (BAA02897); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:24:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from dumburk (z2-1-105.sbbs2.net [212.112.1.105]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA09605 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:24:04 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: <3787E52F.369F@hem.passagen.se> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:28:31 +0200 From: rasmus ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list Subject: Re: error in consound References: <3786EB6F.D30EE69C@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk pete moss wrote: > > when i run the score below, i crash the win98 console version of > csound. when i run it in gabriels direct csound, if runs fine. It runs fine in Csound console version 3.55 (Jun 20 1999) on a Windows 95 machine. I changed the output file name though (nonexistent directory makes Csound die with an error message). The output however contains some rather uninformative error messages: ------------- snip ---------------- STARTING FILE unknown command : Creating options unknown command : Creating orchestra Creating \s3vv2gjj.orc (00477938) unknown command : Creating score unknown command : orch compiler: 112 lines read ------------- snip ---------------- >From the "orch compiler" line on, everything looks normal. re Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13379; 11 Jul 99 7:13 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113Cr6-0005ET-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:12:52 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (HAA01273); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:11:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:11:00 +0100 Received: from ares.flash.net [209.30.0.41] by hermes via ESMTP (HAA08418); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:10:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from bigfoot.com (p233-50.atnt1.dialup.ftw1.flash.net [209.30.233.50]) by ares.flash.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13056 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:10:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37883584.215AB71B@bigfoot.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:11:16 -0500 From: pete moss Organization: pete moss GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: error in consound References: <3786EB6F.D30EE69C@bigfoot.com> <3787E52F.369F@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk this is the version i am using too. it compiles everything else fine. it just crashes on this piece. always the same error. just to be safe i d/l this version from bath several times. still the same error. always a page fault on this file but no others. weird. glad i have multiple versions of csound on my machine! :P rasmus ekman wrote: > > pete moss wrote: > > > > when i run the score below, i crash the win98 console version of > > csound. when i run it in gabriels direct csound, if runs fine. > > It runs fine in Csound console version 3.55 (Jun 20 1999) > on a Windows 95 machine. I changed the output file name > though (nonexistent directory makes Csound die with an error > message). The output however contains some rather uninformative > error messages: > > ------------- snip ---------------- > STARTING FILE > unknown command : > > Creating options > unknown command : > > Creating orchestra > Creating \s3vv2gjj.orc (00477938) > unknown command : > > Creating score > unknown command : > > orch compiler: > 112 lines read > > ------------- snip ---------------- > > >From the "orch compiler" line on, everything > looks normal. > > re Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13445; 11 Jul 99 8:25 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113DyR-0005Et-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:24:31 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA05900); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:22:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:22:32 +0100 Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA04522); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:22:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from agora.stm.it (rm1-1088.tiscalinet.it [212.123.81.200]) by agora.stm.it (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17807 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:22:29 +0200 (ITADST) Message-ID: <378787C5.B50B7837@agora.stm.it> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:49:57 +0200 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound csound Subject: Re: soundout/fout: writing to different files for each time instrument is called?? References: <000901becadb$05b74ce0$9e3d883e@internetpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At present time an 'fclose' opcode doesn't exist yet. So, each time a new file is created, it will be written continuously up the end of Csound session. However now it is possible to pass string arguments by the score, so it is possible to write more file, opening them at different times. It is not good for realtime performances. Also, a string manipulation opcode doesn't exist, so the filenames must be already defined by the user as string constants at the orc/sco design time. So, for now, you have to do this task manually, editing the wave files generated afer the realtime session by means of a wave editor (such as Cool Edit). -- Gabriel Maldonado http://web.tiscalinet.it/G-Maldonado/home2.htm richard bowers wrote: > > Can anyone help? This is what I want to do: > > Write different soundfiles using one soundout each time the instrument is > called from the score ie: > > score: > i1 0 10 > i1 0 5 > i1 2 10 > etc. > > resulting in (say) sound1.wav, sound2.wav, sound3.wav and so on. > > I would like to do it without specifying the names in advance but just to > have an incremental numbering system. This is because, ultimately, I would > like to do it > (using the DirectCsound fout opcode) in a realtime MIDI setup. > > Subsequently, I would need to apply the same principle to the soundin/diskin > ugs for retrieving the files. > > Thanks in advance. > Richard Bowers. Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13638; 11 Jul 99 11:48 BST Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113H9y-0003eH-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:48:38 +0100 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (LAA05566); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:46:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:46:25 +0100 Received: from [199.203.20.14] by hermes via ESMTP (LAA03609); Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:46:22 +0100 (BST) Received: by SHORE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:45:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: Oded Streigold To: "'csound@maths.ex.ac.uk'" Subject: DSP Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:45:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi! What would be the best approche to developing new DSP effects, with minimal 'inventing the weel' and maximum flexability? Is CSound a good tool for that? Or maybe using the c source of csound to built new opcodes? Thanx, Oded.