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After renewed discussions with Aleck Brinkman I am pleased to be able to
announce that executable versions of Brinkman's Csound score file
generator/pre-processor SCORE11 for several *nix and Mac platforms will be made
available for free downloading from the Eastman Computer Music Center web
site within the next few weeks.
Our ECMC staff currently is in the midst of extensive hardware and software
upgrades to three studios, and we simply cannot tend to this score11 project
immediately. I will post to this list with the URLs when these packages
are installed and ready for downloading. Here's our projected timetable:
(1) Executable binaries of score11 for Linux, SGI and (for any still using
the lumbering but indestructable black tanks) NeXT Step/Openstep
Projected availability date: around October 22
(2) Manual documentation in ascii text, roff and postscript versions
Projected availability date: around the end of October; (pdf and/or html
versions may follow if one if someone here finds the time)
The manual, while serviceable, is not in great shape and we will not have
the time to clean it up or provide tech support.
(3) Mac GUI executable
Projected availability date: sometime in November
Currently the Mac version is somewhat less robust and will require a
tune-up, and we've moved off the Mac platform for most musical projects
at least temporarily until OS X Workstation becomes available (Please,
no flames -- we have many Mac friends)
(4) Rather didactic, tutorial-level score11 input and output (.sco) files
already are available within my Eastman Csound Tutorial
http://www.esm.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/allan.cs/index.html
Additionally, if and when time permits, I hope to be able to post to our site
my Eastman Csound Library of instrument algorithms, each with several
companion example score11 files, including some more sophisticated procedures
There are no immediate plans for a Windows port, although eventually we intend
to run score11 on our NT systems, and hope to provide an NT/2000 version some
time in the future.
Again, I will post to this list when these files are available. Please do
not email me with entreaties for open source, BE, Solaris, Windows or other
ports -- this is the arrangement that Brinkman prefers for now. An unauthorized,
butchered and buggy Windows hack of score11 that was floating about a few years
ago, about which Brinkman was very unhappy, should not be used.
With Brinkman's blessing Jim Croson, formerly on the ECMC staff and now at
Stetson University, **may** undertake a *nix (and, perhaps eventually,
cross-platform) "score12" update at some future time, when his own tsunami
workload subsides.
Members of this list can thank the two posters below, whose queries prompted
renewed discussions (which have been going on for years) resulting in these
forthcoming releases. However, as one who has used score11 extensively since
the days of music11, including advanced features not immediately obvious in
the documentation, I would simply note my puzzlement at the dismissive "quick
and dirty," "old things" reference below. Compared with my experiences with
just about every other major, current Li/Unix, Mac and Windows music application
I would strongly demur. But let's all make music with whatever tools
individually suit us best.
*********************************************
* Allan Schindler *
* Director, Eastman Computer Music Center *
* Email : allan@esm.rochester.edu *
* Voice : (716) 274 1575 *
* FAX : 716 274 1088 *
*********************************************
> Forwarded message from Charles Baker (baker.vip.best.com) : Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:20:05
> Well, yes...but the issue is if we can convince A. Brinkman (of Eastman
> School of Music)
> to release the source: which he has not done, to my knowlege, although many
> people have expressed our interest in the program. I there are any
> Eastman-ites on the list: *please* plead with Mr. Brinkman: we could use
> that code!
>
> Always living in hope,
> Char lieB
>
> merz foobar wrote:
>
> >
> > actually linux is a source of hope for
> > Score11 since it originally ran under several
> > different flavors of BSD Unix. I imagine that
> > for someone with the source code and a Pascal
> > compilier it would be easy to port. I keep
> > hoping that the emergence of linux will give new
> > life to some of the old UNIX tools. Since the
> > SGI is a bust outside of academia. with linux
> > you get all the old goodies (that i miss on the mac)
> > like all the shell scripting, etc.
> > (the only people who think that apple script
> > is cool are those who never used UNIX i bet).
> >
> > Anyway, now i am hooked on SuperCollider so...
> > But it would be nice to be able to use Score11
> > for some old things. As i said Score11 was
> > real good for quick and dirty.
> >
> > Java is a good sugestion, but not much different
> > than hacking C code.
> >
> > I was hoping for something that that let you
> > ignore var declaration, etc. like Cshell
> > or perl. TKl/TK is an option i guess, but
> > it is not so elegant on the macos.
> >
> > back to SuperCollider....
> >
> > --
> >
> > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:56:25 Jim Stevenson wrote:
> > >Would that program and those scripts work under linux?
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> >
> > Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com
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Subject: clicking
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I am new to csound, and I have been having problems eliminating clicking =
when a sound ends. I have used 'linen', but the problem persists. =
It sounds as if the sound never quite gets to 0 dbs, and consequently =
produces a click.
Help?!
Chad
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Create a special damping envelope whose only job is removing clicks:
idampattack = .003
idamprelease = .005
iduration = p3
p3 = iduration + idampattack + idamprelease
adamping linseg 0.0, idampattack, 1.0, iduration, 1.0, idamprelease, 0.0
out asignal * adamping
Almost all my instruments have these. You adjust idampattack and
idamprelease to suit the instrument. This is NOT the main envelope. Because
it is arate it will help with ksmps laddering. This technique absolutely
ensures that the sound begins and ends at 0.0.
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Subject: clicking
I am new to csound, and I have been having problems eliminating clicking
when a sound ends. I have used 'linen', but the problem persists.
It sounds as if the sound never quite gets to 0 dbs, and consequently
produces a click.
Help?!
Chad
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> Create a special damping envelope whose only job is removing clicks:
>
Rubs me the wrong way. A click is usually a design flaw, or
a flaw in a sample. I advise to find the click, and squash it.
Else it is like using condom.
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when is it going to be available?
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You Rock!
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Tobiah
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:58 PM
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>
> >
> > Create a special damping envelope whose only job is removing clicks:
> >
> Rubs me the wrong way. A click is usually a design flaw, or
> a flaw in a sample. I advise to find the click, and squash it.
> Else it is like using condom.
>
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Mr. Schindler
Ah, you simply misunderstood:
As for "old things" i meant *my* old stuff that i
used music11 and score11 for. I wasn't calling
score11 an old thing. Though you really couldn't
say that it is recent either! ;)
As for "quick and dirty" I wasn't calling score11
quick and dirty in it's implementation, i was
saying that you could spit out a Csound score
quickly with it since its learning curve was not
so steep and you didn't have to declare variables
and the like as you do if you use C or some other
language. That you could do more sophisticated
things as well is also obvious to anyone who ever
used it.
My comments were not meant as a put-down of
score11 at any level. The fact that i still have
a call for it and a desire to use it should make
that clear. On the contrary score11 is a
wonderful program that is versatile and easy to
use. And despite it's smallish size flexible
and powerful.
I am *extremely* happy to hear that it is not dead
code, but that there is an interest and
willingness to make the program available again.
My thanks to Mr. Brinkman and his colleagues for
their efforts. I look forward to being able to
execute score11 scripts on my Mac soon (as my NeXT
is boxed up in the US right now).
everything everbest,
kevin parks
Seoul Korea
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what's not to like about clicks?
tolve
>>
>> Create a special damping envelope whose only job is removing clicks:
>>
>Rubs me the wrong way. A click is usually a design flaw, or
>a flaw in a sample. I advise to find the click, and squash it.
>Else it is like using condom.
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for those of us purposely using extreme clicks in our music: any
parameters, tests, non-obtrusive click maintaining filter ideas, whatever,
suggested to avoid transients so sharp as to threaten speakers?
as i have been using waves L1 ultramaximizer (excellent multiband limiter)
to squash some of the dynamic range to allow actors to be heard in theater,
i imagine my clicks are somewhat safer than they would otherwise be
-especially if the volume of playback is brought down a bit to allow for
high average volumes (a characteristic shared by other more mainstream
musical styles). but transients will be transients.
and digital ceiling not really a useful concept for those of us generating
noise purposefully and digitally -now is it.
tolve
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Hi,
By poplular request I added a zip version of the magazine available from a
link on the back issues page. I'm not sure if this will help with printing
though. Landscape printing seems to work.
Bye,
Hans Mikelson
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