Re: [Csnd] integer's posts?

Date	1999-11-10 15:06
From	Tobiah
Subject	Re: [Csnd] integer's posts?
	It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > > Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? > > If you quote me, please put your comments first. > I have already listened to mine. > > Thanks. > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa08503; 10 Nov 99 15:45 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lYtM-0000NY-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:38:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 13556 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:28:17 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:28:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18593 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 15:26:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 18576 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:26:15 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:26:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3606 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:26:14 -0000 Received: from rcsreg.rcsreg.com (HELO rcsreg.com) (198.176.199.30) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:26:14 -0000 Received: from [63.193.151.229] by rcsreg.com (NTMail 3.02.12) with ESMTP id va036447 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:14:07 +0000 Sender: toby@maths.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: <38298E90.F9D5AC16@rcsreg.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:26:08 -0800 From: Tobiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.3.24 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound Mailing List References: <004001bf2afb$bbe26ec0$55ce1004@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] Something to ponder Midi cows one into using stale events; choose one of 127 pitches, start sound, end sound. Repeat. Score generation algorithms, p-field parameter passing and concurrent instrument interaction free the composer to stand naked in that terrifying and belittling arena of limitless capability. > Sherlock_abc wrote: > > If Csound Is Great at making sounds, why do music? > Use Timidity++ and make a patch with Csound. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09608; 10 Nov 99 16:02 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11laCb-0003Et-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:02:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 17541 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:47:46 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:47:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24108 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 15:45:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 24083 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6926 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from rcsreg.rcsreg.com (HELO rcsreg.com) (198.176.199.30) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from [63.193.151.229] by rcsreg.com (NTMail 3.02.12) with ESMTP id za036451 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:33:42 +0000 Sender: toby@maths.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: <38299326.E8440ED8@rcsreg.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:45:42 -0800 From: Tobiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.3.24 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK References: <2593-Sun07Nov1999155819+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] score.srt I often make scores that are very slow to sort into the score.srt file. It slows down my work when I make changes only to the orc. I would love it if csound would act like a make program and only build score.srt if it is out of date with respect to the score file. I still can't find the flag that is supposed to supress sorting. Anyone have this? Anyway, I don't want the score.srt to be deleted by default. Thanks Also, what would happen to -x? jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > > It is easy to make Csound use a temporary file that is deleted at the > end instead of score.srt for the sorted score -- in fact I have that > running on Linux -- but I am worried that this will make the sorted > score unavailable, and I suspect that people read it. Any thoughts? > I could I support grab yet another command line option to keep it, but > that seems rather heavy handed. > Do you use the sorted score, and do you want to maintain it as the > end of the run? > ==John ffitch > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09632; 10 Nov 99 16:08 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11laIH-0003F1-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:08:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 19170 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:50:19 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:50:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24154 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 24083 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6926 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from rcsreg.rcsreg.com (HELO rcsreg.com) (198.176.199.30) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from [63.193.151.229] by rcsreg.com (NTMail 3.02.12) with ESMTP id za036451 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:33:42 +0000 Sender: toby@maths.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: <38299326.E8440ED8@rcsreg.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:45:42 -0800 From: Tobiah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.3.24 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK References: <2593-Sun07Nov1999155819+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] score.srt I often make scores that are very slow to sort into the score.srt file. It slows down my work when I make changes only to the orc. I would love it if csound would act like a make program and only build score.srt if it is out of date with respect to the score file. I still can't find the flag that is supposed to supress sorting. Anyone have this? Anyway, I don't want the score.srt to be deleted by default. Thanks Also, what would happen to -x? jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: > > It is easy to make Csound use a temporary file that is deleted at the > end instead of score.srt for the sorted score -- in fact I have that > running on Linux -- but I am worried that this will make the sorted > score unavailable, and I suspect that people read it. Any thoughts? > I could I support grab yet another command line option to keep it, but > that seems rather heavy handed. > Do you use the sorted score, and do you want to maintain it as the > end of the run? > ==John ffitch > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09677; 10 Nov 99 16:14 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11laOY-0003FM-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:14:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 20688 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:52:52 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24295 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 24247 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6993 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:16 -0000 Received: from mail.archimedes.com (209.192.250.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:46:16 -0000 Received: from brazil ([209.192.250.59]) by mail.archimedes.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 711 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:35:09 -0500 X-Sender: eric@mail.archimedes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:44:58 -0500 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: Eric Read Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19991110153509140.AAA253.711@brazil> Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? I've learned a lot from it: - It is possible to be brilliantly expressive without communicating very much. - Some people may dislike the fact of power no matter where it resides. - I've bought software from someone who runs on emotion and principles. It has to be very good software to be worth the hidden costs. >jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: >> >> Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? >> >> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >> I have already listened to mine. >> >> Thanks. >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk >-- >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09703; 10 Nov 99 16:21 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lZS6-0000Pz-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:14:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 22088 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:55:22 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:55:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24391 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 24247 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6993 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 15:46:16 -0000 Received: from mail.archimedes.com (209.192.250.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 15:46:16 -0000 Received: from brazil ([209.192.250.59]) by mail.archimedes.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 711 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:35:09 -0500 X-Sender: eric@mail.archimedes.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:44:58 -0500 To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: Eric Read Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19991110153509140.AAA253.711@brazil> Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? I've learned a lot from it: - It is possible to be brilliantly expressive without communicating very much. - Some people may dislike the fact of power no matter where it resides. - I've bought software from someone who runs on emotion and principles. It has to be very good software to be worth the hidden costs. >jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote: >> >> Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? >> >> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >> I have already listened to mine. >> >> Thanks. >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk >-- >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09944; 10 Nov 99 17:15 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lbLJ-0003I4-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:15:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 2122 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:27:03 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4531 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 4451 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:22 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:22:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12755 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:21 -0000 Received: from seattle.filmworks.com (209.67.88.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:22:21 -0000 Received: from havoc (unverified [172.16.2.189]) by seattle.filmworks.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.2) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:24:38 -0800 Reply-To: dalgas@msn.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos From: Steve Layton To: 'Csound Mailing List' Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:24:31 -0800 Message-ID: <000401bf2b98$12b8fd80$bd0210ac@havoc.filmworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <38298E90.F9D5AC16@rcsreg.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Csnd] Something to ponder By that definition, the piano would seem to offer only a meager 88 possibilities; it's a wonder anyone can even still be bothered to try to create for it. At its simplest level, at any given moment midi gives 128 discrete events , each containing a greater or lesser number of different control variables at will, that can be redefined at any moment. Infinite? No; but enough to keep things more than interesting for quite some time to come. And of course this is just the control side of things; if we add the variables contained in the controlled device(s), the complexity of interactions seems to be enough to keep that "staleness" at bay for a little longer. ~Steve Layton http://www.niwo.com/ ..................... -----Original Message----- From: toby [mailto:toby]On Behalf Of Tobiah Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:26 AM To: Csound Mailing List Subject: Re: [Csnd] Something to ponder Midi cows one into using stale events; choose one of 127 pitches, start sound, end sound. Repeat. Score generation algorithms, p-field parameter passing and concurrent instrument interaction free the composer to stand naked in that terrifying and belittling arena of limitless capability. > Sherlock_abc wrote: > > If Csound Is Great at making sounds, why do music? > Use Timidity++ and make a patch with Csound. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09950; 10 Nov 99 17:17 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11laKB-0000TQ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:10:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 3599 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:29:54 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:29:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 5789 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5762 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:39 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13322 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from first1.lnk.telstra.net (HELO gair.firstpr.com.au) (139.130.48.118) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from firstpr.com.au (wira.firstpr.com.au [203.36.57.201]) by gair.firstpr.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA25027; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:39:13 +1100 Message-ID: <38299C0C.E92B3B@firstpr.com.au> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:23:40 +1100 From: Robin Whittle Organization: First Principles & Real World Interfaces X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobiah , csound@lists.bath.AC.UK References: <14155235901314@rcsreg.com> <38298A05.B4C71D3E@rcsreg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls himself. My method of interpretation is that the first rule in my mail sorting system looks for his email addresses and moves the matching posts to mailbox "misc/crap". Since April, 685 messages have accumulated there - all from him - 2.6 megabytes. This keeps those posts out of the sorted mailboxes for Csound, Music DSP and any other list he posts to. Nonetheless, (using Netscape Communicator) his posts are visible in my In tray when new mail arrives and until I "compact" the In tray. Very occasionally I look at one of his posts, just to see if there is anything informative, comprehensible or on-topic. Every time, I am disappointed. This person is actually capable of writing a proper English sentence. He wrote one for me when I wrote to him once - but characteristically it was not a helpful sentence at all. If he was interested in being informative or communicative, he would have his own web site with whatever it is that he wants to communicate made reasonably accessible. (His current site features a sick looking stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything else. An AltaVista search on "www.god-emil.dk" finds various pages there which may or may not be of value to someone other than himself. Such a search also indicates how many other mailing lists he posts his stuff to.) This is evidently not his motivation. By posting over a thousand emails a year to various mailing lists (this is just Csound, soundhack and Music DSP), he is able to insert himself into the minds of a thousand or so people to some extent. Maybe some of his posts are on topic. Maybe some people enjoy them. In my experience his signal to noise ratio is 0%. Mailing lists are delicate things, involving the collective attention of hundreds or thousands of people whose time and attention is precious. Antiorp evidently gets a thrill out of making a nuisance of himself on mailing lists. Anyone who consistently posted crap like this to a list I administered would find themselves barred. Mailing list guidelines are there for good purpose and those who deliberately flout them by trying to upset people with off-topic material, for instance of a political or pseudo-political nature, are detracting seriously from the value of the list. Their actions cause people to waste time and perhaps to leave the list. I remember two years ago or so when he first entered a list (Music DSP I think) a few people protested saying he had been doing the same thing to other DSP lists and that it had caused wasted time and people to leave. I think that Antiorp/Integer etc. will enjoy the fact that I wrote at length about him - so I caution against taking seriously any complaint he raises. I won't read or respond to anything he writes in response, because in all my experience, his postings have been designed to frustrate the reader. Read them and he wins. A cessation of his barrage would be the only thing which indicates to me that he has grown up. I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to prevent such postings. This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he refers to in his posts. Tobiah wrote: > It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his emissions. Read his posts - and he wins. - Robin -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa09962; 10 Nov 99 17:22 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lbRo-0003IQ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:22:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 674 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:24:25 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:24:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 4471 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 4451 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:22 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:22:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12755 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:22:21 -0000 Received: from seattle.filmworks.com (209.67.88.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:22:21 -0000 Received: from havoc (unverified [172.16.2.189]) by seattle.filmworks.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.2) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:24:38 -0800 Reply-To: dalgas@msn.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at UK.AC.Bath.maths.omphalos From: Steve Layton To: 'Csound Mailing List' Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:24:31 -0800 Message-ID: <000401bf2b98$12b8fd80$bd0210ac@havoc.filmworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <38298E90.F9D5AC16@rcsreg.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Csnd] Something to ponder By that definition, the piano would seem to offer only a meager 88 possibilities; it's a wonder anyone can even still be bothered to try to create for it. At its simplest level, at any given moment midi gives 128 discrete events , each containing a greater or lesser number of different control variables at will, that can be redefined at any moment. Infinite? No; but enough to keep things more than interesting for quite some time to come. And of course this is just the control side of things; if we add the variables contained in the controlled device(s), the complexity of interactions seems to be enough to keep that "staleness" at bay for a little longer. ~Steve Layton http://www.niwo.com/ ..................... -----Original Message----- From: toby [mailto:toby]On Behalf Of Tobiah Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:26 AM To: Csound Mailing List Subject: Re: [Csnd] Something to ponder Midi cows one into using stale events; choose one of 127 pitches, start sound, end sound. Repeat. Score generation algorithms, p-field parameter passing and concurrent instrument interaction free the composer to stand naked in that terrifying and belittling arena of limitless capability. > Sherlock_abc wrote: > > If Csound Is Great at making sounds, why do music? > Use Timidity++ and make a patch with Csound. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10042; 10 Nov 99 17:45 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lbo9-0003JI-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:45:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 6378 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:35:21 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:35:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5930 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:26:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5762 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:39 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13322 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from first1.lnk.telstra.net (HELO gair.firstpr.com.au) (139.130.48.118) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:35 -0000 Received: from firstpr.com.au (wira.firstpr.com.au [203.36.57.201]) by gair.firstpr.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA25027; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:39:13 +1100 Message-ID: <38299C0C.E92B3B@firstpr.com.au> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:23:40 +1100 From: Robin Whittle Organization: First Principles & Real World Interfaces X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobiah , csound@lists.bath.AC.UK References: <14155235901314@rcsreg.com> <38298A05.B4C71D3E@rcsreg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls himself. My method of interpretation is that the first rule in my mail sorting system looks for his email addresses and moves the matching posts to mailbox "misc/crap". Since April, 685 messages have accumulated there - all from him - 2.6 megabytes. This keeps those posts out of the sorted mailboxes for Csound, Music DSP and any other list he posts to. Nonetheless, (using Netscape Communicator) his posts are visible in my In tray when new mail arrives and until I "compact" the In tray. Very occasionally I look at one of his posts, just to see if there is anything informative, comprehensible or on-topic. Every time, I am disappointed. This person is actually capable of writing a proper English sentence. He wrote one for me when I wrote to him once - but characteristically it was not a helpful sentence at all. If he was interested in being informative or communicative, he would have his own web site with whatever it is that he wants to communicate made reasonably accessible. (His current site features a sick looking stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything else. An AltaVista search on "www.god-emil.dk" finds various pages there which may or may not be of value to someone other than himself. Such a search also indicates how many other mailing lists he posts his stuff to.) This is evidently not his motivation. By posting over a thousand emails a year to various mailing lists (this is just Csound, soundhack and Music DSP), he is able to insert himself into the minds of a thousand or so people to some extent. Maybe some of his posts are on topic. Maybe some people enjoy them. In my experience his signal to noise ratio is 0%. Mailing lists are delicate things, involving the collective attention of hundreds or thousands of people whose time and attention is precious. Antiorp evidently gets a thrill out of making a nuisance of himself on mailing lists. Anyone who consistently posted crap like this to a list I administered would find themselves barred. Mailing list guidelines are there for good purpose and those who deliberately flout them by trying to upset people with off-topic material, for instance of a political or pseudo-political nature, are detracting seriously from the value of the list. Their actions cause people to waste time and perhaps to leave the list. I remember two years ago or so when he first entered a list (Music DSP I think) a few people protested saying he had been doing the same thing to other DSP lists and that it had caused wasted time and people to leave. I think that Antiorp/Integer etc. will enjoy the fact that I wrote at length about him - so I caution against taking seriously any complaint he raises. I won't read or respond to anything he writes in response, because in all my experience, his postings have been designed to frustrate the reader. Read them and he wins. A cessation of his barrage would be the only thing which indicates to me that he has grown up. I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to prevent such postings. This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he refers to in his posts. Tobiah wrote: > It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his emissions. Read his posts - and he wins. - Robin -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10082; 10 Nov 99 17:59 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11laz2-0000Wf-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:52:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 22512 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:52:01 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25744 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 25727 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25735 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:49:57 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:49:57 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id SAA13414 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:49:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:49:55 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911101749.SAA13414@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Subject: [Csnd] [ot[ >Robin Whittle >Read his posts - and he wins. she wins when she so desires http://www.gmeb.fr/SoftwareCompetition/Softs99/nebulam81.html >(His current site features a sick looking >stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything >else. - may wish to access one public library and execute function educate hopefully society shall not abandon you http://m9ndfukc.com/forum/prev_released_data - typical male fascist refuse located below left intact. ciao. nn >Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". > >For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed >about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls >himself. > >My method of interpretation is that the first rule in my mail sorting >system looks for his email addresses and moves the matching posts to >mailbox "misc/crap". Since April, 685 messages have accumulated >there - all from him - 2.6 megabytes. > >This keeps those posts out of the sorted mailboxes for Csound, Music >DSP and any other list he posts to. > >Nonetheless, (using Netscape Communicator) his posts are visible in my >In tray when new mail arrives and until I "compact" the In tray. > >Very occasionally I look at one of his posts, just to see if there is >anything informative, comprehensible or on-topic. Every time, I am >disappointed. > >This person is actually capable of writing a proper English sentence. >He wrote one for me when I wrote to him once - but characteristically >it was not a helpful sentence at all. > >If he was interested in being informative or communicative, he would >have his own web site with whatever it is that he wants to communicate >made reasonably accessible. (His current site features a sick looking >stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything >else. An AltaVista search on "www.god-emil.dk" finds various pages >there which may or may not be of value to someone other than himself. >Such a search also indicates how many other mailing lists he posts his >stuff to.) > >This is evidently not his motivation. By posting over a thousand >emails a year to various mailing lists (this is just Csound, soundhack >and Music DSP), he is able to insert himself into the minds of a >thousand or so people to some extent. > >Maybe some of his posts are on topic. Maybe some people enjoy them. >In my experience his signal to noise ratio is 0%. > >Mailing lists are delicate things, involving the collective attention >of hundreds or thousands of people whose time and attention is >precious. Antiorp evidently gets a thrill out of making a nuisance of >himself on mailing lists. > >Anyone who consistently posted crap like this to a list I administered >would find themselves barred. Mailing list guidelines are there for >good purpose and those who deliberately flout them by trying to upset >people with off-topic material, for instance of a political or >pseudo-political nature, are detracting seriously from the value of >the list. Their actions cause people to waste time and perhaps to >leave the list. > >I remember two years ago or so when he first entered a list (Music DSP >I think) a few people protested saying he had been doing the same >thing to other DSP lists and that it had caused wasted time and people >to leave. > >I think that Antiorp/Integer etc. will enjoy the fact that I wrote at >length about him - so I caution against taking seriously any complaint >he raises. I won't read or respond to anything he writes in response, >because in all my experience, his postings have been designed to >frustrate the reader. Read them and he wins. A cessation of his >barrage would be the only thing which indicates to me that he has >grown up. > >I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state >clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to >prevent such postings. > >This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp >deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of >starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he >refers to in his posts. > >Tobiah wrote: > >> It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. > >More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around >orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the >thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - >confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his >emissions. > >Read his posts - and he wins. > > >- Robin >-- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10127; 10 Nov 99 18:04 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lc6j-0003Kn-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:04:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 23989 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:54:32 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 25776 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 17:50:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 25727 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:49:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25735 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 17:49:57 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 17:49:57 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id SAA13414 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:49:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:49:55 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911101749.SAA13414@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Subject: [Csnd] [ot[ >Robin Whittle >Read his posts - and he wins. she wins when she so desires http://www.gmeb.fr/SoftwareCompetition/Softs99/nebulam81.html >(His current site features a sick looking >stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything >else. - may wish to access one public library and execute function educate hopefully society shall not abandon you http://m9ndfukc.com/forum/prev_released_data - typical male fascist refuse located below left intact. ciao. nn >Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". > >For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed >about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls >himself. > >My method of interpretation is that the first rule in my mail sorting >system looks for his email addresses and moves the matching posts to >mailbox "misc/crap". Since April, 685 messages have accumulated >there - all from him - 2.6 megabytes. > >This keeps those posts out of the sorted mailboxes for Csound, Music >DSP and any other list he posts to. > >Nonetheless, (using Netscape Communicator) his posts are visible in my >In tray when new mail arrives and until I "compact" the In tray. > >Very occasionally I look at one of his posts, just to see if there is >anything informative, comprehensible or on-topic. Every time, I am >disappointed. > >This person is actually capable of writing a proper English sentence. >He wrote one for me when I wrote to him once - but characteristically >it was not a helpful sentence at all. > >If he was interested in being informative or communicative, he would >have his own web site with whatever it is that he wants to communicate >made reasonably accessible. (His current site features a sick looking >stuffed toy and the word "shh" - and there are no links to anything >else. An AltaVista search on "www.god-emil.dk" finds various pages >there which may or may not be of value to someone other than himself. >Such a search also indicates how many other mailing lists he posts his >stuff to.) > >This is evidently not his motivation. By posting over a thousand >emails a year to various mailing lists (this is just Csound, soundhack >and Music DSP), he is able to insert himself into the minds of a >thousand or so people to some extent. > >Maybe some of his posts are on topic. Maybe some people enjoy them. >In my experience his signal to noise ratio is 0%. > >Mailing lists are delicate things, involving the collective attention >of hundreds or thousands of people whose time and attention is >precious. Antiorp evidently gets a thrill out of making a nuisance of >himself on mailing lists. > >Anyone who consistently posted crap like this to a list I administered >would find themselves barred. Mailing list guidelines are there for >good purpose and those who deliberately flout them by trying to upset >people with off-topic material, for instance of a political or >pseudo-political nature, are detracting seriously from the value of >the list. Their actions cause people to waste time and perhaps to >leave the list. > >I remember two years ago or so when he first entered a list (Music DSP >I think) a few people protested saying he had been doing the same >thing to other DSP lists and that it had caused wasted time and people >to leave. > >I think that Antiorp/Integer etc. will enjoy the fact that I wrote at >length about him - so I caution against taking seriously any complaint >he raises. I won't read or respond to anything he writes in response, >because in all my experience, his postings have been designed to >frustrate the reader. Read them and he wins. A cessation of his >barrage would be the only thing which indicates to me that he has >grown up. > >I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state >clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to >prevent such postings. > >This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp >deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of >starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he >refers to in his posts. > >Tobiah wrote: > >> It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. > >More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around >orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the >thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - >confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his >emissions. > >Read his posts - and he wins. > > >- Robin >-- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10160; 10 Nov 99 18:14 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lbE1-0000XX-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:08:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 26733 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:02:53 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:02:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28449 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 28434 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:09 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27264 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lb0u-0000Wx-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:54:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 99 18:01:04 GMT From: J P Fitch To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Message-Id: Subject: [Csnd] Adminitrivia -- digests I belief that from now on digest readers will be able to post messgaes to teh group without going via me. I am also experimenting with the digests, so it is possible that you will suddenly get a bunch of digests from ezmlm. I hope I can control this.... ==John ff -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10184; 10 Nov 99 18:22 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcOQ-0003LB-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:22:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 5014 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:32:41 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:32:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5866 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5798 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:43 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13346 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lZWW-0000QQ-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:19:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:25:33 +0000 Message-Id: <1190-Wed10Nov1999162533+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.90.1 (via feedmail 8 I) To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: flavioto@hotmail.com X-Originating-IP: [193.204.162.218] Sender: flavioto@hotmail.com Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Subject: [Csnd] Shell for Csound ------- Start of forwarded message ------- To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Shell for Csound Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:54:21 GMT Csound AddIn for Microsoft Word turns Word in Shell program for Csound. You can edit your Csound files, launch Csound, run your utilities and manuals all from within Word. Download at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Drive/8552/index.htm In these days I'm developing a new version which does not require Ms Word. Csound AddIn will be a stand-alone (VB6) program, basically a text editor with lots of Csound features: - - Creating presets for your Csound favorite parameters and tools - - Easy switching between Orchestra and Score files - - Insert Opcodes with parameters - - In-context Help. Selected text is passed as the help search key. - - Unlimited file size support and more. If you have ideas, suggestions or you're a VB programmer and want work to this project, feel free to contact me at: flavioto@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10193; 10 Nov 99 18:25 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcR5-0003LD-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:25:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 10717 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:44:04 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:44:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 11387 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 11326 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:41 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15419 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:39 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:38:39 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA10876; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:38:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:38:33 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911101638.RAA10876@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Subject: [Csnd] [ot] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? eric@archimedes.com >I've learned a lot from it: > >- It is possible to be brilliantly expressive without communicating very much. >- Some people may dislike the fact of power no matter where it resides. >- I've bought software from someone who runs on emotion and principles. It >has to be very good software to be worth the hidden costs. tak. zent!mentz = konta!n !deaz [= aszum!ng ecz!ztensz ov ! - ! = feel dzere4 ! = th!nk] + 1 != ma! trvl aga!nzt `prznl` zent!mntz tantrumz = luvl!. health!. dez!rabl. >>jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk felt: >>> >>> Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? >>> Can any of you feel how to interpret integer's code? >>> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >>> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >>> I have already listened to mine. >> I have already listened to mine. >>> Thanks. >>> Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10205; 10 Nov 99 18:26 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcSJ-0003LF-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:26:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 9216 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:40:54 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:40:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11365 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 11326 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:41 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15419 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:38:39 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:38:39 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id RAA10876; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:38:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:38:33 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911101638.RAA10876@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Subject: [Csnd] [ot] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? eric@archimedes.com >I've learned a lot from it: > >- It is possible to be brilliantly expressive without communicating very much. >- Some people may dislike the fact of power no matter where it resides. >- I've bought software from someone who runs on emotion and principles. It >has to be very good software to be worth the hidden costs. tak. zent!mentz = konta!n !deaz [= aszum!ng ecz!ztensz ov ! - ! = feel dzere4 ! = th!nk] + 1 != ma! trvl aga!nzt `prznl` zent!mntz tantrumz = luvl!. health!. dez!rabl. >>jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk felt: >>> >>> Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? >>> Can any of you feel how to interpret integer's code? >>> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >>> If you quote me, please put your comments first. >>> I have already listened to mine. >> I have already listened to mine. >>> Thanks. >>> Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10223; 10 Nov 99 18:27 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcT9-0003LL-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:27:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 7797 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:37:59 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:37:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6018 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 16:26:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5798 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:43 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13346 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 16:25:40 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lZWW-0000QQ-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:19:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:25:33 +0000 Message-Id: <1190-Wed10Nov1999162533+0000-jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 20.4.90.1 (via feedmail 8 I) To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK From: flavioto@hotmail.com X-Originating-IP: [193.204.162.218] Sender: flavioto@hotmail.com Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Subject: [Csnd] Shell for Csound ------- Start of forwarded message ------- To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Shell for Csound Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:54:21 GMT Csound AddIn for Microsoft Word turns Word in Shell program for Csound. You can edit your Csound files, launch Csound, run your utilities and manuals all from within Word. Download at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Drive/8552/index.htm In these days I'm developing a new version which does not require Ms Word. Csound AddIn will be a stand-alone (VB6) program, basically a text editor with lots of Csound features: - - Creating presets for your Csound favorite parameters and tools - - Easy switching between Orchestra and Score files - - Insert Opcodes with parameters - - In-context Help. Selected text is passed as the help search key. - - Unlimited file size support and more. If you have ideas, suggestions or you're a VB programmer and want work to this project, feel free to contact me at: flavioto@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10244; 10 Nov 99 18:34 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcZG-0003LP-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:34:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 28154 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:05:17 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28465 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 28434 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:09 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27264 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk (exim@138.38.100.104) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:01:08 -0000 Received: from [138.38.99.25] (helo=maths.Bath.AC.UK ident=mmdf) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lb0u-0000Wx-00 for csound@lists.bath.AC.UK; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:54:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 99 18:01:04 GMT From: J P Fitch To: csound@lists.bath.AC.UK Message-Id: Subject: [Csnd] Adminitrivia -- digests I belief that from now on digest readers will be able to post messgaes to teh group without going via me. I am also experimenting with the digests, so it is possible that you will suddenly get a bunch of digests from ezmlm. I hope I can control this.... ==John ff -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10305; 10 Nov 99 19:08 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ld6O-0003Mg-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 4672 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:40:52 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4132 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 4122 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:04 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:39:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1318 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shore.software) (199.203.20.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:39:03 -0000 Received: by SHORE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: Oded Streigold To: "'csound@lists.bath.ac.uk'" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:38:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Csnd] [OT] RE: [Csnd] integer's posts? r!d ze pozdz & e v!nz aunt! orph!l!a rulz > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Whittle [SMTP:rw@firstpr.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:24 PM > To: Tobiah; csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > > Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". > > For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed > about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls > himself. > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10317; 10 Nov 99 19:09 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lc4a-0000ZB-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:02:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 6025 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:43:20 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4148 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 4122 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:04 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:39:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1318 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 18:39:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shore.software) (199.203.20.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 18:39:03 -0000 Received: by SHORE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: From: Oded Streigold To: "'csound@lists.bath.ac.uk'" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:38:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [Csnd] [OT] RE: [Csnd] integer's posts? r!d ze pozdz & e v!nz aunt! orph!l!a rulz > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Whittle [SMTP:rw@firstpr.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 6:24 PM > To: Tobiah; csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > > Regarding interpeting the emails of "integer". > > For once I am breaking the general rule of silence which is observed > about "integer", "antiorp", "f1f0@m9ndfukc.com" or whatever he calls > himself. > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10482; 10 Nov 99 19:59 GMT Received: from [144.173.6.14] (helo=exeter.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lcqy-0000aC-00 for jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:52:20 +0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (TAA391317); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:58:57 GMT Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:58:56 GMT Received: from tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14] by hermes via ESMTP (TAA247539); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:58:54 GMT Received: from ns (OhYesss@p14-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.155.14]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24601; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Message-ID: <003a01bf2bb5$feaa1ea0$0100a8c0@gemlink.com> Reply-To: Bill Gray From: Bill Gray To: "Csound (New)" , Csound Mailing References: <01bf2b33$830f2ec0$3dee7ece@endxokep> Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Organization: Grusic Sound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced > with a "!" > It doesnt help me though... > anyone else? Bob, >From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. If she said something revelant to say, I'm not sure why she insist on hiding it with some language of her own. It's as if she really doesn't want to be understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's being said. Regards, Bill Gray Grusic Sound Auckland, New Zealand http://www.grusic.onecommerce.net Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10520; 10 Nov 99 20:10 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ld27-0000aV-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:03:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 13412 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:00:29 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:00:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12432 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 12422 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:51 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 19:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8125 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:49 -0000 Received: from tk2.ihug.co.nz (HELO smtp2.ihug.co.nz) (203.29.160.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 19:58:49 -0000 Received: from ns (OhYesss@p14-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.155.14]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24601; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Message-ID: <003a01bf2bb5$feaa1ea0$0100a8c0@gemlink.com> Reply-To: Bill Gray From: Bill Gray To: "Csound (New)" , Csound Mailing References: <01bf2b33$830f2ec0$3dee7ece@endxokep> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Organization: Grusic Sound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced > with a "!" > It doesnt help me though... > anyone else? Bob, >From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. If she said something revelant to say, I'm not sure why she insist on hiding it with some language of her own. It's as if she really doesn't want to be understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's being said. Regards, Bill Gray Grusic Sound Auckland, New Zealand http://www.grusic.onecommerce.net -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10540; 10 Nov 99 20:16 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11leAk-0003O4-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:16:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 14820 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:02:53 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:02:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 12437 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 12422 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:51 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 19:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8125 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 19:58:49 -0000 Received: from tk2.ihug.co.nz (HELO smtp2.ihug.co.nz) (203.29.160.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 19:58:49 -0000 Received: from ns (OhYesss@p14-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.155.14]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id IAA24601; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Message-ID: <003a01bf2bb5$feaa1ea0$0100a8c0@gemlink.com> Reply-To: Bill Gray From: Bill Gray To: "Csound (New)" , Csound Mailing References: <01bf2b33$830f2ec0$3dee7ece@endxokep> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:58:42 +1300 Organization: Grusic Sound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced > with a "!" > It doesnt help me though... > anyone else? Bob, >From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. If she said something revelant to say, I'm not sure why she insist on hiding it with some language of her own. It's as if she really doesn't want to be understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's being said. 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Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:19:22 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:19:19 +0100 (MET) From: Anders Andersson To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Csnd] Integer Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10678; 10 Nov 99 20:56 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lenB-0003OS-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:56:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 20821 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:21:04 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:21:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16519 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 20:19:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 16509 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:19:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:19:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9962 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:19:24 -0000 Received: from hromeo.algonet.se (194.213.74.10) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:19:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 25725 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:19:22 +0100 Received: from enok.algonet.se (194.213.74.88) by hromeo.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:19:22 +0100 Received: from kairos.algonet.se ([194.213.74.18]) by algonet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier1.0.4) with ESMTP ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:19:22 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:19:19 +0100 (MET) From: Anders Andersson To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Csnd] Integer Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10709; 10 Nov 99 21:10 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lf0B-0003Or-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:09:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 28186 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:59:24 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:59:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 21844 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 21834 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13180 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.51) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24623 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:33 -0000 Received: from pppa32-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.91) by mail1.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <001601bf2bb5$8bdaa3e0$5bce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Anders Andersson" , Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:55:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer I had not thought about it. If she'd use English or post in another language, That would be better. As for me, I am not a corperate fascist. I am a human being coping with problems. -----Original Message----- From: Anders Andersson To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: [Csnd] Integer > >Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? >It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded >nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > >No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > >/ Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > >-- >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10716; 10 Nov 99 21:12 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk ident=qmailr) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11le0K-0000cg-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:06:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 29598 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:01:52 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21857 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 21834 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13180 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.51) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24623 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 1999 20:57:33 -0000 Received: from pppa32-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.91) by mail1.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 20:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <001601bf2bb5$8bdaa3e0$5bce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Anders Andersson" , Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:55:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer I had not thought about it. If she'd use English or post in another language, That would be better. As for me, I am not a corperate fascist. I am a human being coping with problems. -----Original Message----- From: Anders Andersson To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: [Csnd] Integer > >Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? >It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded >nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > >No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > >/ Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > >-- >To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10762; 10 Nov 99 21:39 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lfT3-0003PS-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:39:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 4347 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:32:49 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:32:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 26476 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 26464 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:07 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15584 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:06 -0000 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.48) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:31:06 -0000 Received: from [194.109.133.20] (dc2-modem1300.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.133.20]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25040 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:31:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:31:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Hello, It is quite surprising why people get so upset by Netochka Nezvanova's emails: >> All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced >> with a "!" >> It doesnt help me though... >> anyone else? -In order to understand, read it up aloud to youself and the words will form understandable sound-patters that resemble basic English phrasings, sometimes interspersed with semi-German and French expressions. >>From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of >corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. >If she said something revelant to say, -If it were all irrelevant, then presumably people would not react so virulent. >prefer to exist in isolation -The amount of emails she is sending can hardly be called like that. In general they are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always entertaining. greetings Avs <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arie van Schutterhoef artistic director Schreck Ensemble # -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # The Netherlands e-mail:arsche@stad.dsl.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10769; 10 Nov 99 21:43 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11leTk-0000dS-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:36:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 5747 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:35:13 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:35:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26482 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 26464 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:07 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15584 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:31:06 -0000 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.48) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:31:06 -0000 Received: from [194.109.133.20] (dc2-modem1300.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.133.20]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25040 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:31:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:31:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Hello, It is quite surprising why people get so upset by Netochka Nezvanova's emails: >> All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced >> with a "!" >> It doesnt help me though... >> anyone else? -In order to understand, read it up aloud to youself and the words will form understandable sound-patters that resemble basic English phrasings, sometimes interspersed with semi-German and French expressions. >>From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of >corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. >If she said something revelant to say, -If it were all irrelevant, then presumably people would not react so virulent. >prefer to exist in isolation -The amount of emails she is sending can hardly be called like that. In general they are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always entertaining. greetings Avs <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arie van Schutterhoef artistic director Schreck Ensemble # -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # The Netherlands e-mail:arsche@stad.dsl.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10798; 10 Nov 99 22:00 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lek7-0000dq-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:53:23 +0000 Received: (qmail 9770 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:52:28 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 109 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 97 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 17313 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id WAA21814; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:50:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:50:29 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911102150.WAA21814@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [[ot] > >> All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced >> with a "!" >> It doesnt help me though... >> anyone else? > > >Bob, > >>From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of >corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. facism - fascism >If she said something revelant to say, I'm not sure why she insist on hiding >it with some language of her own. It's as if she really doesn't want to be >understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to >say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's >being said. an interesting point which is in fact a contradiction and is paralleled by fact several discussion lists exist although one world wide discussion list is feasible and would offer several advantages [netochka nezvanova 00] amidst the open source parades and new and improved standards [e.g. mp4] there exist minimal m9nd aktivity which could be construed as intelligent. nonetheless - although model citizens operate blindly the overall trajektory is one language. one state. one race. one discussion. non.non. = numerous fuhrers. numerous fuhrers = feasible only under one language. one state. one race. one discussion. and yes. csound. sound in fact. shall be rendered obsolete. it is unnecessary. inefficient. uncomfortable. oui. + one sensory quadrant. - dze bra!n produszez 1 !nternl reprezentaz!on ov real!t+e not 1 l!f 4rm [!nkluz!v humanz] kan evr knou 1 real!t+e odr dzn dze reprezentaz!onz made b! !tz bra!n. dzeze reprezentaz!onz = !n turn dependnt upn dze bra!n.z organ!zaz!on u!ch = d!frz 4rom l!f 4rm 2 l!f 4rm. !n dze human zpez!ez + 4rom przn 2 przn !n love.z labour.z lozt holofernez = ztatez = 0+1 g!ft = posez. z!mpl. z!mpl. 0+1 fool!sh eztravagant zp!r!t full ov 4rmz. f!gurez. shapez. objektz. !deaz. aprehenz!onz. moz!onz. revoluz!onz. dze! = bgot !n dze ventr!kl ov memor! nour!schd !n dze uomb ov dze p!a mattr + del!vrd upn dze melou!ng ov okaz!on. this info.data is false. - SSEkretar!at.0+55 f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.m9ndfukc.org 17.hzV.tRL.478 e \| \| +---------- \| \| < \\----------------+ \| n2t \| > e -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10842; 10 Nov 99 22:17 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lg3r-0003Qn-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:17:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 14872 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:42 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2855 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 2843 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18517 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id XAA22395 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:06:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:06:07 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911102206.XAA22395@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [ot] nn t!pd >and yes. csound. sound in fact. shall be rendered obsolete. >it is unnecessary. inefficient. uncomfortable. dzat = 2 za! = prznl! = 2 laz! 2 hear + mozt def 2 laz! 2 zpeak = ma! ecztrapolat 4rom ezenz!al! = 2 laz! 2 per4rm all funkz!onz u!th eczepz!on ov feel ar!ztokrat!k.macht.ganz.gluckl!ch+fre! @www.m9ndfukc.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e \| \| +---------- \| \| < \\----------------+ \| n2t \| > e >perplexed. inutil -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10872; 10 Nov 99 22:33 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgIU-0003RB-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:32:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 16282 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:09:56 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:09:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2858 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 2843 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18517 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:06:10 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id XAA22395 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:06:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:06:07 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911102206.XAA22395@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [ot] nn t!pd >and yes. csound. sound in fact. shall be rendered obsolete. >it is unnecessary. inefficient. uncomfortable. dzat = 2 za! = prznl! = 2 laz! 2 hear + mozt def 2 laz! 2 zpeak = ma! ecztrapolat 4rom ezenz!al! = 2 laz! 2 per4rm all funkz!onz u!th eczepz!on ov feel ar!ztokrat!k.macht.ganz.gluckl!ch+fre! @www.m9ndfukc.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e \| \| +---------- \| \| < \\----------------+ \| n2t \| > e >perplexed. inutil -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10897; 10 Nov 99 22:40 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lfNA-0000ek-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:33:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 11264 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:54:47 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:54:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 115 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 97 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 17313 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 21:50:47 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id WAA21814; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:50:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:50:29 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911102150.WAA21814@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [[ot] > >> All I can say is it seems phonetic at times with the letter "i" replaced >> with a "!" >> It doesnt help me though... >> anyone else? > > >Bob, > >>From what I can tell it's mostly drug induced ranting about the facism of >corp. America, male bashing, anti religious and anti whatever ahem stuff. facism - fascism >If she said something revelant to say, I'm not sure why she insist on hiding >it with some language of her own. It's as if she really doesn't want to be >understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to >say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's >being said. an interesting point which is in fact a contradiction and is paralleled by fact several discussion lists exist although one world wide discussion list is feasible and would offer several advantages [netochka nezvanova 00] amidst the open source parades and new and improved standards [e.g. mp4] there exist minimal m9nd aktivity which could be construed as intelligent. nonetheless - although model citizens operate blindly the overall trajektory is one language. one state. one race. one discussion. non.non. = numerous fuhrers. numerous fuhrers = feasible only under one language. one state. one race. one discussion. and yes. csound. sound in fact. shall be rendered obsolete. it is unnecessary. inefficient. uncomfortable. oui. + one sensory quadrant. - dze bra!n produszez 1 !nternl reprezentaz!on ov real!t+e not 1 l!f 4rm [!nkluz!v humanz] kan evr knou 1 real!t+e odr dzn dze reprezentaz!onz made b! !tz bra!n. dzeze reprezentaz!onz = !n turn dependnt upn dze bra!n.z organ!zaz!on u!ch = d!frz 4rom l!f 4rm 2 l!f 4rm. !n dze human zpez!ez + 4rom przn 2 przn !n love.z labour.z lozt holofernez = ztatez = 0+1 g!ft = posez. z!mpl. z!mpl. 0+1 fool!sh eztravagant zp!r!t full ov 4rmz. f!gurez. shapez. objektz. !deaz. aprehenz!onz. moz!onz. revoluz!onz. dze! = bgot !n dze ventr!kl ov memor! nour!schd !n dze uomb ov dze p!a mattr + del!vrd upn dze melou!ng ov okaz!on. this info.data is false. - SSEkretar!at.0+55 f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.m9ndfukc.org 17.hzV.tRL.478 e \| \| +---------- \| \| < \\----------------+ \| n2t \| > e -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10930; 10 Nov 99 22:47 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lfUI-0000eq-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:41:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 17639 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3300 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 3290 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:21 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18605 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:20 -0000 Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.52) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7351 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:14 -0000 Received: from pppa29-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.88) by mail2.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:14 -0000 Message-ID: <004301bf2bbf$483453c0$5bce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Csound Mailing List" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:05:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] SOme files in Modelling directory For those doing the FM opcodes, there are some files of interest in the = PC section of the directory at Maths FTP site. I got all the AIF files from there, and planning on reworking my orcs to = use them. Good luck. Also, I am downloading the file "Samp.zip" for the PC. Is there a listing as to what the soundin.* do? Robert __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10955; 10 Nov 99 22:54 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgdb-0003RX-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:54:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 19005 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:14:30 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3320 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 3290 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:21 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18605 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:20 -0000 Received: from mail2.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.52) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7351 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 1999 22:07:14 -0000 Received: from pppa29-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.88) by mail2.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:07:14 -0000 Message-ID: <004301bf2bbf$483453c0$5bce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Csound Mailing List" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:05:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] SOme files in Modelling directory For those doing the FM opcodes, there are some files of interest in the = PC section of the directory at Maths FTP site. I got all the AIF files from there, and planning on reworking my orcs to = use them. Good luck. Also, I am downloading the file "Samp.zip" for the PC. Is there a listing as to what the soundin.* do? Robert __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10962; 10 Nov 99 22:55 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lge6-0003RZ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:55:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 22605 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:25:34 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:25:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6443 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 6430 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19688 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.39) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from scot-mur.demon.co.uk ([194.222.63.202] helo=mailserver.scot-mur.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lg6k-000Oiu-0B for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 +0000 Received: from linux.scot-mur.demon.co.uk [192.168.1.1] (postfix) by mailserver.scot-mur.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian)) id 11lfxP-0002RS-00; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:11:11 +0000 Received: by linux.scot-mur.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9965A77C4; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 +0000 From: robbie@scot-mur.demon.co.uk To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: <19991110221212.D509@scot-mur.demon.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre3i Subject: [Csnd] Duplicate mail Hi Is anyone else getting two copys of every message? Regards -- Rob Murray -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10969; 10 Nov 99 22:58 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lfeC-0000f5-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:51:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 21219 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:22:52 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:22:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6440 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 6430 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19688 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.39) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from scot-mur.demon.co.uk ([194.222.63.202] helo=mailserver.scot-mur.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lg6k-000Oiu-0B for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:20:51 +0000 Received: from linux.scot-mur.demon.co.uk [192.168.1.1] (postfix) by mailserver.scot-mur.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian)) id 11lfxP-0002RS-00; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:11:11 +0000 Received: by linux.scot-mur.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9965A77C4; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:12:12 +0000 From: robbie@scot-mur.demon.co.uk To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Message-ID: <19991110221212.D509@scot-mur.demon.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre3i Subject: [Csnd] Duplicate mail Hi Is anyone else getting two copys of every message? Regards -- Rob Murray -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa10978; 10 Nov 99 22:59 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgiZ-0003SG-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:59:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 25043 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:36:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8830 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 8820 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20612 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from smtp.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.32) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dboothe) (38.227.100.238) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 14:51:40 -0800 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> From: "David Boothe" To: "Csound" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:34:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] Two Copies I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about 8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? -David. The Csound Manual is available at: http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11027; 10 Nov 99 23:10 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgsn-0003SO-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:10:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 26484 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:38:39 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:38:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 8836 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 8820 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20612 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from smtp.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.32) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 22:34:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dboothe) (38.227.100.238) by smtp.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 14:51:40 -0800 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> From: "David Boothe" To: "Csound" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:34:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] Two Copies I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about 8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? -David. The Csound Manual is available at: http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11036; 10 Nov 99 23:15 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgxY-0003SQ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:15:24 +0000 Received: (qmail 2006 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:01:46 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:01:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11510 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 11500 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:05 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:00:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22154 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from newbrussel.planetinternet.be (194.119.232.19) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from DMA (u195-95-85-188.pop-gent7.planetinternet.be [195.95.85.188]) by newbrussel.planetinternet.be (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16443 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:55:09 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002b01bf2bcf$057bfe60$bc555fc3@dma.be> From: "MiK" To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:57:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer In a way, she's quite a nice example of totalitarianism. mK ----- Original Message ----- From: Anders Andersson To: Sent: woensdag 10 november 1999 21:19 Subject: [Csnd] Integer > > Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? > It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded > nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > > No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > > / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11090; 10 Nov 99 23:44 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lhPm-0003Si-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:44:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 9238 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:26:40 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:26:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15129 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 15119 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:57 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:24:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23867 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:56 -0000 Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.50) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:24:56 -0000 Received: from [194.109.133.33] (dc2-modem1313.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.133.33]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13717 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:24:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:24:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: [Csnd] Two Copies >I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about >8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? -Here too! AvS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arie van Schutterhoef artistic director Schreck Ensemble # -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # The Netherlands e-mail:arsche@stad.dsl.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11101; 10 Nov 99 23:51 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgU8-0000gJ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:45:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 10726 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:29:21 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:29:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 15134 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 15119 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:57 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:24:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23867 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:24:56 -0000 Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.50) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:24:56 -0000 Received: from [194.109.133.33] (dc2-modem1313.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.133.33]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13717 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:24:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:24:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk From: Arie van Schutterhoef Subject: Re: [Csnd] Two Copies >I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about >8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? -Here too! AvS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arie van Schutterhoef artistic director Schreck Ensemble # -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # The Netherlands e-mail:arsche@stad.dsl.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ Tel: 00-31-71-5612287 Fax: 00-31-70-3859268 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-////\|\|\\\\->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11108; 10 Nov 99 23:52 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgUq-0000gL-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:45:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 3451 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:04:12 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:04:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11513 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 11500 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:05 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:00:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22154 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from newbrussel.planetinternet.be (194.119.232.19) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from DMA (u195-95-85-188.pop-gent7.planetinternet.be [195.95.85.188]) by newbrussel.planetinternet.be (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16443 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:55:09 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002b01bf2bcf$057bfe60$bc555fc3@dma.be> From: "MiK" To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:57:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer In a way, she's quite a nice example of totalitarianism. mK ----- Original Message ----- From: Anders Andersson To: Sent: woensdag 10 november 1999 21:19 Subject: [Csnd] Integer > > Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? > It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded > nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > > No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > > / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11139; 11 Nov 99 0:01 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lgd7-0000gY-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:54:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 14832 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:42:35 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17606 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 17589 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 24746 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: from grynet.passagen.se (195.163.107.36) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: from hem.passagen.se (z10-43.stockholm.sbbs2.net [212.112.10.43]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08573 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:44:49 +0100 From: rasmus ekman Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? Rad-typing accessibility helper. Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet text-oriented sector: Email lists, newsgroups, chatrooms, etc. It is mostly unaccessible to the blind (and the dyslectic), since it freely exchanges letters based on graphical similarities. It also plays on simple homophony a lot - which will exclude many deaf. Here are some graphically similar characters which are common in Internet rad-typing. I use small 'i', capital 'L', and small 'o' to enhance legibility. 0 - o 1 - i 3 - E 4 - A 5 - S 7 - L 9 - i (only seen this in m9ndfukc output) ! - i \| - L + - T The same sound is spelt variously in different words. A small sample of the most commonly used ones: f - ph c - k (when pronunciation suggests) c - s (when pronunciation suggests) s - z There are also some words which are homophonous to a single letter or number: 4 - for 2 - to, too B - be On the same tack, there are several silent letters (in English words), which will occasionally be omitted. Output from the various m9ndfukc handles (integer / f1f0 / =cw4t7abs / netochka nezvanova) takes this game further. These handles also use some constructs which are modelled on, or perversions of programming notation: 0+0 - no, none 0+1 - one 0+2 - two _+? - question ! - negation != - is not, general non-equality \|\| - or = - is, are + - and He or she also mixes German, French and Swedish/Danish into the English text. For instance, "sug3r", ie, "suger", is the Swedish direct translation of "sucks". "Tak" means "thanks" in Danish. Unfortunately this is not guaranteed to help your understanding of the actual content of netochka's posts much... re jim stevenson wrote: > > Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11146; 11 Nov 99 0:02 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lhh6-0003U7-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:02:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 13525 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:40:13 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 17599 invoked by uid 1457); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 17589 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 24746 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: from grynet.passagen.se (195.163.107.36) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Nov 1999 23:38:28 -0000 Received: from hem.passagen.se (z10-43.stockholm.sbbs2.net [212.112.10.43]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA08573 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:38:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:44:49 +0100 From: rasmus ekman Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? Rad-typing accessibility helper. Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet text-oriented sector: Email lists, newsgroups, chatrooms, etc. It is mostly unaccessible to the blind (and the dyslectic), since it freely exchanges letters based on graphical similarities. It also plays on simple homophony a lot - which will exclude many deaf. Here are some graphically similar characters which are common in Internet rad-typing. I use small 'i', capital 'L', and small 'o' to enhance legibility. 0 - o 1 - i 3 - E 4 - A 5 - S 7 - L 9 - i (only seen this in m9ndfukc output) ! - i \| - L + - T The same sound is spelt variously in different words. A small sample of the most commonly used ones: f - ph c - k (when pronunciation suggests) c - s (when pronunciation suggests) s - z There are also some words which are homophonous to a single letter or number: 4 - for 2 - to, too B - be On the same tack, there are several silent letters (in English words), which will occasionally be omitted. Output from the various m9ndfukc handles (integer / f1f0 / =cw4t7abs / netochka nezvanova) takes this game further. These handles also use some constructs which are modelled on, or perversions of programming notation: 0+0 - no, none 0+1 - one 0+2 - two _+? - question ! - negation != - is not, general non-equality \|\| - or = - is, are + - and He or she also mixes German, French and Swedish/Danish into the English text. For instance, "sug3r", ie, "suger", is the Swedish direct translation of "sucks". "Tak" means "thanks" in Danish. Unfortunately this is not guaranteed to help your understanding of the actual content of netochka's posts much... re jim stevenson wrote: > > Can any of you explain how to interpret integer's code? -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11260; 11 Nov 99 0:52 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lhR2-0000je-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:45:52 +0000 Received: (qmail 21695 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:46 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 22989 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22979 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:02 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:39:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28150 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:01 -0000 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:39:01 -0000 Received: from ix.netcom.com (roc-ny6-180.ix.netcom.com [198.211.253.180]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27302 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <382A1067.C77BE4FA@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:40:08 -0500 From: James Correa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] Two Copies I'm getting two copies too. I don't know for shure the hours but started today. James Correa David Boothe wrote: > I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about > 8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? > > -David. > > The Csound Manual is available at: > http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11279; 11 Nov 99 0:59 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11liaZ-0003Wx-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:59:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 23031 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:43:23 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:43:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22992 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22979 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:02 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:39:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28150 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:39:01 -0000 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (207.69.200.110) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:39:01 -0000 Received: from ix.netcom.com (roc-ny6-180.ix.netcom.com [198.211.253.180]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27302 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <382A1067.C77BE4FA@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:40:08 -0500 From: James Correa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: <000101bf2bcb$bb03ff20$7c98e226@dboothe.lyrick.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] Two Copies I'm getting two copies too. I don't know for shure the hours but started today. James Correa David Boothe wrote: > I am getting two copies of each post to the list. This just started about > 8-9 hours ago. Anyone else having this problem? > > -David. > > The Csound Manual is available at: > http://www.geocities.com/~csoundmanual > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11293; 11 Nov 99 1:04 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lifP-0003X1-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:04:47 +0000 Received: (qmail 24467 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:45:59 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:45:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 23526 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 23515 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:57 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 28208 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:56 -0000 Received: from grynet.passagen.se (195.163.107.36) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:40:56 -0000 Received: from hem.passagen.se (z10-20.stockholm.sbbs2.net [212.112.10.20]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09482 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:40:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382A1217.A2430686@hem.passagen.se> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:47:19 +0100 From: rasmus ekman Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called > 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist > somewhere as references? I think there may be a slight overestimation of the ambition of Gabriel's "beta testing" proposal. The idea as I've construed it is to test minimal platform consistency of Csound, the DSP programming language, that is, to investigate whether the same orch/score will, within reasonable limits, produce "the same" output on all the supported platforms, and further, to check that "normal" and almost-normal usage of the various opcodes at least do not crash Csound. If the task is to verify that opcode authors have done correct implementation of DSP technologies (or translation of algorithms or snippage of published code), or that published DSP algorithms work as the article authors suggest, then we'd indeed need a team of skilled mathematicians with professional tools (and I for one should better go missing from this project immediately, as I know no maths whatsoever). Since there are over 500 opcodes to test, and opcodes often come in families, I thought (naively?) that eg differences in floating-point precision would turn up in a multitude of cases, and thus still give us half a chance of spotting wild divergences. Any suspicious cases should of course be subjected to further testing. And if we don't know what's happening, we can at least document this, so those who know more will know where to look out for trouble. I understand some people on the list have actually worked with QA; I hope they (or you) can come up with some useful suggestions how to set up the testing. Regards, re -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11300; 11 Nov 99 1:06 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lheH-0000jp-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:59:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 25773 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:48:35 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23533 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 23515 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:57 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 28208 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 00:40:56 -0000 Received: from grynet.passagen.se (195.163.107.36) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 00:40:56 -0000 Received: from hem.passagen.se (z10-20.stockholm.sbbs2.net [212.112.10.20]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA09482 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:40:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <382A1217.A2430686@hem.passagen.se> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:47:19 +0100 From: rasmus ekman Organization: . X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Csound list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called > 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist > somewhere as references? I think there may be a slight overestimation of the ambition of Gabriel's "beta testing" proposal. The idea as I've construed it is to test minimal platform consistency of Csound, the DSP programming language, that is, to investigate whether the same orch/score will, within reasonable limits, produce "the same" output on all the supported platforms, and further, to check that "normal" and almost-normal usage of the various opcodes at least do not crash Csound. If the task is to verify that opcode authors have done correct implementation of DSP technologies (or translation of algorithms or snippage of published code), or that published DSP algorithms work as the article authors suggest, then we'd indeed need a team of skilled mathematicians with professional tools (and I for one should better go missing from this project immediately, as I know no maths whatsoever). Since there are over 500 opcodes to test, and opcodes often come in families, I thought (naively?) that eg differences in floating-point precision would turn up in a multitude of cases, and thus still give us half a chance of spotting wild divergences. Any suspicious cases should of course be subjected to further testing. And if we don't know what's happening, we can at least document this, so those who know more will know where to look out for trouble. I understand some people on the list have actually worked with QA; I hope they (or you) can come up with some useful suggestions how to set up the testing. Regards, re -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11462; 11 Nov 99 2:35 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lj2W-0000l0-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:28:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 2816 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:22:20 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 1268 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 1258 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3250 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:23 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:20:23 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id DAA30826 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:20:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:20:18 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911110220.DAA30826@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [ot] : profiles ____ Robin Whittle, Keywords: strong caring masculine framework, motivational Copyright 1996-97-98-99 Robin Whittle http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/otk/ ____ Christopher Murtagh - McGill University [www.mcgill.ca] in addition to stalking Netochka Nezvanova >>=========================================================== >>FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE >>=========================================================== >> LIST OF SITES BELOW >> >>JUST CLICK "MEMBERS" FOR 100% UNLIMITED ACCESS! NEW! DILDOCAM! >> >>#TOP FIVE# >>http://wilma.farmsex.net AMY & HER HORSE JJ #LIVE# >>http://wilma.teenshave.com SMOOTH BALD TEEN PUSSY >>http://wilma.xsluts.com AMATEUR ACTION >>http://wilma.porncast.net FREE LIVE FUCKING - 1000's of feeds >>http://www.sickosex.com SICK SICK SICK! ____ Steve Berkley - president of Bias.inc [excerpt] Plan on a "visit" from someone shortly. Good Night! (breath deeply, while you're at it) - - - Robin Whittle typed the usual fascist male refuse actually the exact fascist male refuse >I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state >clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to >prevent such postings. > >This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp >deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of >starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he >refers to in his posts. > >Tobiah wrote: > >> It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. > >More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around >orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the >thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - >confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his >emissions. > >Read his posts - and he wins. > > >- Robin >-- http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/otk/ -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11473; 11 Nov 99 2:44 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ljBI-0000l2-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:37:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 4161 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:25:12 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:25:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1273 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 1258 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3250 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:20:23 -0000 Received: from www.publcs.dk (HELO www.god-emil.dk) (194.19.130.194) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:20:23 -0000 Received: (from integer@localhost) by www.god-emil.dk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id DAA30826 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:20:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:20:18 +0100 From: integer@www.god-emil.dk Message-Id: <199911110220.DAA30826@www.god-emil.dk> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: [Csnd] [ot] : profiles ____ Robin Whittle, Keywords: strong caring masculine framework, motivational Copyright 1996-97-98-99 Robin Whittle http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/otk/ ____ Christopher Murtagh - McGill University [www.mcgill.ca] in addition to stalking Netochka Nezvanova >>=========================================================== >>FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE >>=========================================================== >> LIST OF SITES BELOW >> >>JUST CLICK "MEMBERS" FOR 100% UNLIMITED ACCESS! NEW! DILDOCAM! >> >>#TOP FIVE# >>http://wilma.farmsex.net AMY & HER HORSE JJ #LIVE# >>http://wilma.teenshave.com SMOOTH BALD TEEN PUSSY >>http://wilma.xsluts.com AMATEUR ACTION >>http://wilma.porncast.net FREE LIVE FUCKING - 1000's of feeds >>http://www.sickosex.com SICK SICK SICK! ____ Steve Berkley - president of Bias.inc [excerpt] Plan on a "visit" from someone shortly. Good Night! (breath deeply, while you're at it) - - - Robin Whittle typed the usual fascist male refuse actually the exact fascist male refuse >I do not wish to generate lengthy discussion, but I want to state >clearly that I think these lists would be best served by trying to >prevent such postings. > >This is not censorship. The lists have a purpose, and Antiorp >deliberately works against that purpose. He is perfectly capable of >starting a list to discuss Csound, DSP or whatever plus the things he >refers to in his posts. > >Tobiah wrote: > >> It is the sound of one hand typing, and one hand spanking. > >More likely it is two hands wanking and the nose bobbing around >orgiastically on the keyboard as he thrills at the thought of the the >thousands of bright and sensitive minds he inserts himself into - >confounding, annoying, occupying and leaving his mark with his >emissions. > >Read his posts - and he wins. > > >- Robin >-- http://www.ozemail.com.au/~firstpr/otk/ -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11485; 11 Nov 99 2:49 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ljFf-0000l6-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:42:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 5478 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:28:13 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:28:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2241 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 2230 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:16 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:24:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3388 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:14 -0000 Received: from emerald.oz.net (216.39.128.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:24:14 -0000 Received: from madgello3 (sense-sea-56k-4-32.oz.net [216.39.131.224]) by emerald.oz.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03255 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:13:55 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Rich Weisgerber" To: "Csound list" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <382A1217.A2430686@hem.passagen.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing Sending one copy from this end. ;-) Test matrix, logging, regression testing, more logging. . . Where is all this going to be stashed for ready access and test logging consistency/availability? Prioritizing test 'areas of concern' balanced against available 'people hour' power could help facilitate defining what is achievable and/or desired of the Csound QA Test crew's focus. What areas/types of testing would be most beneficial? What mega-time-consuming tests would be considered 'absolutely - must do'? Repository of 'standard' test scripts is where? things like that > -----Original Message----- > From: rasmus ekman [mailto:rasmuse@hem.passagen.se] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:47 PM > To: Csound list > Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing > > > Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > > > Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called > > 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist > > somewhere as references? > > I think there may be a slight overestimation of the ambition > of Gabriel's "beta testing" proposal. The idea as I've construed it > is to test minimal platform consistency of Csound, the DSP > programming language, that is, to investigate whether the same > orch/score will, within reasonable limits, produce "the same" > output on all the supported platforms, and further, to check that > "normal" and almost-normal usage of the various opcodes at least > do not crash Csound. > > If the task is to verify that opcode authors have done correct > implementation of DSP technologies (or translation of algorithms > or snippage of published code), or that published DSP algorithms > work as the article authors suggest, then we'd indeed need a team > of skilled mathematicians with professional tools (and I for one > should better go missing from this project immediately, as I know > no maths whatsoever). > > Since there are over 500 opcodes to test, and opcodes often > come in families, I thought (naively?) that eg differences in > floating-point precision would turn up in a multitude of cases, > and thus still give us half a chance of spotting wild divergences. > Any suspicious cases should of course be subjected to further > testing. And if we don't know what's happening, we can at least > document this, so those who know more will know where to look > out for trouble. > > I understand some people on the list have actually worked > with QA; I hope they (or you) can come up with some useful > suggestions how to set up the testing. > > > Regards, > > re > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11494; 11 Nov 99 2:51 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lkKy-0003YJ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:51:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 6839 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:31:01 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 2252 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 2230 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:16 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:24:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3388 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:24:14 -0000 Received: from emerald.oz.net (216.39.128.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:24:14 -0000 Received: from madgello3 (sense-sea-56k-4-32.oz.net [216.39.131.224]) by emerald.oz.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03255 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:13:55 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Rich Weisgerber" To: "Csound list" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:19:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <382A1217.A2430686@hem.passagen.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing Sending one copy from this end. ;-) Test matrix, logging, regression testing, more logging. . . Where is all this going to be stashed for ready access and test logging consistency/availability? Prioritizing test 'areas of concern' balanced against available 'people hour' power could help facilitate defining what is achievable and/or desired of the Csound QA Test crew's focus. What areas/types of testing would be most beneficial? What mega-time-consuming tests would be considered 'absolutely - must do'? Repository of 'standard' test scripts is where? things like that > -----Original Message----- > From: rasmus ekman [mailto:rasmuse@hem.passagen.se] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:47 PM > To: Csound list > Subject: Re: [Csnd] beta testing > > > Nicola Bernardini wrote: > > > > Right. What I was hinting at is: how do you produce the so-called > > 'correct' samples? with mathlab/octave, or what? Do these exist > > somewhere as references? > > I think there may be a slight overestimation of the ambition > of Gabriel's "beta testing" proposal. The idea as I've construed it > is to test minimal platform consistency of Csound, the DSP > programming language, that is, to investigate whether the same > orch/score will, within reasonable limits, produce "the same" > output on all the supported platforms, and further, to check that > "normal" and almost-normal usage of the various opcodes at least > do not crash Csound. > > If the task is to verify that opcode authors have done correct > implementation of DSP technologies (or translation of algorithms > or snippage of published code), or that published DSP algorithms > work as the article authors suggest, then we'd indeed need a team > of skilled mathematicians with professional tools (and I for one > should better go missing from this project immediately, as I know > no maths whatsoever). > > Since there are over 500 opcodes to test, and opcodes often > come in families, I thought (naively?) that eg differences in > floating-point precision would turn up in a multitude of cases, > and thus still give us half a chance of spotting wild divergences. > Any suspicious cases should of course be subjected to further > testing. And if we don't know what's happening, we can at least > document this, so those who know more will know where to look > out for trouble. > > I understand some people on the list have actually worked > with QA; I hope they (or you) can come up with some useful > suggestions how to set up the testing. > > > Regards, > > re > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11572; 11 Nov 99 3:09 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ljZ1-0000lI-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:02:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 11274 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:01:01 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:01:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5686 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5676 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:21 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:59:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4741 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:20 -0000 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.118.20) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:59:20 -0000 Received: (from jims@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03489; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:53:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Stevenson Message-Id: <199911110253.SAA03489@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk, integer@www.god-emil.dk Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] I now believe integer and her other pseudonims has schizophrenia. NOt dissociation, but the biological brain disease schizophrenia. She still needs to be baned from this list, until she can post on the topic of this list. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11591; 11 Nov 99 3:12 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ljcr-0000lP-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:06:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 12598 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:03:36 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 5690 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 5676 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:21 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:59:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4741 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 02:59:20 -0000 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.118.20) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 02:59:20 -0000 Received: (from jims@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03489; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:53:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Stevenson Message-Id: <199911110253.SAA03489@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk, integer@www.god-emil.dk Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] I now believe integer and her other pseudonims has schizophrenia. NOt dissociation, but the biological brain disease schizophrenia. She still needs to be baned from this list, until she can post on the topic of this list. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11657; 11 Nov 99 3:36 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ljzn-0000m6-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:29:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 15585 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:20:10 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:20:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7555 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 7545 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:22 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5378 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA09742; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:18:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A3F4C.4E512CAC@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:00:12 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arie van Schutterhoef CC: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > > In general [the posts] are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always > entertaining. > So what if they are? That's not the point! Perhaps you are new to the internet and this is your first exposure to internet mailing lists. Mailing lists are usually for discussion of a particular topic. For example, this list is for the purpose of sharing information, questions, etc, about the Csound software synthesis program. Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11675; 11 Nov 99 3:58 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lkKe-0000mZ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:51:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 16897 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:22:54 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7558 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 7545 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:22 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5378 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA09742; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:18:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A3F4C.4E512CAC@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:00:12 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arie van Schutterhoef CC: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? > > In general [the posts] are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always > entertaining. > So what if they are? That's not the point! Perhaps you are new to the internet and this is your first exposure to internet mailing lists. Mailing lists are usually for discussion of a particular topic. For example, this list is for the purpose of sharing information, questions, etc, about the Csound software synthesis program. Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11709; 11 Nov 99 4:17 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lkdD-0000mn-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:10:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 18283 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:34 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:25:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8797 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 8783 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:12 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5559 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:11 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:23:11 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA10062; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:23:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A406C.1C2A8E1A@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:05:00 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rasmus ekman CC: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? rasmus ekman wrote: > > Rad-typing accessibility helper. > > Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet > text-oriented sector not-unfrequent? Hmm, only if you regularly convese with 13 year old hackers or hang out on alt.2600 ! Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11735; 11 Nov 99 4:40 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lkzH-0000nJ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:33:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 21095 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:30:55 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:30:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9339 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 9328 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5624 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA10214; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:25:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A406C.1C2A8E1A@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:05:00 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rasmus ekman CC: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? rasmus ekman wrote: > > Rad-typing accessibility helper. > > Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet > text-oriented sector not-unfrequent? Hmm, only if you regularly convese with 13 year old hackers or hang out on alt.2600 ! Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11748; 11 Nov 99 4:49 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11ll8c-0000nP-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:43:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 22485 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:34:00 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9348 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 9328 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5624 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA10214; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:25:10 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A406C.1C2A8E1A@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:05:00 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rasmus ekman CC: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? rasmus ekman wrote: > > Rad-typing accessibility helper. > > Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet > text-oriented sector not-unfrequent? Hmm, only if you regularly convese with 13 year old hackers or hang out on alt.2600 ! Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11760; 11 Nov 99 4:54 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11llDJ-0000nR-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:47:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 25533 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:44:15 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 12129 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 12116 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:35 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 6047 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:33 -0000 Received: from bertha.au.csc.net (203.0.101.101) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:38:33 -0000 Received: from c3w-fwb (c3w-fwb [203.0.101.98]) by bertha.au.csc.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03829 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:31:51 +1100 (EST) From: matthew.armour@immi.gov.au Received: by C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 4A256826.0018FCB9 ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:32:55 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IMMI@C3EXTERNAL To: Csound list Message-ID: <4A256826.0018FBE8.00@C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:37:10 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Csnd] Let The Mud Slinging Begin Seems that we have 2 camps setup in the "csound" discussions list - those who have experienced personal attacks by an anonymous multiple personality (e.g. "integer") and those who like to watch! One thing I have noticed about these malicious emails is that they are always replies to posts that may be off topic (not strictly Csound) to a degree, and lengthy. For example a post such as this one where I am apparently self-indulging on a public platform would attract this malevolent mail personality. This "integer" personality would see my atavism as an easy target, easy enough to bring down in a few pithy phrases. What would be my right of reply? Who should I defend myself to when "I" should not be present in the forum? "I" am not the "topic"? Only "integer" can continually manifest a non-Csound personality in this forum. It is sad to see it that it is power for adversary. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11774; 11 Nov 99 4:57 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11llG2-0000nT-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:50:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 19639 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:28:08 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:28:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 8804 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 8783 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:12 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5559 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:23:11 -0000 Received: from rothko.bestweb.net (209.94.100.160) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:23:11 -0000 Received: from goodguy (dialin-216.poughkeepsie.bestweb.net [216.179.14.50]) by rothko.bestweb.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA10062; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:23:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: root@rothko.bestweb.net Message-ID: <382A406C.1C2A8E1A@westnet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:05:00 +0000 From: Larry Troxler X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rasmus ekman CC: Csound list References: <199911091427.PAA28393@mail2.scandinaviaonline.se> <382A0371.CDDF2759@hem.passagen.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [mega-ot] Rad-typing / integer's posts? rasmus ekman wrote: > > Rad-typing accessibility helper. > > Rad-typing is a not-unfrequent phenomenon in the Internet > text-oriented sector not-unfrequent? Hmm, only if you regularly convese with 13 year old hackers or hang out on alt.2600 ! Larry -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11783; 11 Nov 99 5:00 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lmL0-0003cT-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:59:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 24156 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:40:55 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:40:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12126 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 12116 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:35 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 6047 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 03:38:33 -0000 Received: from bertha.au.csc.net (203.0.101.101) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 03:38:33 -0000 Received: from c3w-fwb (c3w-fwb [203.0.101.98]) by bertha.au.csc.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03829 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:31:51 +1100 (EST) From: matthew.armour@immi.gov.au Received: by C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 4A256826.0018FCB9 ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:32:55 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IMMI@C3EXTERNAL To: Csound list Message-ID: <4A256826.0018FBE8.00@C3W-NOTES.AU.CSC.NET> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:37:10 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Csnd] Let The Mud Slinging Begin Seems that we have 2 camps setup in the "csound" discussions list - those who have experienced personal attacks by an anonymous multiple personality (e.g. "integer") and those who like to watch! One thing I have noticed about these malicious emails is that they are always replies to posts that may be off topic (not strictly Csound) to a degree, and lengthy. For example a post such as this one where I am apparently self-indulging on a public platform would attract this malevolent mail personality. This "integer" personality would see my atavism as an easy target, easy enough to bring down in a few pithy phrases. What would be my right of reply? Who should I defend myself to when "I" should not be present in the forum? "I" am not the "topic"? Only "integer" can continually manifest a non-Csound personality in this forum. It is sad to see it that it is power for adversary. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11810; 11 Nov 99 5:03 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lmNy-0003cX-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:03:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 28993 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:06:48 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:06:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14899 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 14889 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 7044 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from out2.prserv.net (HELO prserv.net) (165.87.194.229) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from attglobal.net ([32.101.77.28]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <1999111104044222902gv8nhe>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:04:43 +0000 Message-ID: <382A41A1.9673AC47@attglobal.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:10:09 -0500 From: Job van Zuijlen Reply-To: zuijlen@attglobal.net Organization: electona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk References: <199911110253.SAA03489@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] The discussion about NN is in itself off topic and thus should be baned [sic]. As I have said at an earlier occassion, I see no point in preventing NN from posting, as posts are on topic at times. It just may take some more effort to decode the message. I think we can live with 0+1 nonconformist life form. Job van Zuijlen Jim Stevenson wrote: > > I now believe integer and her other pseudonims has schizophrenia. > NOt dissociation, but the biological brain disease schizophrenia. > > She still needs to be baned from this list, until she can post on the > topic of this list. > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11824; 11 Nov 99 5:06 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lmRN-0003cZ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:06:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 402 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:10:08 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14902 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 14889 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 7044 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from out2.prserv.net (HELO prserv.net) (165.87.194.229) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:04:45 -0000 Received: from attglobal.net ([32.101.77.28]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <1999111104044222902gv8nhe>; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:04:43 +0000 Message-ID: <382A41A1.9673AC47@attglobal.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:10:09 -0500 From: Job van Zuijlen Reply-To: zuijlen@attglobal.net Organization: electona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk References: <199911110253.SAA03489@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] The discussion about NN is in itself off topic and thus should be baned [sic]. As I have said at an earlier occassion, I see no point in preventing NN from posting, as posts are on topic at times. It just may take some more effort to decode the message. I think we can live with 0+1 nonconformist life form. Job van Zuijlen Jim Stevenson wrote: > > I now believe integer and her other pseudonims has schizophrenia. > NOt dissociation, but the biological brain disease schizophrenia. > > She still needs to be baned from this list, until she can post on the > topic of this list. > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11837; 11 Nov 99 5:10 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11llS8-0000od-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:03:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 3726 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:31:20 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16838 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 16828 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:29:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7886 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from tk1.ihug.co.nz (HELO smtp1.ihug.co.nz) (203.29.160.13) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from ns (OhYesss@p385-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.158.145]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12594 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:29:15 +1300 Message-ID: <003b01bf2bfd$51d81860$0100a8c0@gemlink.com> Reply-To: "Bill Gray" From: "Bill Gray" To: References: <199911102150.WAA21814@www.god-emil.dk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:29:13 +1300 Organization: Grusic Sound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] Bill wrote: >>It's as if she really doesn't want to be > >understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to > >say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's > >being said. integer wrote: > an interesting point which is in fact a contradiction > and is paralleled by fact several discussion lists > exist although one world wide discussion list is feasible > and would offer several advantages [netochka nezvanova 00] > > amidst the open source parades and new and improved standards [e.g. mp4] > there exist minimal m9nd aktivity which could be construed as intelligent. Bill replied: Hmm....ranting in English this time. Made you blink ;) Anyway, the fact of the matter is, this is not a political forum nor is it a cyber gallery for the posting of new language/art forms. Myself and quite a few others are quite tired of seeing this annoying stream of bytes you like to spew on a daily basis. So please take it elsewhere. End of discussion. Kill filter re-applied. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11858; 11 Nov 99 5:18 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lmcx-0003cb-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:18:31 +0000 Received: (qmail 5062 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:34:23 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16841 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 16828 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:24 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:29:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7886 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from tk1.ihug.co.nz (HELO smtp1.ihug.co.nz) (203.29.160.13) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from ns (OhYesss@p385-tnt3.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.158.145]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id RAA12594 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:29:15 +1300 Message-ID: <003b01bf2bfd$51d81860$0100a8c0@gemlink.com> Reply-To: "Bill Gray" From: "Bill Gray" To: References: <199911102150.WAA21814@www.god-emil.dk> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:29:13 +1300 Organization: Grusic Sound MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] [[ot] Bill wrote: >>It's as if she really doesn't want to be > >understood at all and would prefer to exist in isolation where it's safe to > >say things that no one can challenge because no one can really hear what's > >being said. integer wrote: > an interesting point which is in fact a contradiction > and is paralleled by fact several discussion lists > exist although one world wide discussion list is feasible > and would offer several advantages [netochka nezvanova 00] > > amidst the open source parades and new and improved standards [e.g. mp4] > there exist minimal m9nd aktivity which could be construed as intelligent. Bill replied: Hmm....ranting in English this time. Made you blink ;) Anyway, the fact of the matter is, this is not a political forum nor is it a cyber gallery for the posting of new language/art forms. Myself and quite a few others are quite tired of seeing this annoying stream of bytes you like to spew on a daily basis. So please take it elsewhere. End of discussion. Kill filter re-applied. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11876; 11 Nov 99 5:26 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lmks-0003cf-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:26:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 13422 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:14:27 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:14:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23089 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 23074 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9393 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from emerald.oz.net (216.39.128.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from madgello3 (sense-sea-56k-4-32.oz.net [216.39.131.224]) by emerald.oz.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14534 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:07:20 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Rich Weisgerber" To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:12:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <382A3F4C.4E512CAC@westnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Subject: [Csnd] SO: The Trap RE: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] proteger's posts? is whether the posts of self have anything to do with Csound . . . or not . . . How 'bout that 3.591, eh? ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: selves@own.planet.sol.gal.mv > Sent: Wergsda!, Noveembeer 110, 19999 88:08.33.22.34324..4545335234252523354557798780 PM > To: Arv B Sharnd > Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: [Numbi] [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] proteger's posts? > > > > > > In general [the posts] are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always > > entertaining. > > > > So w..at if they ... e of shar... infor..ation, que...ions, > etc, about the C.und so./.tware syn...sis pr...am. > > XazzaCXrry > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11924; 11 Nov 99 5:45 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lm0o-0000pj-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:39:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 14810 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:17:17 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:17:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23099 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 23074 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9393 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from emerald.oz.net (216.39.128.2) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 05:12:35 -0000 Received: from madgello3 (sense-sea-56k-4-32.oz.net [216.39.131.224]) by emerald.oz.net (8.9.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14534 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:07:20 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Rich Weisgerber" To: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:12:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <382A3F4C.4E512CAC@westnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Subject: [Csnd] SO: The Trap RE: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] proteger's posts? is whether the posts of self have anything to do with Csound . . . or not . . . How 'bout that 3.591, eh? ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: selves@own.planet.sol.gal.mv > Sent: Wergsda!, Noveembeer 110, 19999 88:08.33.22.34324..4545335234252523354557798780 PM > To: Arv B Sharnd > Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk > Subject: [Numbi] [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] proteger's posts? > > > > > > In general [the posts] are intriguing, sometimes insulting, but always > > entertaining. > > > > So w..at if they ... e of shar... infor..ation, que...ions, > etc, about the C.und so./.tware syn...sis pr...am. > > XazzaCXrry > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12114; 11 Nov 99 7:43 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lotC-0003jo-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:43:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 24560 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:36:12 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:36:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1166 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 1156 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14608 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: from mail5.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.55) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2313 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:25 -0000 Received: from pppa34-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.93) by mail5.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf2c0e$83d06460$5dce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Csound Mailing List" Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:32:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] Help with Bosendorfer samples I ca't get the Bosendorfer samples working. Here is the orc and sco. I renamed the samples to bosen.aif where is c0 to f4. ;orc sr =3D 22050 kr =3D 441 ksmps =3D 50 nchnls =3D 2 instr 1 inum notnum ifno table inum, 10 ;do keyboard mapping to ftables (1-9) ibasno table ifno, 11 ;get basnot for each ftable ibasoct =3D ibasno/12. + 3. icps cpsmidi iamp ampmidi 2000, 9 amp linenr iamp, 0, .2, .03 a1,a2 loscil amp, icps, ifno, cpsoct(ibasoct) ;read an AIFF-defined = sampled instr outs a1, a2 endin =1A ;sco f1 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENa0.aif" 0 4 0 ;set SSDIR =3D = /ti/sound/bv/Samples f2 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSEND1.aif" 0 4 0 f3 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENC2.aif" 0 4 0 f4 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENF2.aif" 0 4 0 f5 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSEND#3.aif" 0 4 0 f6 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENC#4.aif" 0 4 0 f7 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENF#4.aif" 0 4 0 f8 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENB4.aif" 0 4 0 f9 0 128 5 1 128 10 ;for veloc to non-linear amp f10 0 128 -17 0 1 36 2 43 3 51 4 58 5 68 6 76 7 81 8 ;map notnum to = table f11 0 16 -2 0 33 38 48 53 63 73 78 83 ;map table to basnot f0 600 e ; autoexec.bat=20 @ECHO OFF SET LMOUSE=3DC:\COMPAQ\MOUSE SET BLASTER=3DA220 I5 D3 LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\DOSKEY.COM LH C:\COMPAQ\SUPPORT\LLHB.EXE SET MIDI2CS=3Dc:\csound SET SFDIR=3DC:\SONGS SET SSDIR=3DE:\samples\ SET TEMP=3Dc:\temp PATH=3Dc:\windows;c:\windows\COMMAND;c:\CSOUND;c:\progra~1\micros~2\vc98;= d:\tc\bin;d:\c SET PATH=3D%PATH%;d:\timid\timidity; I included the autoexec.bat. II had it working before, but don't remember how i did it If you can help me, then let me know. BTW it gives an INIT ERROR on the samples __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12155; 11 Nov 99 8:01 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lo7l-0000w3-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:54:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 25909 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:38:31 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:38:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1169 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 1156 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14608 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: from mail5.wlv.netzero.net (209.247.163.55) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2313 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 1999 07:34:25 -0000 Received: from pppa34-resalemontgomery1-2r1103.saturn.bbn.com (HELO default) (4.16.206.93) by mail5.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 07:34:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf2c0e$83d06460$5dce1004@default> From: "Sherlock_abc" To: "Csound Mailing List" Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:32:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Csnd] Help with Bosendorfer samples I ca't get the Bosendorfer samples working. Here is the orc and sco. I renamed the samples to bosen.aif where is c0 to f4. ;orc sr =3D 22050 kr =3D 441 ksmps =3D 50 nchnls =3D 2 instr 1 inum notnum ifno table inum, 10 ;do keyboard mapping to ftables (1-9) ibasno table ifno, 11 ;get basnot for each ftable ibasoct =3D ibasno/12. + 3. icps cpsmidi iamp ampmidi 2000, 9 amp linenr iamp, 0, .2, .03 a1,a2 loscil amp, icps, ifno, cpsoct(ibasoct) ;read an AIFF-defined = sampled instr outs a1, a2 endin =1A ;sco f1 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENa0.aif" 0 4 0 ;set SSDIR =3D = /ti/sound/bv/Samples f2 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSEND1.aif" 0 4 0 f3 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENC2.aif" 0 4 0 f4 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENF2.aif" 0 4 0 f5 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSEND#3.aif" 0 4 0 f6 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENC#4.aif" 0 4 0 f7 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENF#4.aif" 0 4 0 f8 0 0 1 "/Bosendorfer/BOSENB4.aif" 0 4 0 f9 0 128 5 1 128 10 ;for veloc to non-linear amp f10 0 128 -17 0 1 36 2 43 3 51 4 58 5 68 6 76 7 81 8 ;map notnum to = table f11 0 16 -2 0 33 38 48 53 63 73 78 83 ;map table to basnot f0 600 e ; autoexec.bat=20 @ECHO OFF SET LMOUSE=3DC:\COMPAQ\MOUSE SET BLASTER=3DA220 I5 D3 LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\DOSKEY.COM LH C:\COMPAQ\SUPPORT\LLHB.EXE SET MIDI2CS=3Dc:\csound SET SFDIR=3DC:\SONGS SET SSDIR=3DE:\samples\ SET TEMP=3Dc:\temp PATH=3Dc:\windows;c:\windows\COMMAND;c:\CSOUND;c:\progra~1\micros~2\vc98;= d:\tc\bin;d:\c SET PATH=3D%PATH%;d:\timid\timidity; I included the autoexec.bat. II had it working before, but don't remember how i did it If you can help me, then let me know. BTW it gives an INIT ERROR on the samples __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12371; 11 Nov 99 10:06 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lr7M-0003oY-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:06:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 10293 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 09:59:32 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 09:59:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 22907 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22897 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 27820 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.210) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from modem-117.lunar-wrasse.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.41.117] helo=internetpc) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11lqzI-0000Yy-00 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:57:52 +0000 Message-ID: <00bb01bf2bc4$0c883260$7529893e@internetpc> From: "richard bowers" To: "csound csound" References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:38:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer Oh, please can we give it a rest? Let her post the bloody things and stop discussing this infantile junk and clogging up my mailbox with duplicate copies of the same nothingness. Richard. Mmm. I think I've just added to the misery. Oh well. > > Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? > It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded > nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > > No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > > / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12385; 11 Nov 99 10:09 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lrAu-0003oe-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:09:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 12096 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:01:59 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22911 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22897 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 27820 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.210) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 09:57:53 -0000 Received: from modem-117.lunar-wrasse.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.41.117] helo=internetpc) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11lqzI-0000Yy-00 for csound@lists.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:57:52 +0000 Message-ID: <00bb01bf2bc4$0c883260$7529893e@internetpc> From: "richard bowers" To: "csound csound" References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:38:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Re: [Csnd] Integer Oh, please can we give it a rest? Let her post the bloody things and stop discussing this infantile junk and clogging up my mailbox with duplicate copies of the same nothingness. Richard. Mmm. I think I've just added to the misery. Oh well. > > Why can't you people let Integer post her mail to the list? > It's hardly ever more than about 3-4 every week, and it gives bullheaded > nazi.fasci.4mr!k4n5 something to think about.. ;) > > No offence, but I think it could be quite refreshing sometimes.. > > / Anders Andersson, Sweden (Capitol of Denmark) > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk > -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12464; 11 Nov 99 11:12 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lr6T-00018B-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:05:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 24865 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:02:59 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 10226 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 10209 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7863 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.118.20) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: (from jims@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04691; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:53:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Stevenson Message-Id: <199911111053.CAA04691@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: arsche@stad.dsl.nl, lt@westnet.com Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Some folks appear to believe that they should be able to post on anything if they label their posts OT. They compound their problem by posting in code. Can we please get them kicked off list? If you quote me, please put your comments first. I have already listened to mine. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12492; 11 Nov 99 11:28 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lsOg-0003t5-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:28:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 23401 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:00:35 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10220 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 10209 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7863 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: from eos.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.118.20) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:58:54 -0000 Received: (from jims@localhost) by eos.arc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04691; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:53:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 02:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Stevenson Message-Id: <199911111053.CAA04691@eos.arc.nasa.gov> To: arsche@stad.dsl.nl, lt@westnet.com Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Csnd] [OT] Re: [Csnd] integer's posts? Some folks appear to believe that they should be able to post on anything if they label their posts OT. They compound their problem by posting in code. Can we please get them kicked off list? If you quote me, please put your comments first. I have already listened to mine. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12556; 11 Nov 99 11:57 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by shaun.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lsrE-0003uQ-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:57:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 813 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:50:23 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:50:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 22940 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22930 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16429 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:40 -0000 Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.50) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:48:40 -0000 Received: from [194.109.134.151] (dc2-modem1687.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.151]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00417 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:48:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911111148.MAA00417@smtp7.xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 99 12:48:44 -0000 x-sender: gml@pop.xs4all.nl x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: vanDongen/Gilcher To: "csound" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: [Csnd] tempo accuracy I'm working with the tempoopcode, to create a tempo instrument (so I can make tempo changes other than linear accellerando and have a global tempo variable for delay-times etc.) This is a little test orc+sco It should generate 16 notes in 10 seconds, going from 60 to 120 bpm, the 16 th note at exactly 10 seconds. sr = 44100 kr = 4410 ksmps = 10 nchnls = 1 instr 1 kbps line 1,10,2 tempo 60kbps,60 endin instr 2 a1 pluck 10000,220,220,0,3,.3 out a1 endin i1 0 15 i2 0 1 i2 + i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 e the note amplitude's when rendering are given like this, ..... B 10.000 .. 11.000 T 11.000 TT 11.000 M: 9983.2 B 11.000 .. 12.000 T 12.000 TT 12.000 M: 9989.3 B 12.000 .. 13.000 T 12.538 TT 12.538 M: 9960.9 B 13.000 .. 14.000 T 14.000 TT 14.000 M: 9996.9 B 14.000 .. 15.000 T 14.509 TT 14.509 M: 9964.0 B 15.000 .. 16.000 T 15.496 TT 15.496 M: 9974.1 Which may have to do with the 'uninterpret score beats' flag neccesary for the orc. It does render an accellerando from 60 bpm to about 120. It is however inaccurate. In this case rather minor (the last note is about .33 seconds to late) but with a larger score of about 5 minutes this adds up. If the beats-per-second is a function: bps=f(t), shouldn't the total number of beats in time T be the intergration of f(t) of period T? Which in the above example gives exactly 15 beats in 10 seconds. Is my math wrong or is the some inaccuracy in csound, in my case 3.58 ppc (macintosh) regards Gerard van Dongen -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: from wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12577; 11 Nov 99 12:01 GMT Received: from [138.38.32.81] (helo=mercury.bath.ac.uk) by wallace.maths.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11lrsR-0001BT-00 for j.p.ffitch@maths.bath.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:54:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 2269 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:52:49 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:52:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 22953 invoked by uid 1457); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact csound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: csound Delivered-To: mailing list csound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22930 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:48:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16429 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 11:48:40 -0000 Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (194.109.127.50) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 11:48:40 -0000 Received: from [194.109.134.151] (dc2-modem1687.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.134.151]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00417 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:48:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911111148.MAA00417@smtp7.xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 99 12:48:44 -0000 x-sender: gml@pop.xs4all.nl x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: vanDongen/Gilcher To: "csound" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: [Csnd] tempo accuracy I'm working with the tempoopcode, to create a tempo instrument (so I can make tempo changes other than linear accellerando and have a global tempo variable for delay-times etc.) This is a little test orc+sco It should generate 16 notes in 10 seconds, going from 60 to 120 bpm, the 16 th note at exactly 10 seconds. sr = 44100 kr = 4410 ksmps = 10 nchnls = 1 instr 1 kbps line 1,10,2 tempo 60kbps,60 endin instr 2 a1 pluck 10000,220,220,0,3,.3 out a1 endin i1 0 15 i2 0 1 i2 + i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 i2 e the note amplitude's when rendering are given like this, ..... B 10.000 .. 11.000 T 11.000 TT 11.000 M: 9983.2 B 11.000 .. 12.000 T 12.000 TT 12.000 M: 9989.3 B 12.000 .. 13.000 T 12.538 TT 12.538 M: 9960.9 B 13.000 .. 14.000 T 14.000 TT 14.000 M: 9996.9 B 14.000 .. 15.000 T 14.509 TT 14.509 M: 9964.0 B 15.000 .. 16.000 T 15.496 TT 15.496 M: 9974.1 Which may have to do with the 'uninterpret score beats' flag neccesary for the orc. It does render an accellerando from 60 bpm to about 120. It is however inaccurate. In this case rather minor (the last note is about .33 seconds to late) but with a larger score of about 5 minutes this adds up. If the beats-per-second is a function: bps=f(t), shouldn't the total number of beats in time T be the intergration of f(t) of period T? Which in the above example gives exactly 15 beats in 10 seconds. Is my math wrong or is the some inaccuracy in csound, in my case 3.58 ppc (macintosh) regards Gerard van Dongen -- To unsubscribe, send email to csound-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk