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The csound archives I have go back to when I started a DIGEST format,
and so only go back to March 1997 or there aboiuts.
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A new mailing list has been created specifically for commnications
about the Extended Csound board and software from Analog Devices.
This list is mainly for people who have the board, but others who are
interested in the system are welcome to join.  I expect the
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At present I am the only subscriber, so mail is not yet flowing.  If a
suficient number of users of the Extended Csound kit join then it
should become both a useful communication from Analog for their
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On Fri, 22 May 1998 jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote:

> Message written at 21 May 1998 12:40:51 +0100
> 
> A new mailing list has been created specifically for commnications
> about the Extended Csound board and software from Analog Devices.
> This list is mainly for people who have the board, but others who are
> interested in the system are welcome to join.  I expect the
> discussions to be more about the API, libraries, developments etc
> rather than about Csound the language.
> 
...
> 
> At present I am the only subscriber, so mail is not yet flowing.  If a
> suficient number of users of the Extended Csound kit join then it
> should become both a useful communication from Analog for their
> intentions, and a collective way of nudging them into useful plans.
> 

John,

Great idea. I tried to subscribe and I got thereply attached below. Please
advice.

Regards,
Erez Webman

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Hi,

I'm very eager to get CSound to work... but I'm stuck here:

The manual (I refer to 3.76 here) claims that p2 is the duration, by
default in seconds.

But this seems to depend (even in the latest version (3.781)) on the
sampling rate.  For example, when I do the little example score in the
manual, but set a sampling rate of 44.1kHz, the whole `piece' is much
longer than 2.5 seconds (seems to me it's about 4.41 times as long...)

Who's wrong?  The manual, the program... or is it just me.

BTW, I tried the binary for Linux (just to be sure... first time I say
(heard) it was with a binary I made myself).

Bye, J

PS: Of course, I could leave everything at 10kHz... but then I *think*
it's better to match the sampling rate(s) supported by the output
device (or am I wrong here... I'm pretty much a laymen in the area of
(electro-)acoustics).

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A new mailing list has been created specifically for commnications
about the Extended Csound board and software from Analog Devices.
This list is mainly for people who have the board, but others who are
interested in the system are welcome to join.  I expect the
discussions to be more about the API, libraries, developments etc
rather than about Csound the language.

The list is run by the EZMLM system, which mean (I hope) that although
I am the administrator, the system runs mainly automatically.  To
subscribe one sends mail to 
	  xtcsound-subscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk
with no particular subject or contents, which will cause a message to
be sent to the sender which needs to be returned--an attempt to stop
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the cookie does need to be returned in all cases.
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other things.  There is (should be) an archive and when I understand
the system well enough there may be a digest format.

At present I am the only subscriber, so mail is not yet flowing.  If a
suficient number of users of the Extended Csound kit join then it
should become both a useful communication from Analog for their
intentions, and a collective way of nudging them into useful plans.

==John ffitch










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Hi
I think you'll find that p2 is the start time p3 is duration. Hope this
helps
Derek

Juergen A. Erhard wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm very eager to get CSound to work... but I'm stuck here:
>
> The manual (I refer to 3.76 here) claims that p2 is the duration, by
> default in seconds.
>
> But this seems to depend (even in the latest version (3.781)) on the
> sampling rate.  For example, when I do the little example score in the
> manual, but set a sampling rate of 44.1kHz, the whole `piece' is much
> longer than 2.5 seconds (seems to me it's about 4.41 times as long...)
>
> Who's wrong?  The manual, the program... or is it just me.
>
> BTW, I tried the binary for Linux (just to be sure... first time I say
> (heard) it was with a binary I made myself).
>
> Bye, J
>
> PS: Of course, I could leave everything at 10kHz... but then I *think*
> it's better to match the sampling rate(s) supported by the output
> device (or am I wrong here... I'm pretty much a laymen in the area of
> (electro-)acoustics).
>
> --
> J=FCrgen A. Erhard  eMail: jae@laden.ilk.de  phone: (GERMANY) 0721 2732=
6
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Hello, I hope I'm sending this to the right address.  I've been
encouraged to submit some information about myself to the 'list'.

I'm a masters student at York University in Toronto, Can. studying
composition with James Tenney (if you don't know of him, find out, he's
a remarkable person (but the net doesn't provide much)).  My interests
over the past couple of years have been in the limitations of equal
temperament and western notation.  Csound seems like it may be an ideal
format for experimentations with tunings, etc., as the availability of
microtonal instruments and musicians interested in performing microtonal
works has been quite frustrating.  I'm pretty much a computer idiot but
am incouraged now that I've actually managed to get Csound running on
windows and had some immediate success creating some simple orchestras
and scores that sound as intended.

While my primary concern was not synthesis, I am becoming increasingly
interested and I think Csound will push me more to this end.  

Thanks for your time, I'll try not to ask alot of stupid questions.
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Hi CSounders,


I expected to try "tempest " opcode in order to make tempo recognition.
For that I began to wrote:

        asig soundin   "Bob.aiff"   ; get external audio
        dsamp octdown  asig, 6, 180, 0  ; downsample in 6 octaves
       wsig noctdft    dsamp, .02, 12, 33, 0, 1, 1 ; and calc 72-point
dft (dB)

wich is the manual example for making spectral data (wsig) and then do
the following:

        ksum specsum wsignal, 1     ; sum the amps of a spectrum
        ktemp tempest ksum, .02, .1, 3, 2, 800, .005, 0, 60, 4, .1, .995
; and look for beats

which is also the manual example for tempo sensing.

Unfortunately CSound 3.47 reports "illegal opcode" for both "octdown"
and "noctdft".

I check the newests manuals but I didn't find anything about that.
Did I make a mistake or did those opcodes have disapeared from 3.47?


CSoundly yours.

--

Jean-Michel DARREMONT

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I've been poking around the archive but can seem to turn them up.

Thanks,
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Hans Mikelson wrote:
> 
> I've been poking around the archive but can seem to turn them up.
> 
They doesn't seem to be in the Windows version, but lpanal and pvanal
are in the DOS version at
ftp://ftp.musique.umontreal.ca/pub/mirrors/dream/newest/
download csound new.zip from there.











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Subject: Re: Schindler Csound Tutorial at Eastman Web site
Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:51:40 +0400
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Thank you!
The http://www.esm.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/allan.cs/ is right, I used it.


 Regards,
       Sergey Batov
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> =CE=F2: Drew Skyfyre 
> =CA=EE=EC=F3: Contribute 
> =D2=E5=EC=E0: Schindler Csound Tutorial at Eastman Web site
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> Attention newbies and the generally confounded :-)
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> For those of you who don't know about it,there is an EXCELLENT tutorial=
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> that is a companion to the Csound MIT manual.Bit like a Rosetta stone f=
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> the MIT manual.Makes things crystal clear.
> Written by  Allan Schindler ,Eastman Computer Music Center at the Eastm=
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> School of Music.
> It's actually for his classes,but it's there if you want it.Just ignore=
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> 11",etc., they're easy to spot.=20
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> It's in 6 chapters of between 35 and 58kb each.
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> Not certain of the URL ( I was on a Unix shell) ,this may be right=20
>  If this is wrong,go=
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> Eastman".Should be the first result listed.=20
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> There's actually a lot of stuff on the net in the form of class
notes,etc.
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> -Drew
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