Re: C++Sound

Date	1998-09-22 16:22
From	Eric Scheirer
Subject	Re: C++Sound
	Koen Dejonghe wrote: > I have been pondering over this problem a bit and I even made the > daring attempt to write a CSound orc/sco 'program' in a structured > way. I know that 'structured' and 'object-oriented' are not the same, > but I think that the step from CSound to OO must enivetably go via > something structured. This is exactly the goal, as pointed out by others, of the MPEG-4 SAOL project. Your design below essentially re-creates the format of SAOL. I attach the by-the-spec SAOL version of this orchestra for comparison -- the similarities to your design are remarkable! The only real design difference is that the orchestra and score are separated in SAOL as in Csound. SAOL and the rest of MPEG-4 go to International Standard status in December. The specification is very, very close to completion now and can be downloaded from . > //Now in C-style CSound > > ftab ftSine; > > audio Chorus (control cSignal, > audio a1, > float fFreq) > { > float fNote = cpspch (fFreq); > audio a1 = oscil (cSignal, fNote, ftSine); > audio a2 = oscil (cSignal, fNote * .996, ftSine); > audio a3 = oscil (cSignal, fNote * 1.004, ftSine); > > return (a1 + a2 + a3); > } > > void Toot4 (float fStart, > float fDuration, > float fAmp, > float fFreq, > float fAttack, > float fRelease) > { > float fDb = ampdb (fAmp); > float fScale = fDb * .333; > control cEnvelope = linen (fScale, fAttack, fDuration, fRelease); > out (fStart, fDuration, Chorus (cEnvelope, fFreq)); > } > > main () > { > InitCSound (16000, 1000, 1); > ftSine = gen (0, 4096, 10, 1); > Toot4 (0, 1, 75, 8.04, .1, .7); > ... > } // Now in SAOL global { srate 16000; krate 1000; outchannels 1; table ftSine(harm,4096,1); } instr toot4(fStart,fDur,fAmp,fFreq,fAtt,fRel) { ivar fDb, fScale, ksig cEnv; fDb = ampdb(fAmp); fScale = fDb * 0.333; // could just be fScale = ampdb(fAmp) * 0.333; cEnv = linen(fScale, fAttack, fDuration, fRelease); output(my_chorus(cEnv,fFreq)); } kopcode linen(max,att,dur,rel) { return(kline(0,att,max,dur-att-rel,max,rel,0)); } aopcode my_chorus(ksig cSig, ivar fFreq) { ivar fNote; asig a1,a2,a3; imports table ftSine; fNote = cpspch(fFreq); a1 = oscil(ftSine, fNote) * cSig; a2 = oscil(ftSine, fNote * 0.996) * cSig; a3 = oscil(ftSine, fNote * 1.004) * cSig; return(a1 + a2 + a3); } // score starts here 0.0 toot4 1 75 8.04 0.1 0.7 ... 10 end Best to all, -- Eric -- +-----------------+ \| Eric Scheirer \|A-7b5 D7b9\|G-7 C7\|Cb C-7b5 F7#9\|Bb \|B-7 E7\| \|eds@media.mit.edu\| < http://sound.media.mit.edu/~eds > \| 617 253 0112 \|A A/G# F#-7 F#-/E\|Eb-7b5 D7b5\|Db\|C7b5 B7b5\|Bb\| +-----------------+ Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11420; 22 Sep 98 17:17 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa29909; 22 Sep 98 17:17 BST Received: (qmail 874 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 16:16:50 -0000 Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu (129.170.16.6) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 16:16:50 -0000 Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.8.8+DND/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13326; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <12808698@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 98 12:15:02 EDT From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Subject: [Bug Fix] in Macros To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk, csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline John and others, i found a bug in macro code: rdorch.c, line 302 (in rdorch()) change: else if (c == '#' && linepos==0) { to: else if (c == '#' && linepos==1) { i assume linepos check is there so that all #define's and #include's can only occur first character on a line, but linepos gets automatically incremented to 1 after first char in line is read.. -matt Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11451; 22 Sep 98 17:25 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00731; 22 Sep 98 17:25 BST Received: (qmail 1371 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA14008); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:20:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:20:28 +0100 Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA14600); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:20:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.8.8+DND/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23807; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <12809109@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 98 12:20:14 EDT From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Subject: use macros(was Re: C++Sound) To: koen_dejonghe@yahoo.com, csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Cc: koen.dejonghe@be.origin-it.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --- Koen Dejonghe wrote: I even made the daring attempt to write a CSound orc/sco 'program' in a structured way. --- end of quote --- your C code looks almost the same as SAOL code. (although im not really familiar with it or never figured out its intended use) with the new macro implementation by john, you can do similiar (but not as elegent) things inside csound itself: #define CHORUS(Out#Amp#Note#Fn) # a1 oscili $Amp.33, $Note, $Fn a2 oscili $Amp.33, $Note * .996, $Fn a3 oscili $Amp.33, $Note 1.004, $Fn $Out = a1 + a2 + a3 # instr 1 iChorusAmp = p4 iChorusNote = cpspch(p5) iChorusFn = p6 $CHORUS(aChorusOut#iChorusAmp#iChorusNote#iChorusFn) out aChorusOut endin Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11452; 22 Sep 98 17:25 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00737; 22 Sep 98 17:25 BST Received: (qmail 12686 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA20473); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:17:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:17:30 +0100 Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA02684); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:17:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.8.8+DND/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13326; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <12808698@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 98 12:15:02 EDT From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Subject: [Bug Fix] in Macros To: jpff@maths.bath.ac.uk, csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk John and others, i found a bug in macro code: rdorch.c, line 302 (in rdorch()) change: else if (c == '#' && linepos==0) { to: else if (c == '#' && linepos==1) { i assume linepos check is there so that all #define's and #include's can only occur first character on a line, but linepos gets automatically incremented to 1 after first char in line is read.. -matt Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11522; 22 Sep 98 17:54 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03388; 22 Sep 98 17:54 BST Received: (qmail 2975 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 16:54:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 16:54:37 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA14133); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:48:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:48:15 +0100 Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA07957); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:48:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.8.8+DND/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07472 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <12811350@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 98 12:48:07 EDT From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Subject: [Bug Fix] PPC 3.485.1 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i put a new power mac version with that macro bug fix on the ftp site: ftp://mills.edu/ccm/csound.ppc/Csound3.485.1.sit.hqx -matt Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11572; 22 Sep 98 17:58 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa03788; 22 Sep 98 17:58 BST Received: (qmail 3185 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 16:58:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 16:58:45 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (RAA19383); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:52:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:52:42 +0100 Received: from mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6] by hermes via ESMTP (RAA15047); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:52:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.dartmouth.edu (8.8.8+DND/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12900 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <12811642@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 98 12:52:41 EDT From: "Matt J. Ingalls" Subject: Re: use macros(was Re: C++Sound) To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --- You wrote: What is SAOL, and where can I learn more? Thanks. --- end of quote --- MPEG-4 Structured Audio http://sound.media.mit.edu/ -matt Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11612; 22 Sep 98 18:09 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa04757; 22 Sep 98 18:09 BST Received: (qmail 3847 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 17:09:01 -0000 Received: from amos.bath.ac.uk (qmailr@138.38.32.36) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 17:09:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22704 invoked by uid 1457); 22 Sep 1998 17:08:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xtcsound-help@lists.bath.ac.uk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list xtcsound@lists.bath.ac.uk Received: (qmail 22691 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 17:08:54 -0000 Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (138.38.32.2) by amos.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 17:08:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16697 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 17:08:52 -0000 Received: from adinet.analog.com (137.71.23.3) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 17:08:52 -0000 Received: by adinet.analog.com id NAA06222 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for xtcsound@lists.bath.ac.uk); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:08:24 -0400 Received: by adinet.analog.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:08:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8B37421296FDD111BFFA0060B06741FC01843329@nwd2exm1b.analog.com> From: "Vercoe, Scotty" To: XTCsound Subject: status Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:12:35 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) I know many of you are anxious for a new software release. As some of you know, much of the work is being done in India. I have received news that the new 32-bit .dll and .vxd are stable. This means that we only have to do some testing before distributing. If anyone is interested in being a part of this, please let me know. Thanks for your patience, Scotty Vercoe XTCsound Applications Consultant Analog Devices Software & Systems Technology Division Tel: (781) 461-3569 FAX: (781) 461-4291 Support: Csound.support@analog.com Website: http://www.analog.com/support/systems/audio/csound.html Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12236; 22 Sep 98 23:22 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00982; 22 Sep 98 23:22 BST Received: (qmail 21228 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 22:22:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 22:22:22 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (XAA23555); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:17:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:17:20 +0100 Received: from root@pcbt161.smc.univie.ac.at [131.130.31.161] by hermes via ESMTP (XAA04561); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:17:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from polya.neuw.univie.ac.at (uvo-101.univie.ac.at [131.130.230.101]) by pcbt161.smc.univie.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA10566 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:01:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:14:13 +0100 From: neuwirth Subject: visorc problem To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk X-Mailer: Z-Mail Pro 6.2, NetManage Inc. [ZM62_16E] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i fear my desparate call for help did not make it to the list first time. perhaps somebody can help me getting visorc 1.75 to work on my win95 machine. i installed visorc 1.7 and the upgrade to 1.75. and i am unable to prduce sound. i tried the versions in csound_con.zip csound95.zip csound_win.zip and i don't manage. is there any magic parameter i don't know for configuring? csound is started, but i always get a message no sound file was made starting csound manually, however, produces sound files. please help me erich neuwirth -- Erich Neuwirth Computer Supported Didactics Working Group, Univ. Vienna Visit our SunSITE at http://sunsite.univie.ac.at Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12746; 23 Sep 98 4:11 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa27163; 23 Sep 98 4:11 BST Received: (qmail 13003 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 03:11:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 03:11:27 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (EAA27061); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:06:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:06:24 +0100 Received: from out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239] by hermes via ESMTP (EAA07208); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:06:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-159-71.dc.us.ibm.net [32.100.159.71]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA51898; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:06:25 GMT Message-ID: <36086603.E0A21041@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:07:47 -0400 From: Job van Zuijlen Reply-To: zuijlen@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk CC: neuwirth Subject: Re: visorc problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I remember I had a similar problem initially. What you may want to check is first of all what the command line looks like by selecting Compile -> View Command Line, and using that command line (which are actually the parameters given to Csound) to run Csound. This will give you a chance to see any error messages that might be generated. In my case the problem was the use of the Windows-specific parameter -e, which for some reason is not recognized in the standard Csound Windows executables. For that matter, none of the Windows-specific parameters seem to be recognized. Anyway, you can set the presence or absence of parameters like -e in the Global -> Options menu of Visorc. And I can attest, Visorc does create sound files on Windows 95. Hope this helps. Job van Zuijlen neuwirth wrote: > > i fear my desparate call for help did not make it to the list first time. > > perhaps somebody can help me getting visorc 1.75 to work on my win95 > machine. > > i installed visorc 1.7 and the upgrade to 1.75. > and i am unable to prduce sound. > > i tried the versions in > csound_con.zip > csound95.zip > csound_win.zip > > and i don't manage. > > is there any magic parameter i don't know for configuring? > csound is started, but i always get a message > > no sound file was made > > starting csound manually, however, produces sound files. > > please help me > > erich neuwirth > > -- > Erich Neuwirth > Computer Supported Didactics Working Group, Univ. Vienna > Visit our SunSITE at http://sunsite.univie.ac.at Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa12797; 23 Sep 98 4:56 BST Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa00767; 23 Sep 98 4:56 BST Received: (qmail 14171 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 03:56:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by pat.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 03:56:25 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (EAA17673); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:52:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:52:11 +0100 Received: from server8.wans.net [208.205.34.15] by hermes via ESMTP (EAA27756); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:52:09 +0100 (BST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server8.wans.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19282 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:52:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from usm-0049-133.wans.net(209.223.49.133), claiming to be "gateway" via SMTP by server8.wans.net, id smtpdAAAa004hG; Tue Sep 22 22:52:10 1998 From: bdewitt To: Csound Subject: Intro Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:52:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bde6a5$896a9da0$8531dfd1@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a povray user (Win 98 on a PII 400) who heard that there was a synthesizer program that "was to music what povray is to graphics" so I am trying it. I'm just starting to read the manual so I don't even have any intelligent questions yet but I wanted to introduce myself. Well, maybe one question... is there something for Windows (besides csounder) that will send the command line but allows one to adjust the arguments directly? I'm thinking just some check boxes and a few text fields with a couple of file selection windows. I almost started to make one myself, but I have so much to do already... all comments welcome... Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13013; 23 Sep 98 6:33 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa08668; 23 Sep 98 6:33 BST Received: (qmail 12263 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 05:33:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 05:33:44 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (GAA07837); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:29:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:28:51 +0100 Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69] by hermes via SMTP (GAA21782); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:28:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22818 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 05:28:54 -0000 Received: from userl452.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (193.149.75.11) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 05:28:54 -0000 Message-ID: <36088752.993D7192@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:29:54 +0100 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neuwirth CC: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: visorc problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've experienced much the same problem. I got in touch with the author but unfortunately he couldn't figure it out either! I just gave up which is a pity since it LOOKS pretty good. Have you tried "Virtual Waves"? It isn't Csound but does lots of high quality signal generation and processing with an elegant front end. Type "Synoptic" in your search engine. Cheers Gareth Whittock neuwirth wrote: > > i fear my desparate call for help did not make it to the list first time. > > perhaps somebody can help me getting visorc 1.75 to work on my win95 > machine. > > i installed visorc 1.7 and the upgrade to 1.75. > and i am unable to prduce sound. > > i tried the versions in > csound_con.zip > csound95.zip > csound_win.zip > > and i don't manage. > > is there any magic parameter i don't know for configuring? > csound is started, but i always get a message > > no sound file was made > > starting csound manually, however, produces sound files. > > please help me > > erich neuwirth > > -- > Erich Neuwirth > Computer Supported Didactics Working Group, Univ. Vienna > Visit our SunSITE at http://sunsite.univie.ac.at Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13229; 23 Sep 98 8:17 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa17069; 23 Sep 98 8:17 BST Received: (qmail 15806 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 07:17:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 07:17:13 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (IAA00280); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:13:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:13:03 +0100 Received: from agora.stm.it [195.62.32.1] by hermes via ESMTP (IAA11220); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:13:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from galileo (ppp02-15.dial-access.stm.it [195.62.37.79]) by agora.stm.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27694; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:12:52 +0200 (ITADST) Message-ID: <36097737.9C5B9280@agora.stm.it> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:33:27 +0200 From: Gabriel Maldonado X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bdewitt CC: Csound Subject: Re: Intro X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000501bde6a5$896a9da0$8531dfd1@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes, there is WCshell by Riccardo Bianchini. I don't remember the URL but you can ask to the author: mailto:rb@fabaris.it Happy downloading gabriel bdewitt wrote: > Hi, > I am a povray user (Win 98 on a PII 400) who heard that there > was a > synthesizer program that "was to music what povray is to graphics" so > I am > trying it. > I'm just starting to read the manual so I don't even have any > intelligent > questions yet but I wanted to introduce myself. > Well, maybe one question... is there something for Windows > (besides > csounder) that will send the command line but allows one to adjust the > > arguments directly? > I'm thinking just some check boxes and a few text fields with > a couple of > file selection windows. I almost started to make one myself, but I > have so > much to do already... > > all comments welcome... -- Gabriel Maldonado http://www.agora.stm.it/G.Maldonado/home2.htm Received: from stork.maths.bath.ac.uk by omphalos.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa13397; 23 Sep 98 9:36 BST Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk by stork.maths.Bath.AC.UK id aa11245; 23 Sep 98 9:36 BST Received: (qmail 19332 invoked from network); 23 Sep 1998 08:36:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.ex.ac.uk (HELO exeter.ac.uk) (144.173.6.14) by mercury.bath.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Sep 1998 08:36:46 -0000 Received: from noether [144.173.8.10] by hermes via SMTP (JAA17340); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:33:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from exeter.ac.uk by maths.ex.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:33:01 +0100 Received: from root@maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3] by hermes via ESMTP (JAA14802); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:33:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from d1o211.telia.com (root@d1o211.telia.com [195.204.228.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10026; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:32:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rogernt (t6o211p54.telia.com [195.204.229.114]) by d1o211.telia.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA25830; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:32:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <005b01bde6cc$6d8261a0$0300a8c0@apas.no> From: roger klaveness To: csound , bdewitt Subject: Re: Intro Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:30:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-csound-outgoing@maths.ex.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You may try my csound editor: http://home.c2i.net/roklaven/csound/ Roger Klaveness